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Re: Superiority of Sola Scriptura over Scripture + Orthodox Tradition
« Reply #315 on: January 11, 2011, 11:16:59 PM »

Being called swine and troll by moderators was the last straw...


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Re: Superiority of Sola Scriptura over Scripture + Orthodox Tradition
« Reply #316 on: January 11, 2011, 11:36:24 PM »
Come on, TtC, you know (or should know) this isn't a "Christian vs Christian" thing.  There is always someone like Alfred on every Internet forum, of whatever subject matter.   We had them at IIDB too. :)
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Re: Superiority of Sola Scriptura over Scripture + Orthodox Tradition
« Reply #317 on: January 11, 2011, 11:43:50 PM »
Come on, TtC, you know (or should know) this isn't a "Christian vs Christian" thing.  There is always someone like Alfred on every Internet forum, of whatever subject matter.   We had them at IIDB too. :)

I was on that forum recently and they had you categorized still as an atheist. Dang they had alot of Christians turn to atheism.

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Re: Superiority of Sola Scriptura over Scripture + Orthodox Tradition
« Reply #318 on: January 11, 2011, 11:44:36 PM »
Come on, TtC, you know (or should know) this isn't a "Christian vs Christian" thing.  There is always someone like Alfred on every Internet forum, of whatever subject matter.   We had them at IIDB too. :)

Yes, this thread was more akin to D&D 4ed rules lawyers arguing against AD&D.
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Re: Superiority of Sola Scriptura over Scripture + Orthodox Tradition
« Reply #319 on: January 12, 2011, 01:27:52 AM »
TtC, are you sure you were looking at the right person? I didn't have the same username there that I have here.  Plus I made no secret of my theism - I made sure the mods knew when I became one.
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Re: Superiority of Sola Scriptura over Scripture + Orthodox Tradition
« Reply #320 on: January 12, 2011, 02:22:11 AM »
Come on, TtC, you know (or should know) this isn't a "Christian vs Christian" thing.  There is always someone like Alfred on every Internet forum, of whatever subject matter.   We had them at IIDB too. :)

I was on that forum recently and they had you categorized still as an atheist. Dang they had alot of Christians turn to atheism.

OK, now I'm puzzled because I did some digging.  The old IIDB forum doesn't exist anymore, it's been morphed into the FRDB (Freeratio) discussion board.  My account as "windsofchange" is still there and I'm still listed as a "Gardnerian fideist".  Wondering what you saw that had me "categorized still as an atheist"?

Also yes, there were a lot of people at that forum who had turned to atheism from Christianity. But really, what does that prove?  There are plenty of atheists who turned to Christianity and go on to other boards to discuss their newfound beliefs.  Most of them don't continue on atheist boards (mainly because they get unmercifully lambasted if they do).  But nevertheless, my point is, people change their beliefs all the time.

(I know this is off the OP's topic so my apologies, I did just want to clarify this though. Thanks.)
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Re: Superiority of Sola Scriptura over Scripture + Orthodox Tradition
« Reply #321 on: January 12, 2011, 04:07:02 AM »
Very interesting thread to say the least. Hey theistgal did they try to convert you back to atheism?
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Re: Superiority of Sola Scriptura over Scripture + Orthodox Tradition
« Reply #322 on: January 12, 2011, 05:17:07 AM »
LMFAO AT THIS THREAD.

Clearly this guy is worse than me, Christians arguing against Christians. Gotta love pride. :laugh:

Thankfully atheists never argue with one another. Brb, I'm going to go watch atheists mock Sam Harris for embracing "spirituality"  :P

Ya, I've seen some people go at him pretty ruthlessly over his open-mindedness regarding the spiritual experience and some of his "meditation expeditions"...

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Re: Superiority of Sola Scriptura over Scripture + Orthodox Tradition
« Reply #323 on: January 12, 2011, 11:58:29 PM »
Achronos - a few did but most were respectful.  They were a nice bunch of people.

In fact I was quite proud to witness two of the moderators there going out of their way to help a woman who'd posted a suicide threat.

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Re: Superiority of Sola Scriptura over Scripture + Orthodox Tradition
« Reply #324 on: January 14, 2011, 01:45:19 AM »
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Re: Superiority of Sola Scriptura over Scripture + Orthodox Tradition
« Reply #325 on: February 02, 2011, 04:26:28 PM »
A man who relies solely on Sola Scriptura is blind and will remain in darkness.
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Re: Superiority of Sola Scriptura over Scripture + Orthodox Tradition
« Reply #326 on: February 09, 2011, 09:05:13 PM »
whether a partisan of sola scriptura can say whether oral instructions concerning, say, the Eucharistic liturgy, made it into the canon or not? Partisans of non-liturgical traditions of worship (what the historian, Joseph Strayer, called “four walls and a sermon”) may consider liturgy an arbitrary matter, but Catholics do not, because they believe God is to be worshipped, not as we wish, but as He wishes -- in a manner divinely revealed through Sacred Tradition, which involves at its center the sacramental presentation of the once-for-all, atoning sacrifice of Christ.

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Re: Superiority of Sola Scriptura over Scripture + Orthodox Tradition
« Reply #327 on: February 09, 2011, 09:34:21 PM »
in a manner divinely revealed through Sacred Tradition
I don't know about your particular organization, but in the Orthodox Christian Church, things are not "divinely revealed through Sacred Tradition". In Orthodox Christianity, Tradition is the handing down through the Church of what was once and for all divinely revealed to the Apostles. God doesn't "reveal" things through Tradition- rather, Tradition is the preservation of what God has revealed.
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Re: Superiority of Sola Scriptura over Scripture + Orthodox Tradition
« Reply #328 on: March 26, 2011, 01:47:43 PM »
hmmm…however you slice it isn't that the point which was being made…that our worship has divine origin and not mere human invention?