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Re: Roman Catholic Churches
« Reply #90 on: November 04, 2010, 04:25:42 PM »
Isa, I think that every church in Spain has gold from the New World. The fact that they used gold from the New World is not a shocking fact. I do not think that Europe has or had much gold, though. Although I hear Romania has significant gold mines.
He ignorance is showing. This church is Italian. The Spanish Crown was the one that discovered America. I hope the moderator sees his posts. We just can't be at peace anywhere us Catholics have something to post without having him attacking anything that resembles Roman Catholic. I was under the assumption that this thread is for posting pics and not for polemics. I sincerely hope the moderator helps us keep that way, and I am aware he has already given a warning.


That's funny, because it's your prejudice against Ialmisry that is showing.  He asked a rather neutral question based on information I myself have heard elsewhere.  Instead of being the clairvoyant that you are purporting to be and telling us ialmisry's intentions, answering his question would have sufficed instead of being a hypocrite and pointing out the supposed speck in his eye when you have a plank in yours: you are engaging in commentary that stands on the edge of violating my diktat.

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So Santa Maria in Trastevere is the church?  I remember a guide pointing that out on one of the churches, but can't remember which (it is like sorting coals in Newcastle after a while).

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Re: Roman Catholic Churches
« Reply #91 on: November 04, 2010, 04:32:31 PM »
Isa, I think that every church in Spain has gold from the New World. The fact that they used gold from the New World is not a shocking fact. I do not think that Europe has or had much gold, though. Although I hear Romania has significant gold mines.
He ignorance is showing. This church is Italian. The Spanish Crown was the one that discovered America. I hope the moderator sees his posts. We just can't be at peace anywhere us Catholics have something to post without having him attacking anything that resembles Roman Catholic. I was under the assumption that this thread is for posting pics and not for polemics. I sincerely hope the moderator helps us keep that way, and I am aware he has already given a warning.


That's funny, because it's your prejudice against Ialmisry that is showing.  He asked a rather neutral question based on information I myself have heard elsewhere.  Instead of being the clairvoyant that you are purporting to be and telling us ialmisry's intentions, answering his question would have sufficed instead of being a hypocrite and pointing out the supposed speck in his eye when you have a plank in yours: you are engaging in commentary that stands on the edge of violating my diktat.

In short, KNOCK. IT. OFF.  IF YOU HAVE A PROBLEM, USE THE REPORT TO MODERATOR FUNCTION.

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So Santa Maria in Trastevere is the church?  I remember a guide pointing that out on one of the churches, but can't remember which (it is like sorting coals in Newcastle after a while).

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I'm not sure, either, but it sounds familiar.  We both may, of course, be totally wrong.  Like you said, all the information about all the various churches in Rome run together after a while. 

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Re: Roman Catholic Churches
« Reply #92 on: November 04, 2010, 04:42:39 PM »
Very well then, I was very eager to post more pics but will cease doing so for fear of causing more provocations, I will just leave this thread.
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Re: Roman Catholic Churches
« Reply #93 on: November 04, 2010, 05:11:57 PM »
Very well then, I was very eager to post more pics but will cease doing so for fear of causing more provocations, I will just leave this thread.

What if I provoke you anyways.  ;D


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Re: Roman Catholic Churches
« Reply #94 on: November 04, 2010, 09:55:22 PM »
Very well then, I was very eager to post more pics but will cease doing so for fear of causing more provocations, I will just leave this thread.

What if I provoke you anyways.  ;D


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Santa Maria del Popolo (Rome, Italy)





San Luigi dei Francesi (Rome, Italy)



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Basilica di Sant'Eustorgio (Milan, Italy)

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Orvieto Cathedral (Orvieto, Italy)


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Santa Cecilia in Trastevere (Rome, Italy)
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Re: Roman Catholic Churches
« Reply #95 on: November 04, 2010, 10:37:53 PM »
Basilica di San Clemente (Rome, Italy)




San Pietro in Vincoli (Rome, Italy)




Chiesa del Gesù (Rome, Italy)




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« Reply #96 on: November 04, 2010, 10:59:03 PM »
This is where I used to attend Latin Mass, in Mission Hills, inside of Los Angeles. San Fernando Rey de España ( St. Ferdinand, King of Spain). One of the many missions of Father Junipero Serra in California. Built in 1797.
















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Re: Roman Catholic Churches
« Reply #97 on: November 04, 2010, 11:56:45 PM »
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Re: Roman Catholic Churches
« Reply #98 on: November 05, 2010, 01:08:56 AM »
These pictures are all quite beautiful, but is it true that all of these magnificent Catholic Churches were built before Vatican II?
What can be said about some of the monstrosities, er, excuse me I meant to say Catholic Churches built after Vatican II?

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« Reply #99 on: November 05, 2010, 02:02:27 AM »
Some of the churches I have been to in the D.C. area.

The National Shrine of the Immaculate Conception:



Franciscan Monastery




The Chapel at Mount Saint Mary's (I remember attending the "Mount 2000...and Beyond" event held at the seminary and hosted by the Franciscan Friars of the Renewal and waking up early one morning and walking from the gym (where we slept) to this chapel with a seminarian to pray the rosary and talk a little bit about our faith)



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Re: Roman Catholic Churches
« Reply #100 on: November 05, 2010, 02:32:22 AM »
This thread is replete with extraordinary images of Catholic temples and like any other such thread (were there to be parallel ones filled with photographs of Eastern or Oriental Orthodox or Eastern Catholic temples), the incredible beauty, majesty, and workmanship portrayed awes the viewer.

There is, however, a concern that should be noted. As I recently pointed out on my home forum, when photos are posted using the image function ([img:]), instead of merely linking to the URL of the photo, as was done here, the images draw on the bandwidth of the site from which they originate - effectively 'stealing' that site's bandwidth. It's considered bad form on the net and is also the reason that some such pics disappear w/in a day or so, to be replaced by red 'x's in a small box. (Because, most photo-based sites, most commercial sites, and other sites that are on top of things, use software that breaks the bandwidth connection once it is discovered - and most such perform periodic - as often as weekly, in some cases - scans to detect these intrusive acts).

A sufficient draw on the bandwidth of a site can effectively cause it to shut down, can result in it being shut down by the domain owner for exceeding the bandwidth allocated to it for a given period, or can result in monetary charges being levied against it by the domain owner for exceeding its allowed bandwidth usage in a given period (usually a calendar month). These are serious issues, particularly for small sites operating on shoestring budgets.

Additionally, posting image links versus URL links raises copyright issues for the site to which the images are posted.

I realize that words, when accompanied by an image available for immediate, simultaneous, viewing trump even Confucious' famous saying regarding the value of pictures over words ... but, there is a need to be a good internet neighbor (and for forums to protect themselves legally)


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« Reply #101 on: November 05, 2010, 02:51:27 AM »
There is, however, a concern that should be noted.



Howe realistic is this concern?

Take the last photograph above.  It is 107kb.

Let's assume the site which it is on has a provider which allows a download capacity of 20Gb monthly (and that is really a very small download amount.)

The photo would need to be downloaded 186,915 times in a month before it exceeds the 20Gb.

(Have I done my sums right?)

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Re: Roman Catholic Churches
« Reply #102 on: November 05, 2010, 03:19:14 AM »
Bless, Father,

It isn't so much the download at issue; rather, it's the fact that the image continues to draw on the image's home site bandwidth for the entire period that it is hosted at the site to which it was downloaded.

Here's an explanation that, altho created to sell a product, explains the issue rather well. It includes reference to something about which I failed to warn - the switch response, in which a site employs a means of replacing the hotlinked image w/ another - sometimes an image that points out the bandwidth theft, sometimes a porn or more innocuous, but likewise offensive, image.

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Re: Roman Catholic Churches
« Reply #103 on: November 05, 2010, 11:17:43 AM »
I was going to say that I have been on other forums that have picture threads and it was never an issue on there, but then I remembered that most of the photos in those threads were posted from either Image Shack or Photobucket, so it wasn't a problem in those cases. Maybe people could copy these images to Photobucket before uploading them? Of course that wouldn't deal with the copyright issue, but in my opinion if the author was concerned about copyrights he would make sure to have his pictures locked to where they cannot be copied and pasted (which can be done).

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Re: Roman Catholic Churches
« Reply #104 on: November 05, 2010, 11:21:41 AM »
Some of the churches I have been to in the D.C. area.

The National Shrine of the Immaculate Conception:



I used to serve Mass here about a decade ago and the sanctuary has never looked this pretty.  Methinks the photographer played with the light both before and after taking the picture. ;)

It's usually a dull gray color all the time.
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« Reply #105 on: November 05, 2010, 11:27:09 AM »
I used to serve Mass here about a decade ago and the sanctuary has never looked this pretty.  Methinks the photographer played with the light both before and after taking the picture. ;)

It's usually a dull gray color all the time.
Perhaps Photoshop even?

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« Reply #106 on: November 05, 2010, 11:28:41 AM »
It appears to be HDR to me.

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« Reply #107 on: November 05, 2010, 12:03:18 PM »
It appears to be HDR to me.

Yes, it's definitely HDR.  I've also been there and it didn't look like that ;)

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« Reply #108 on: November 05, 2010, 03:18:27 PM »
This is where I went for the high Latin Requiem Mass last Tuesday.



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« Reply #109 on: November 05, 2010, 04:30:24 PM »
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St. Pancras Church in Oberkirch:



Monastery in Mainz:



St. John and Paul Church in Katowice:



St. Christopher Church in Emmerich:



Cathedral in Brasilia:



Liverpool Metropolitain Cathedral:
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« Reply #110 on: November 05, 2010, 04:35:01 PM »
St. John and Paul Church in Katowice:


They have a KFC in their Church? Sweet!
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« Reply #111 on: November 05, 2010, 04:37:40 PM »
Yeah, any idea what that's all about?
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« Reply #112 on: November 05, 2010, 04:42:50 PM »
St. John and Paul Church in Katowice:


They have a KFC in their Church? Sweet!

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« Reply #113 on: November 05, 2010, 05:12:50 PM »
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Is it some kind of Stalinist prison?

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« Reply #114 on: November 05, 2010, 05:18:50 PM »
Yeah, any idea what that's all about?

They were organising some kind of Christmass Carrol concert in there and KFC was one of the sponsors, so they rolled up it's banner.
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« Reply #115 on: November 05, 2010, 05:21:22 PM »
Yeah, any idea what that's all about?

They were organising some kind of Christmass Carrol concert in there and KFC was one of the sponsors, so they rolled up it's banner.

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« Reply #116 on: November 05, 2010, 05:30:40 PM »
Sainte Marie de la Tourette Monastery



St. Pancras Church in Oberkirch:



Monastery in Mainz:



St. John and Paul Church in Katowice:



St. Christopher Church in Emmerich:



Cathedral in Brasilia:



Liverpool Metropolitain Cathedral:

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« Reply #117 on: November 05, 2010, 05:36:43 PM »
Do you like these images?

"Like" is such a... strong... word.  ;)

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« Reply #118 on: November 05, 2010, 05:50:42 PM »
Do you like these images?

I can't find a reason why would anyone like these "churches". Finnish Lutherans have had same kind of weird tendency to build just plain ugly "churches" in recent decades. Nobody even among Lutherans themselves seems to like them but they are still built. ???
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« Reply #119 on: November 05, 2010, 06:48:46 PM »
Do you like these images?

I can't find a reason why would anyone like these "churches". Finnish Lutherans have had same kind of weird tendency to build just plain ugly "churches" in recent decades. Nobody even among Lutherans themselves seems to like them but they are still built. ???


Let's be careful fellow Orthodox...The West doesn't have a monopoly on modern 'art' church design. There are plenty of 'ugly' modernistic Orthodox Churches built in the US in the late 20th century! Let's NOT start a photo thread of those as beauty is in the eye of the beholder and we probably would offend members of  the same!

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« Reply #120 on: November 05, 2010, 07:59:47 PM »
Collegiata di Castiglione Olona, Italy




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« Reply #121 on: November 05, 2010, 08:04:30 PM »
Santa Caterina ( St. Catherine in Palermo, Italy)



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« Reply #122 on: November 05, 2010, 08:16:07 PM »
^ Love the chairs!
Aren't they great? :)

You can tell that some of these churches, at one point in time, had no pews.
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« Reply #123 on: November 05, 2010, 08:23:08 PM »
Sant' Agostino ( St. Augustine in rome, Italy)



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« Reply #124 on: November 05, 2010, 08:31:34 PM »
Duomo di Sant'Emidio- Cathederal of ST. Emidio (Ascoli Piceno, Italy)




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« Reply #125 on: November 05, 2010, 08:39:51 PM »
Please Show Us Some Pictures of Our Eastern Orthodox Religious Items and Holy orthodox Relics  Looted By The Crusaders, that are on display in your Catholic Churches...... This should be interesting... ;D
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« Reply #126 on: November 05, 2010, 08:51:18 PM »
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« Reply #127 on: November 05, 2010, 08:56:53 PM »
Santa Maria della Vittoria (St. Mary of Victory, Rome, Italy)





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« Reply #128 on: November 05, 2010, 09:00:29 PM »
They are all so beautiful. How do you find them all?

Tell you the truth. I believe the iconoclasm that is current in the Catholic Churches should be intentionally erased and replaced by numerous beautiful paintings/icons like these.  Those paintings can only help to teach the Word to the barely catechized, not to mention present a fuller worship for the faithful.

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« Reply #129 on: November 05, 2010, 09:20:13 PM »
They are all so beautiful. How do you find them all?

Tell you the truth. I believe the iconoclasm that is current in the Catholic Churches should be intentionally erased and replaced by numerous beautiful paintings/icons like these.  Those paintings can only help to teach the Word to the barely catechized, not to mention present a fuller worship for the faithful.
I am in agreement with you.
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« Reply #130 on: November 05, 2010, 10:03:59 PM »
San Bernardino (L'Aquila, Italy)



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« Reply #131 on: November 05, 2010, 10:17:40 PM »
Cathedral of Mexico City- the largest and oldest Cathedral in the Americas.



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Re: Roman Catholic Churches
« Reply #132 on: November 06, 2010, 07:39:28 AM »
Do you like these images?

No. Why should I?

Let's be careful fellow Orthodox...The West doesn't have a monopoly on modern 'art' church design. There are plenty of 'ugly' modernistic Orthodox Churches built in the US in the late 20th century! Let's NOT start a photo thread of those as beauty is in the eye of the beholder and we probably would offend members of  the same!

http://www.orthodoxchristianity.net/forum/index.php/topic,24233.0.html

I have already did. It is closed now because of the reason you mentioned.
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Re: Roman Catholic Churches
« Reply #133 on: November 06, 2010, 08:21:21 AM »
Do you like these images?

I can't find a reason why would anyone like these "churches". Finnish Lutherans have had same kind of weird tendency to build just plain ugly "churches" in recent decades. Nobody even among Lutherans themselves seems to like them but they are still built. ???


Let's be careful fellow Orthodox...The West doesn't have a monopoly on modern 'art' church design.

Of course not. I'm not being triumphalistic since I could call these modern churches as "churches" regardless of denomination. Even if the "church" in case happened to be EO. However I wouldn't do that if I thought that it offends someone. And every Catholic in here seems to be a sort of conservative so I think that they won't be offended even though I don't like their modern churches since they either doesn't seem to like them. And same applies to Finnish Lutherans. Even themselves doesn't seem to like them.
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Re: Roman Catholic Churches
« Reply #134 on: November 06, 2010, 11:35:17 AM »
They are all so beautiful. How do you find them all?

Tell you the truth. I believe the iconoclasm that is current in the Catholic Churches should be intentionally erased and replaced by numerous beautiful paintings/icons like these.  Those paintings can only help to teach the Word to the barely catechized, not to mention present a fuller worship for the faithful.
I am in agreement with you.

I think that, to some extent,this is happening. I was at our local Catholic hospital this week visiting a family member and I came across a number of icons of post-schism Catholic Saints in the traditional Eastern fashion. There was a particularly beautiful icon of St. Vincent de Paul, the patron of the order who run the hospital.  To some of our fellow posters in particular,I can not say enough about the quality of care and compassionate assistance that this facility has rendered to my family over the the years and our community in general. There is most definitely a 'charism' present in the works at this hospital and of the lay and religious believers who work there.