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« Reply #46 on: November 03, 2010, 06:43:48 PM »
Here are some pics of the church at St. Vincent College in Latrobe PA (dedicated in 1905, became a basilica in 1955)...





Yuck you can sure tell the Vatican II iconoclasts had their way with this place. Pre 1969 or so there would have been a beautiful high altar in the sanctuary there where now stands only a table.

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« Reply #47 on: November 03, 2010, 06:56:33 PM »
Looking at this thread is helping me to realize that with the beauty of your temples, there is still hope that they might invoke a return to proper liturgy in some areas where there is abuse.

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« Reply #48 on: November 03, 2010, 06:57:49 PM »
Looking at this thread is helping me to realize that with the beauty of your temples, there is still hope that they might invoke a return to proper liturgy in some areas where there is abuse.
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« Reply #49 on: November 03, 2010, 07:22:12 PM »
Cathederal of Monreale, Sicily, Italy









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« Reply #50 on: November 03, 2010, 07:27:36 PM »
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Re: Roman Catholic Churches
« Reply #51 on: November 03, 2010, 08:31:16 PM »
Surely the Cathederal of Monreale, Sicily, Italy, along with others in Ravenna and elsewhere in that region, give to us some reflection of the transcendent glory that was Hagia Sophia before the conquest.

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Re: Roman Catholic Churches
« Reply #52 on: November 03, 2010, 08:34:13 PM »
Would it be safe to say that Orthodox churches today tend to be smaller, even cathedrals?

When I visited Hagia Sophia, I got the feeling that the vastness of the architecture would have dwarfed the action around the altar. I get the same feeling looking at the grander RC cathedrals- as awesome and beautiful as they are, I wonder if there should be more of a sense of intimacy in the proportions. 

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« Reply #53 on: November 03, 2010, 09:06:17 PM »



Here is a church from my hometown, Immaculate Conception in Jacksonville, Fl.
I was there for a wedding two weekends ago. Very beautiful church.

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Re: Roman Catholic Churches
« Reply #55 on: November 03, 2010, 09:26:49 PM »
The former St. Francis de Sales Church in Oakland, CA which was left structurally unsound by the Loma Prieta earthquake and later demolished

...http://www.flickr.com/photos/24557771@N02/5144627792/...

Eww.
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« Reply #56 on: November 03, 2010, 09:28:20 PM »
Basilica di San Marco in Venice, Italy




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« Reply #57 on: November 03, 2010, 09:44:40 PM »
The former St. Francis de Sales Church in Oakland, CA which was left structurally unsound by the Loma Prieta earthquake and later demolished

...http://www.flickr.com/photos/24557771@N02/5144627792/...

Eww.

I realize that's the common reflexive viewpoint on the era.  I happen to like that image very much personally.

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« Reply #58 on: November 03, 2010, 09:47:05 PM »
Basilica di San Marco in Venice, Italy






That is stunning!

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« Reply #59 on: November 03, 2010, 09:50:02 PM »
The former St. Francis de Sales Church in Oakland, CA which was left structurally unsound by the Loma Prieta earthquake and later demolished

...http://www.flickr.com/photos/24557771@N02/5144627792/...

Eww.

Double eww. What a barren Church. I could never worship in a place so barren. A lot of the reason I converted to OC was because of places like that. That and the beautiful liturgy as opposed to the Modern Catholic man centered Mass.

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Re: Roman Catholic Churches
« Reply #60 on: November 03, 2010, 09:50:54 PM »
Looking at this thread is helping me to realize that with the beauty of your temples, there is still hope that they might invoke a return to proper liturgy in some areas where there is abuse.

http://www.newliturgicalmovement.org/

There are those that are trying. I went to a high Latin Requiem Mass for All Souls Day last night. It hasn't all disappeared.

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« Reply #61 on: November 03, 2010, 09:55:03 PM »
Church of Our Saviour, New York

proof that churches built since the 1950s need not be ugly



Yeah but tell that to the modernists. Thats a beautiful Church. Isnt their a show on EWTN that has a Priest teaching in that Church. I am thinking I may have seen it back in my RC days.

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« Reply #62 on: November 03, 2010, 10:00:23 PM »
Cathederal of Monreale, Sicily, Italy











Nice. Why do all these Catholic Cathedrals in Italy look so Byzantine?

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Re: Roman Catholic Churches
« Reply #63 on: November 03, 2010, 10:31:50 PM »
Nice. Why do all these Catholic Cathedrals in Italy look so Byzantine?

Certain parts of modern Italy. There's a great reason for it, and someone with more time should be able to give you the answer in detail.

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Re: Roman Catholic Churches
« Reply #64 on: November 03, 2010, 11:42:47 PM »
cathedral of Las Lajas, Colombia




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« Reply #65 on: November 03, 2010, 11:44:48 PM »
Yeah but tell that to the modernists. Thats a beautiful Church. Isnt their a show on EWTN that has a Priest teaching in that Church. I am thinking I may have seen it back in my RC days.

Yes, the pastor of this church is Fr. George Rutler. He hosts the EWTN program Christ in the City.

Great, great, great priest.

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Re: Roman Catholic Churches
« Reply #66 on: November 04, 2010, 12:13:09 AM »
Sagrada Familia, Barcelona. Pope Benedict is going to consecrate this cathedral next week!



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Cathedral of Notre-Dame-de-Reims





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Cathedral of Orvieto, Italy





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Kings College Chapel, Cambridge, England



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« Reply #67 on: November 04, 2010, 12:18:06 AM »
Duomo, Milano, Italy. This one is ENORMOUS, and it is awesome up close because the facade is covered with thousands of statues, most of them perched precariously on needle-like spires. The interior is wonderful, but I wasn't able to find a photo which could adequately capture it.




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Re: Roman Catholic Churches
« Reply #68 on: November 04, 2010, 12:29:55 AM »
La Sainte-Chapelle, Paris.

Incredible floor-to-ceiling, wall-to-wall, 13th-century stained glass. Was built as a glittering reliquary to house the Crown of Thorns.





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Our Lady of Lichen, Poland. One of world's largest churches. Built in 2004


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« Reply #69 on: November 04, 2010, 12:33:02 AM »
Needs no introduction, but it's worth mentioning the Duomo in Florence, Italy. I was just there last month and was astonished at how much bigger it was than it looks in pictures. The dome is as large as St. Peter's. It just dominates the modern city of Florence. See that sizeable church in the foreground? It looks like a Turkish minaret in comparison.

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« Reply #70 on: November 04, 2010, 12:35:02 AM »
Santa Maria Maggiore Tuscania, Italy







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« Reply #71 on: November 04, 2010, 12:37:19 AM »
Salisbury Cathedral, England. That spire is 700 years old and is well over 400 feet high. Such a graceful and harmonious building because it was completed in a relatively short period of time.

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« Reply #72 on: November 04, 2010, 12:44:06 AM »
Thanks to all those who started and participated in this thread! Looking at all these churches gets me so excited. I'll take a break now :-)

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« Reply #73 on: November 04, 2010, 12:52:42 AM »
Santa Maria in Trastevere (Rome, Italy)



Santa Maria delle Grotte (Fossa, Italy)








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« Reply #74 on: November 04, 2010, 12:55:46 AM »
Thanks to all those who started and participated in this thread! Looking at all these churches gets me so excited. I'll take a break now :-)
Me too! This was interesting. :)
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« Reply #75 on: November 04, 2010, 03:35:52 AM »
Nice. Why do all these Catholic Cathedrals in Italy look so Byzantine?

Because they are former Orthodox churches? ;)
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Re: Roman Catholic Churches
« Reply #76 on: November 04, 2010, 09:15:42 AM »
Nice. Why do all these Catholic Cathedrals in Italy look so Byzantine?

Because they are former Orthodox churches? ;)

Some of them are, some of them are just made up stuff stolen from Orthodox churches  ;)

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« Reply #77 on: November 04, 2010, 09:45:18 AM »
Nice. Why do all these Catholic Cathedrals in Italy look so Byzantine?

Because they are former Orthodox churches? ;)

Some of them are, some of them are just made up stuff stolen from Orthodox churches  ;)

They stole the walls. You should have seen it!

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« Reply #78 on: November 04, 2010, 10:07:12 AM »
F.e. the marble columns from the demolished St. Alexander Church in Warsaw are now in the RC Wawel Cathedral in Kraków. AFAIK it's not the only one case.

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I also recall the rubble from the demolished Resurrection Church in Białystok used in fence of the RC St. Roch Church in Białystok.
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« Reply #79 on: November 04, 2010, 10:49:06 AM »
Ukrainian and Romanian Byzantine Catholics can provide plenty of examples of the reverse.  I'm going to have to echo the sentiments of podkarpatska in another thread and say the historical recriminations don't do us much good.

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« Reply #80 on: November 04, 2010, 10:58:11 AM »
Nice. Why do all these Catholic Cathedrals in Italy look so Byzantine?

Because they are former Orthodox churches? ;)

Some of them are, some of them are just made up stuff stolen from Orthodox churches  ;)

They stole the walls. You should have seen it!

This is a long and complicated history with many sources for further information

Actually, much of southern Italy and Sicily was past of the Byzantine Empire through the 12th century or so. As the power of the Byzantines diminished, its influence there waned. Also, the Venetians maintained a 'complicated' relationship with the Byzantines after 1054 continuing through the period of the conquest . Venetian merchants and churchmen often imported the greatest artists of Constantinople to adorn the Churches of the Venetians.

We Orthodox should be thankful to our Roman brothers who, for the most part,  did not act like the Muslims in obliterating iconography but for preserving its majesty for the eyes of modern peoples!

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« Reply #81 on: November 04, 2010, 11:01:12 AM »
F.e. the marble columns from the demolished St. Alexander Church in Warsaw are now in the RC Wawel Cathedral in Kraków. AFAIK it's not the only one case.

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I also recall the rubble from the demolished Resurrection Church in Białystok used in fence of the RC St. Roch Church in Białystok.
Read what Schultz wrote!

Anyways, the Gorazd mentioned in many of Isa's posts did not come to Kraków but to Wiślica, which was the capital of the region.
Here is the minor basilica of Wiślica.







Also, a temporary Byzantine exarchate existed in the city of Sandomierz for a couple decades in the 10th century.
Here are the churches of modern Sandomierz.
The Dominican convent of Sandomierz, founded by one of the Apostles of St.Dominic, St.Jacek(yA-tsek) who is called st.Hyacinth in English,French and other languages.

Church of the conversion of St.Paul, Sandomierz
Below is the cathedral of Sandomierz


If someone wants to gaze at Baroque and Roccoco please view these four galeries : http://www.katedra.sandomierz.org/galeria/index1.html

The Catholic Church of St.Nicholas, Kyiv, Ukraine

The church of st.John the Baptist in Bila Tserkva, Ukraine
Zhytomyr:
The church of st. John from Dukla built in 1828-41
The cathedral of Zhytomyr, Ukraine st.Sophia built in 1737

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« Reply #82 on: November 04, 2010, 11:15:10 AM »
May someone help me with resizing the photos above. The Royal Cathedral of the Royal City of Kraków, (CRACOVIA) dedicated to St.Stanisław and Wacław (Stanislaus and Vaclav/Weneceslaus)
The Sarcophagus of St.Stanisław (Stanislaus)




The main altar of the Lady Church of Kraków, Kościół Mariacki
The Apse and Rood of the Lady Church of Kraków
The exterior of the Lady Church of Kraków

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« Reply #83 on: November 04, 2010, 12:05:36 PM »
May someone help me with resizing the photos above.

type width=500, or whatever size you want, in the [img] e.g.. [img width=500]
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« Reply #84 on: November 04, 2010, 12:08:54 PM »
Santa Maria in Trastevere (Rome, Italy)

Is this the one which is supposed to have gold on its ceiling brought back by Columbus from the New World?
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« Reply #85 on: November 04, 2010, 01:22:45 PM »
Isa, I think that every church in Spain has gold from the New World. The fact that they used gold from the New World is not a shocking fact. I do not think that Europe has or had much gold, though. Although I hear Romania has significant gold mines.

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« Reply #86 on: November 04, 2010, 02:47:59 PM »
Isa, I think that every church in Spain has gold from the New World. The fact that they used gold from the New World is not a shocking fact. I do not think that Europe has or had much gold, though. Although I hear Romania has significant gold mines.
He ignorance is showing. This church is Italian. The Spanish Crown was the one that discovered America. I hope the moderator sees his posts. We just can't be at peace anywhere us Catholics have something to post without having him attacking anything that resembles Roman Catholic. I was under the assumption that this thread is for posting pics and not for polemics. I sincerely hope the moderator helps us keep that way, and I am aware he has already given a warning.
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« Reply #87 on: November 04, 2010, 02:59:44 PM »
I'm probably being Captain Obvious here, but this one is pretty stunning:




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« Reply #88 on: November 04, 2010, 03:16:20 PM »


Didn't they take out the "ironing board" recently and start performing the liturgy with the original altar? Or am I just remembering high hopes?

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« Reply #89 on: November 04, 2010, 03:19:50 PM »
Isa, I think that every church in Spain has gold from the New World. The fact that they used gold from the New World is not a shocking fact. I do not think that Europe has or had much gold, though. Although I hear Romania has significant gold mines.
He ignorance is showing. This church is Italian. The Spanish Crown was the one that discovered America. I hope the moderator sees his posts. We just can't be at peace anywhere us Catholics have something to post without having him attacking anything that resembles Roman Catholic. I was under the assumption that this thread is for posting pics and not for polemics. I sincerely hope the moderator helps us keep that way, and I am aware he has already given a warning.


That's funny, because it's your prejudice against Ialmisry that is showing.  He asked a rather neutral question based on information I myself have heard elsewhere.  Instead of being the clairvoyant that you are purporting to be and telling us ialmisry's intentions, answering his question would have sufficed instead of being a hypocrite and pointing out the supposed speck in his eye when you have a plank in yours: you are engaging in commentary that stands on the edge of violating my diktat.

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