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« on: November 06, 2010, 03:15:16 PM »
Who were the most important saints after the 6th century... not named Gregory Palamas, Mark of Ephesus, Symeon the New Theologian, Photius the Great, Isaac the Syrian, John of Damascus, or Maximos the Confessor? I'm not looking for quantity over quality, but it'd be nice to have quantity in addition to quality. In other words, besides the above exceptions, name as many important saints since the 6th century as you can think of. Please?  :)

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Re: Who Were the Most Important Saints After the 6th Century...
« Reply #1 on: November 06, 2010, 03:27:01 PM »
St. Serge of Radonezh, St. Seraph of Sarov, St. John of Kronstadt, St. Cyrill and St. Methodius, St. Vladimir.
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Re: Who Were the Most Important Saints After the 6th Century...
« Reply #2 on: November 06, 2010, 03:47:17 PM »
What does "important" mean to you?

Along with St. John of Damascus, many of our most important hymnographers lived during the iconoclast controversies:  Sts. Theophanos and Theodore the Branded, St. Kassiani the Nun, St. Joseph the Hymnographer (my patron), St. Cosmas the poet. All of these saints figure prominently in our liturgical life.
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Re: Who Were the Most Important Saints After the 6th Century...
« Reply #3 on: November 06, 2010, 03:49:49 PM »
I suppose I was thinking of "important" as just having some kind of lasting influence or impact on the Church, in whatever way. So, whether they were an Emperor or a desert dweller, a bishop-theologian or a simple (saintly) lay person, as long as they had an influence I suppose I would consider them "important".
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Re: Who Were the Most Important Saints After the 6th Century...
« Reply #4 on: November 06, 2010, 03:57:12 PM »
St.Nicetas the Confessor, St.Symeon of Thessolonika, St.Nicholas Cabasilas, and St.Joseph Volotsky.
I admit this is purely subjective but I think these four saints have monumental importance for the Orthodox Faith.

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Re: Who Were the Most Important Saints After the 6th Century...
« Reply #5 on: November 06, 2010, 08:32:33 PM »
Who were the most important saints after the 6th century... not named Gregory Palamas, Mark of Ephesus, Symeon the New Theologian, Photius the Great, Isaac the Syrian, John of Damascus, or Maximos the Confessor? I'm not looking for quantity over quality, but it'd be nice to have quantity in addition to quality. In other words, besides the above exceptions, name as many important saints since the 6th century as you can think of. Please?  :)

This would be just one Churches list, but just before the Canons are read at Matins, the ROCOR lists the major Saints of the Russian Church.  If you have a copy of the English version of "The All-Night Vigil for Choir and Laity", you will find the list starting on Page 114 and ending on 116.
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Re: Who Were the Most Important Saints After the 6th Century...
« Reply #6 on: November 06, 2010, 08:38:04 PM »
St.Nicetas the Confessor, St.Symeon of Thessolonika, St.Nicholas Cabasilas, and St.Joseph Volotsky.
I admit this is purely subjective but I think these four saints have monumental importance for the Orthodox Faith.

Never heard of them, lol.
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Re: Who Were the Most Important Saints After the 6th Century...
« Reply #7 on: November 06, 2010, 08:38:25 PM »
St. John the Russian, 1690-1730.  
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Re: Who Were the Most Important Saints After the 6th Century...
« Reply #8 on: November 07, 2010, 06:06:56 PM »
St.Nicetas the Confessor, St.Symeon of Thessolonika, St.Nicholas Cabasilas, and St.Joseph Volotsky.
I admit this is purely subjective but I think these four saints have monumental importance for the Orthodox Faith.

Never heard of them, lol.
That was part of the idea when I posted them but I have to admit I am surprised that someone as knowledgable of the Orthodox Faith does not know any of these saints!?
St.Nicetas the Confessor is not that well known but his life and example should be studied and emulated today.
St.Symeon of Thessalonika and St.Nicholas Cabasilas wrote excellent works on the Liturgy, Divine Services and Life in Christ.
St.Joseph Volotsky and his influence should be known to anyone who has studied the History of the Church in Russia.
I would like to add St.Maxim the Greek, St. Metropolitan Phillip of Moscow (he denounced Ivan Grozny and for this he was killed) Saints and Patriarches Job and Hermogen of Moscow, and St.Stephen of Perm. As with St.Joseph Volotsky all these men should be known to students of Russian Ecclesiastical History.

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Re: Who Were the Most Important Saints After the 6th Century...
« Reply #9 on: November 07, 2010, 06:30:09 PM »
Since I live in Western Europe I might be a little biased but I'd say those who spread the Faith to Europe. The World could be vastly different if Western Europe had remained Pagan. Sts. Patrick, Columba, Martin, Boniface, Ansgar, Sigfrid, Olaf...

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Re: Who Were the Most Important Saints After the 6th Century...
« Reply #10 on: November 07, 2010, 06:42:09 PM »
St. Theophan the Recluse
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Re: Who Were the Most Important Saints After the 6th Century...
« Reply #11 on: November 07, 2010, 06:58:15 PM »
Since I live in Western Europe I might be a little biased but I'd say those who spread the Faith to Europe. The World could be vastly different if Western Europe had remained Pagan. Sts. Patrick, Columba, Martin, Boniface, Ansgar, Sigfrid, Olaf...



Aren't they to old for the OP?
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Re: Who Were the Most Important Saints After the 6th Century...
« Reply #12 on: November 07, 2010, 07:31:53 PM »
Since I live in Western Europe I might be a little biased but I'd say those who spread the Faith to Europe. The World could be vastly different if Western Europe had remained Pagan. Sts. Patrick, Columba, Martin, Boniface, Ansgar, Sigfrid, Olaf...



Aren't they to old for the OP?

Ss. Boniface, Sigfrid and Olaf are all from the early (as in pre-schism) 11th century.  St. Ansgar is from the 9th.
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Re: Who Were the Most Important Saints After the 6th Century...
« Reply #13 on: November 07, 2010, 08:37:22 PM »
St. Nectarios of Aegina was glorified in 1961. His feast day is on Nov. 9-- this week.   :)
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Re: Who Were the Most Important Saints After the 6th Century...
« Reply #14 on: November 07, 2010, 09:02:43 PM »
Don't forget St. Herman of Alaska...he brought Orthodoxy to N. America!

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Re: Who Were the Most Important Saints After the 6th Century...
« Reply #15 on: November 07, 2010, 11:37:37 PM »
Don't forget St. Herman of Alaska...he brought Orthodoxy to N. America!


Yes! And St. Innocent of Alaska.  :)

Also: St. Raphael of Brooklyn.

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Re: Who Were the Most Important Saints After the 6th Century...
« Reply #16 on: November 08, 2010, 12:03:00 AM »
To the OP: St John of San Francisco.  He demonstrates how to live the martyric life, while living in peace.  His intercessions are powerful.  His example is above reproof.  He is a genuine ascetic.  He is non-partisan in Church administration.  He is also my favorite ethnarch, for leading Russians through China, the Phillipines, and finally to the USA.

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Re: Who Were the Most Important Saints After the 6th Century...
« Reply #17 on: January 31, 2013, 06:24:16 AM »
Resurrecting the thread to add a few names from the Greek tradition:

St Irene Chrysovalantou
St Philothea of Athens
St Cosmas of Aetolia
New Martyr George of Ioannina
Hieromartyrs Gregory V, Patriarch of Constantinople and Metropolitan Chrysostomos of Smyrna

You may not have even heard of the most recent ones, but their lives have shaped Orthodoxy in Greece.
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Re: Who Were the Most Important Saints After the 6th Century...
« Reply #18 on: January 31, 2013, 06:30:11 AM »
Resurrecting the thread to add a few names from the Greek tradition:

St Irene Chrysovalantou
St Philothea of Athens
St Cosmas of Aetolia
New Martyr George of Ioannina
Hieromartyrs Gregory V, Patriarch of Constantinople and Metropolitan Chrysostomos of Smyrna

You may not have even heard of the most recent ones, but their lives have shaped Orthodoxy in Greece.

I've not heard of all but two (and I only heard about them they exist and nothing more).
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Re: Who Were the Most Important Saints After the 6th Century...
« Reply #19 on: January 31, 2013, 06:43:19 AM »
I'm surprised nobody mentioned St. Paisius Velichkovsky (Sf. Paisie de la Neamţ). Do I get skewed idea of his importance because I'm in the Romanian church? I always got the impression he prominent elsewhere also, especially in the Slavic churches.

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Re: Who Were the Most Important Saints After the 6th Century...
« Reply #20 on: February 02, 2013, 08:55:42 AM »
I'm surprised nobody mentioned St. Paisius Velichkovsky (Sf. Paisie de la Neamţ). Do I get skewed idea of his importance because I'm in the Romanian church? I always got the impression he prominent elsewhere also, especially in the Slavic churches.

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I don't know that that impression is incorrect. In fact, I was reading this the other day and it relies heavily on him.
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Re: Who Were the Most Important Saints After the 6th Century...
« Reply #21 on: February 02, 2013, 11:12:29 AM »
Saints in the Bulgarian Church:
St. Boris-Michael, Equal-to-the-Apostles, prince and baptizer of Bulgaria

St. John, Abbot of Rila in Bulgaria  

St. John Koukouzelis the Hymnographer of the Great Lavra on Mount Athos

Holy Equal-to-the-Apostles Cyril, Enlightener of the Slavs

Saint Clement of Ochrid, Enlightener of the Bulgarians

Saint Methodius, Equal-to-the-Apostles, Archbishop of Moravia, and Enlightener of the Slavs

Saint Nahum of Ochrid, Enlightener of the Bulgarians, disciple of Ss. Cyril and Methodius, Equal-to-the-Apostles and Wonder-worker

Venerable Paisius of Hilandar, Bulgaria
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« Reply #22 on: February 02, 2013, 11:35:07 AM »
American Orthodox Saints
St. Alexander Hotovitzky, New Hieromartyr of Russian and Missionary to America
 
St. Alexis of Wilkes-Barre

New Martyr Archpriest Vasily Martysz 

St. Brendan the Navigator

St. Herman of Alaska, Wonderworker of All America

St. Innocent of Alaska, Equal-to-the-Apostles and Enlightener of North Americalaska

St. Jacob Netsvetov, Enlightener of the Peoples of Alaska

St. John Kochurov, Missionary to America and First Hieromartyr
under the Bolshevik Yoke

St. John Maximovitch, the Wonderworker of Archbishop of Shanghai and San Francisco

St. Juvenaly of Alaska, Protomartyr of America

St. Nikolai Velimirovic (rector of St. Tikhon's Seminary)

St. Peter the Aleut, protomartyr of America

St. Raphael of Brooklyn (founder of the Antiochian Archdiocese)

St. Seraphim (Samuilovich) of Uglich (missionary in Alaska and hieromartyr under the Soviets)

St. Tikhon of Moscow and Enlightener of North America

St. Varnava (Nastic), the New Confessor (born in Gary, Indiana)
 
St. Anatole (Kamensky) of Irkutsk, New Hieromartyr and Archbishop of Irkutsk

Unglorified (I bolded the ones that I feel strongly about):

Met. Philaret (Voznesensky) of New York
Abp. Arseny (Chagovtsov) of Winnipeg
Bp. Gerasimos (Papadopoulos) of Abydos
Br. José Muñoz-Cortes
Hieromonk Seraphim Rose
Matushka Olga Michael of Alaska

Ivan Smirennikov the Aleut elder
Abp. Ioasaph (Skorodumoff), Enlightener of Canada
Archimandrite Sebastian Dabovich, Serbian Apostle to America
Schemamonk Sergius Yanovsky, disciple of St. Herman of Alaska
Bp. Ioasaph (Bolotov), Enlightener of Alaska
New Hieromartyr Fr. John (Karastamatis) of Santa Cruz

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Re: Who Were the Most Important Saints After the 6th Century...
« Reply #23 on: February 02, 2013, 02:04:04 PM »
Sts. Olav, Ansgar and Sigfrid. Edit: lol, accidental second post in the same thread with identical list of saints.
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Re: Who Were the Most Important Saints After the 6th Century...
« Reply #24 on: February 02, 2013, 02:34:11 PM »
St. Raphael of Brooklyn (founder of the Antiochian Archdiocese)

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Re: Who Were the Most Important Saints After the 6th Century...
« Reply #25 on: February 02, 2013, 06:13:26 PM »
Who were the most important saints after the 6th century... not named Gregory Palamas, Mark of Ephesus, Symeon the New Theologian, Photius the Great, Isaac the Syrian, John of Damascus, or Maximos the Confessor? I'm not looking for quantity over quality, but it'd be nice to have quantity in addition to quality. In other words, besides the above exceptions, name as many important saints since the 6th century as you can think of. Please?  :)

Sts. Sophronius of Jerusalem, John Moschos, Gregory the Great, the first several Archbishops of Canterbury, the many Celtic monastic missionaries, St. Ildephonsus of Toledo, the Seville brothers--Sts. Isidore and Leander, Pope St. Martin, Tsar St. Boris-Michael, St. Vladimir of Kiev.
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Re: Who Were the Most Important Saints After the 6th Century...
« Reply #26 on: February 02, 2013, 06:17:14 PM »
American Orthodox Saints
 
St. Anatole (Kamensky) of Irkutsk, New Hieromartyr and Archbishop of Irkutsk

Do you have corroboration for this? I looked in the past and couldn't find much to go by.
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Re: Who Were the Most Important Saints After the 6th Century...
« Reply #27 on: February 02, 2013, 09:30:20 PM »
St. Herman of Alaska for bringing Orthodoxy to America, St. Tikhon for preserving Orthodoxy in America from breaking off into several non-canonical, shismatic groups, St. Alexander Nevsky for protecting us from becoming Latins?