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« Reply #90 on: October 28, 2010, 09:08:45 AM »

This guru seems to have a lot of trolls following him.
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« Reply #92 on: October 28, 2010, 09:28:10 AM »

I think it is valid philosophically. We just have to ask properly: why is Karma philosophy innapropriate to Christianity? Why we do not believe in it?
Actually the answer is very simple: Since Jesus come to rescue our sins, our sins have no poweer over us, since we repenth. So we do not have to suffer to evolve.
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« Reply #93 on: October 28, 2010, 10:13:46 AM »

But dude, you are STILL cutting and pasting! Not to mention flooding this forum with thread after thread, what is your intention, to preach about yourself? And how your opinions are the only viable ones? This is not dialogue, it's a politicians discourse!
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« Reply #94 on: October 28, 2010, 10:26:35 AM »


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« Reply #95 on: October 28, 2010, 12:13:21 PM »

dattaswami,

You've started close to 20 threads within the past two days, all with such apparent copy-and-paste jobs from who knows where. Do you really want conversation and dialogue, or are you just using OC.net as your own personal blog?

I really want a good discussion to takes place..
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« Reply #96 on: October 28, 2010, 12:59:42 PM »

Discussion requires contest. We need to know the exact sources of the tripe you're posting so often.
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« Reply #97 on: October 28, 2010, 01:14:06 PM »

You should start a church. I'll come visit out of curiousity...

What you mean by that....

I'll come to your church and start reading long essays out of a book. And then when people ask me questions, I'll answer with more essays.
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« Reply #98 on: October 28, 2010, 01:43:46 PM »



What does a sci-fi/horror convention have to do with the OP?









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« Reply #99 on: October 28, 2010, 01:46:01 PM »

This would seem to be him.

http://younoodle.com/people/anil_antony

If you got your Master's from Stanford, didn't you learn about individual discussion? What's with all the copy-pasting?
When Jesus was struggling upon the cross, the theif who was also on the cross recognised Jesus as God even though Jesus was crying for help. This shows that the thief is not an ordinary preson and has love to Jesus.

Jesus never cried for help. Where are you getting this?
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« Reply #100 on: October 28, 2010, 02:03:58 PM »

This would seem to be him.

http://younoodle.com/people/anil_antony

If you got your Master's from Stanford, didn't you learn about individual discussion? What's with all the copy-pasting?
When Jesus was struggling upon the cross, the theif who was also on the cross recognised Jesus as God even though Jesus was crying for help. This shows that the thief is not an ordinary preson and has love to Jesus.
Jesus never cried for help. Where are you getting this?

Matthew 27:46 .
[46] And about the ninth hour Jesus cried with a loud voice, saying: Eli, Eli, lamma sabacthani? that is, My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me?

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« Reply #101 on: October 28, 2010, 02:12:41 PM »

He was not crying for help. He was quotingPsalm 22, one of the most clear prophecies of the Old Testament about Christ:

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My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me? {why art thou so} far from helping me, {and from} the words of my roaring? {Aijeleth...: or, the hind of the morning} {helping...: Heb. my salvation}

O my God, I cry in the daytime, but thou hearest not; and in the night season, and am not silent. {am...: Heb. there is no silence to me}

But thou {art} holy, {O thou} that inhabitest the praises of Israel.

Our fathers trusted in thee: they trusted, and thou didst deliver them.

They cried unto thee, and were delivered: they trusted in thee, and were not confounded.

But I {am} a worm, and no man; a reproach of men, and despised of the people.

All they that see me laugh me to scorn: they shoot out the lip, they shake the head, {saying}, {shoot...: Heb. open}

He trusted on the LORD {that} he would deliver him: let him deliver him, seeing he delighted in him. {He trusted...: Heb. He rolled himself on} {seeing...: or, if he delight in}

But thou {art} he that took me out of the womb: thou didst make me hope {when I was} upon my mother's breasts. {didst...: or, kept me in safety}

I was cast upon thee from the womb: thou {art} my God from my mother's belly.

Be not far from me; for trouble {is} near; for {there is} none to help. {none...: Heb. not a helper}

Many bulls have compassed me: strong {bulls} of Bashan have beset me round.

They gaped upon me {with} their mouths, {as} a ravening and a roaring lion. {gaped...: Heb. opened their mouths against me}

I am poured out like water, and all my bones are out of joint: my heart is like wax; it is melted in the midst of my bowels. {out of...: or, sundered}

My strength is dried up like a potsherd; and my tongue cleaveth to my jaws; and thou hast brought me into the dust of death.

For dogs have compassed me: the assembly of the wicked have inclosed me: they pierced my hands and my feet.

I may tell all my bones: they look {and} stare upon me.

They part my garments among them, and cast lots upon my vesture.


But be not thou far from me, O LORD: O my strength, haste thee to help me.

Deliver my soul from the sword; my darling from the power of the dog. {my darling: Heb. my only one} {power: Heb. hand}

Save me from the lion's mouth: for thou hast heard me from the horns of the unicorns.

I will declare thy name unto my brethren: in the midst of the congregation will I praise thee.

Ye that fear the LORD, praise him; all ye the seed of Jacob, glorify him; and fear him, all ye the seed of Israel.

For he hath not despised nor abhorred the affliction of the afflicted; neither hath he hid his face from him; but when he cried unto him, he heard.

My praise {shall be} of thee in the great congregation: I will pay my vows before them that fear him.

The meek shall eat and be satisfied: they shall praise the LORD that seek him: your heart shall live for ever.

All the ends of the world shall remember and turn unto the LORD: and all the kindreds of the nations shall worship before thee.

For the kingdom {is} the LORD'S: and he {is} the governor among the nations.

All {they that be} fat upon earth shall eat and worship: all they that go down to the dust shall bow before him: and none can keep alive his own soul.

A seed shall serve him; it shall be accounted to the Lord for a generation.

They shall come, and shall declare his righteousness unto a people that shall be born, that he hath done {this}.


So not only, He was not crying out for help but was teaching all those who were around Who He truly is.
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« Reply #102 on: October 28, 2010, 04:09:05 PM »



What does a sci-fi/horror convention have to do with the OP?







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Well, the OP and the other threads of the same poster are full of dogmatic horrors and theological science fiction.
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« Reply #103 on: October 28, 2010, 09:36:38 PM »

You should start a church. I'll come visit out of curiousity...

What you mean by that....

I'll come to your church and start reading long essays out of a book. And then when people ask me questions, I'll answer with more essays.

If you read bible then you can see that Jesus was not sitting at Home and enjoying. He was traveling all over the place and was preaching the knoweldge of God. Poeple were sitting around HIm and was discussing asking questions and Jesus clarifiying with the knoweldge. When thus immersed in such discussion of knoweldge or Satsanga, one time He not even bothered when His mother St. Mary came to look for Him.

Thus when God comes in human form He preaches the knoweldge is breadth and depth so that the doubts are clarified in a most wonderful manner.
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« Reply #104 on: October 28, 2010, 09:38:13 PM »

This would seem to be him.

http://younoodle.com/people/anil_antony

If you got your Master's from Stanford, didn't you learn about individual discussion? What's with all the copy-pasting?
When Jesus was struggling upon the cross, the theif who was also on the cross recognised Jesus as God even though Jesus was crying for help. This shows that the thief is not an ordinary preson and has love to Jesus.

Jesus never cried for help. Where are you getting this?

Jesus cried on the cross, and told Why Father Why are you left Me alone...

The essence of the post is that even when Jesus was struggling on the cross, even after seeing such state of Jesus, that theif believed Him as God.
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« Reply #105 on: October 28, 2010, 09:41:25 PM »

Discussion requires contest. We need to know the exact sources of the tripe you're posting so often.

I give discourses and the discurses are recoreded and typed.

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« Reply #106 on: October 28, 2010, 09:44:18 PM »

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« Reply #107 on: October 28, 2010, 09:46:24 PM »

I think it is valid philosophically. We just have to ask properly: why is Karma philosophy innapropriate to Christianity? Why we do not believe in it?
Actually the answer is very simple: Since Jesus come to rescue our sins, our sins have no poweer over us, since we repenth. So we do not have to suffer to evolve.
Ad Majorem Gloriam Dei.

But lot of Jesus believers are suffering now also (no offense please). My point is that even after beleiving or accepting Jesus christ as saviour one should really stop doing sins and also should increase our love to Him and work for Him without expecting anything in return...
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« Reply #108 on: October 28, 2010, 09:47:25 PM »

I think it is valid philosophically.

Cycle of Deeds

The human being is entangled in the cycle of deeds called as karma chakra. The thought in the mind is the seed, which grows and generates action. The action certainly gives its result. Even if you escape the result of your action in this world you cannot escape from it in the upper world. In fact the result in the upper world is very severe due to the compounded interest due to the delay in getting the result. Therefore blessed are those who are punished in this world itself. Jesus says “It is better to punish yourself for your sin in this world itself than to fall into eternal hell”.

The punishment reduces the thought (which caused the deed) to the state of a tiny seedling. However the punishment cannot destroy the thought completely. The thought exists in a very minute called the state of subconsciousness. Even you are not aware of your subconscious thought. When the soul comes from hell to the earth and enters a new human body, the child contains all the qualities or thoughts of previous births, hidden in the subconscious state. Therefore the child is unaware of anything and appears to be the most innocent and sacred.

 In the child the thoughts are like seeds that have not germinated. Whatever may be the external atmosphere in which the child grows; those strong thoughts will certainly germinate and grow up to be tender plants if not strong trees. But if the external atmosphere is favorable, the strong thoughts become trees, and weak thoughts will become plants. These germinated thoughts will result in corresponding actions. The actions will give their own fruits whether here or there. 

The fruits are the punishments, which will again reduce the thoughts to seeds. This is the cycle of the deeds. When it is said that you are enjoying the fruit of the action of your previous birth, it has to be understood in the context of this cycle. The action of your previous birth was punished in hell and has reduced your thought to the form of a seed. In this birth the seed grows and results in its corresponding action. Such action can give you its result in this world if you are captured here itself. The judicial system in this world also functions under the direction of the Lord only. If you have escaped the judicial system in this world, it too is by the will of Lord alone. The Lord might have judged your case and might have given you a chance of transformation.

 Sometimes you are punished wrongly in a case. Do not abuse the court or God. Perhaps you are punished for some other sin. Do not think that you have escaped a punishment that you deserve just because the court finds you ‘not guilty’. Perhaps God is directing you for a severe punishment in hell, which cannot be provided by the court here. Therefore do not think that you have fooled the court or that the deity of justice is blind with a cloth tied on her eyes. Even this court is functioning according to the will of the Lord because the Lord governs everybody and everything in this world. Therefore do not blame God or do not say that God does not exist if some criminal escapes punishment of human courts.

 Destroying the Seed

Now the main point is how to escape from this cycle? You cannot escape from this cycle by preventing the deed or punishment. If you are tied with a rope, you will not do the deed as long as you are tied. You will do the deed as soon as you are released from the rope. You may escape the result of your deed here by someone’s recommendations, but you cannot escape from it in hell. The only way to stop this cycle is to destroy the thought which is the initiating seed of this cycle. How to destroy it?

The seed is a thought which is a living property (sentient property) or a property of life. If it were an inert property like light or heat, it could be prevented by physical methods. Only knowledge, which is another living property, can destroy this thought. Only a diamond can cut another diamond. The wrong knowledge, which generates this sin, is dangerous. Ignorance, which is zero, is better than wrong knowledge, which is minus (negative). Therefore only righteous knowledge can destroy wrong thoughts. You can differentiate the right knowledge from the wrong knowledge through careful, patient analysis and discrimination. The knowledge of God alone can create devotion in your mind and develop it. Thus by knowledge alone can you get rid of this cycle and attain and please God. Shankara says “Jnanat eva tu kaivalyam”, which means that knowledge alone can give salvation. Jesus preached the same spiritual knowledge throughout His life.


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« Reply #109 on: October 28, 2010, 09:47:52 PM »

You should start a church. I'll come visit out of curiousity...

What you mean by that....

I'll come to your church and start reading long essays out of a book. And then when people ask me questions, I'll answer with more essays.

If you read bible then you can see that Jesus was not sitting at Home and enjoying. He was traveling all over the place and was preaching the knoweldge of God. Poeple were sitting around HIm and was discussing asking questions and Jesus clarifiying with the knoweldge.

As opposed to cutting and pasting text from somewhere else?
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« Reply #110 on: October 28, 2010, 09:48:57 PM »

Levels in Spirituality

Miracles are just fundamental level of elementary schools, which are widely spread everywhere, by the wish of God. Even evil people can do these miracles by black magic. The idea behind such wide covering range of miracles is that these miracles are useful in converting atheists into theists. For such elementary work, human incarnations or professors are not necessary.

The next level is Jnana Yoga, which is the level of high schools. The high schools are lesser in number than elementary schools because only some converted theists start the enquiry about the subject (Jnana Yoga) of the unimaginable God, since His existence was indirectly proved through the unimaginable miracles and He is the source of the unimaginable power behind the miracles.

The next higher level is formation of theoretical love (Bhakti Yoga) or devotion on the Lord since a few of the scholars of God get this and this level is the level of colleges.

The ultimate highest level is practical devotion (Karma Yoga) or service to God, which is the level of University and is very rare since a few of devotees only can become servants of God through practical sacrifice of work and fruit of work. The scientific analysis of divine knowledge (Jnana Yoga) is pervading all the four levels as the basic torchlight. In the first level, the existence of God is accepted. In the second level, the existence of unimaginable God is accepted.

 In the third level, the representatives of God like statues in human form are worshipped by words and mind to get rid of ego and jealousy towards human form. In the fourth level, the decision of the final conclusion of the intellectual analysis results in detecting the contemporary human incarnation and involve in a practical service in His mission.



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It's as if he's posting his entire website. He's just throwing reams of stuff at us. There's very little discussion going on. 27 posts a day, of this?

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« Reply #112 on: October 28, 2010, 09:54:23 PM »

Is this like levels in dungeons and dragons? Does one need to earn experience points? Are there prestige classes?
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« Reply #113 on: October 28, 2010, 09:58:21 PM »

It's as if he's posting his entire website. He's just throwing reams of stuff at us. There's very little discussion going on. 27 posts a day, of this?
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« Reply #114 on: October 28, 2010, 09:58:47 PM »

Is this like levels in dungeons and dragons? Does one need to earn experience points? Are there prestige classes?

Here level means ones real imporant and value which is given to God. Some people approach GOd only for selfishness and to get some benefit, certainly they are at the lowest level, there are people who really love GOd and work for Him without any expecation, ceratiainly in the eyes of God they are very dear to Him....Certainly there is difference in the approach of people to God......

Jesus was dearest to God since He sacrificed His own life for God's mission, and ordinary person cannot be compared to Jesus...........

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There are two paths of love on God. The path of limited real love on wife and the path of unlimited real love on children. The first path is aspiring boons from God for selfish happiness, which involves mostly theoretical and little practical devotion.

In this first path, one loves his wife for selfish happiness only and most of his love is emotional (Theoretical) with little practical sacrifice. The second path is selfless love without any aspiration of fruit in return and consists of mostly practical and little theoretical devotion. In this second path, one loves his child without any selfishness and a total sacrifice of work and fruit of work. Hanuman and Gopikas are the best Gold Medal-students of the University.

Once you are fixed in the divine service of God, there is no need of miracles, knowledge and theoretical devotion. The knowledge is the qualifying degree and the theoretical devotion is official appointment order. The practical devotion is the work done in the month and salary (fruit) is given to the monthly work only. Only work (Karma) can yield the fruit.




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« Reply #116 on: October 28, 2010, 10:00:57 PM »

He thinks we need illumination from his guru. A little spaming and the "burden" of being seen as unpolite is just the necessary sacrifice that a soul so compassionate as his has to go through to help those in darkness.

Arrogance and vanity, maybe lots of insecurity, the Alfred of hinduism. That's all.

No thing like that.

God speaks through me the divine knowledge it is not me who gave the knoweldge it is the GOd who present in me gives it..
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« Reply #117 on: October 28, 2010, 10:02:29 PM »

You should start a church. I'll come visit out of curiousity...

What you mean by that....

I'll come to your church and start reading long essays out of a book. And then when people ask me questions, I'll answer with more essays.

If you read bible then you can see that Jesus was not sitting at Home and enjoying. He was traveling all over the place and was preaching the knoweldge of God. Poeple were sitting around HIm and was discussing asking questions and Jesus clarifiying with the knoweldge.

As opposed to cutting and pasting text from somewhere else?

God comes to this world for propagating the divine knowledge which is a serious job to be carried out efficiently...
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« Reply #118 on: October 28, 2010, 10:03:09 PM »

To the OP:  Did anyone here ask you the questions you're answering?

Such questions can come in the mind of many devotees also.

Devotees of what or whom?

Devotees of GOD....
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« Reply #119 on: October 28, 2010, 10:03:46 PM »


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With but one exception that I've seen, every single one of your posts over the last 24 hours are verifiable copy, cut and paste jobs. I ask, in accordance with our forum rules, that you provide links and references for ALL of your copy and paste job postings. I will give you 24 hours to comply with this request. (though if you can do so faster, that would be appreciated) A Failure to provide references and links for where you are getting these copy and pasted posts will warrant further disciplinary action. Also please be aware, any future copy and pasted posts you make must also contain a link and reference for where it is you are getting them. If you haven't done so as of yet, please familiarized yourself with the forum rules and guidelines before flooding the boards with anymore posts.

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Agreed......
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« Reply #120 on: October 28, 2010, 10:12:46 PM »

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No thing like that.

God speaks through me the divine knowledge it is not me who gave the knoweldge it is the GOd who present in me gives it..


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Wow. Just wow.
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« Reply #121 on: October 28, 2010, 10:17:17 PM »

Prayer of ordinary person Vs a high level devotee

Ganapati means the Lord of a group of close devotees, who have reached the climax of devotion. The word Gana does not mean the entire group of normal souls. Gana means a group of souls, who have become very close to the Lord by their unimaginable devotion. The Lord is certainly the master of all the souls, but the Gana is specially attached group of souls. The king is attached to the people in his kingdom, but he is specially attached to his family members.  There is difference in the intensity of the attachments. When the Lord incarnates on this earth in human form, these souls from the Gana also accompany the Lord. These liberated souls have no bondage of the cycle of deeds and their lives are totally planned by the Lord.

 For example, if you take the life of Jesus, His crucifixion was not due to His past deeds and it was purely based on the will of the Lord, who planned such incident in His life for the sake of uplift of the society. Therefore, Jesus prayed “Let Thy will be done”. Here the crucifixion is according to the will of the Lord. The same statement cannot be uttered by an ordinary human being in such situation.  The crucifixion of other two persons in the same time was based on their sins. Therefore, they cannot utter this statement because their lives were based on their deeds and not on the plan of God’s will. In the case of these two ordinary human beings, the proper statement should be “Let the Law take its own course”.  Without this analysis, ordinary human beings also utter the former statement due to ignorance.

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« Reply #122 on: October 28, 2010, 10:22:03 PM »

You should start a church. I'll come visit out of curiousity...

What you mean by that....

I'll come to your church and start reading long essays out of a book. And then when people ask me questions, I'll answer with more essays.

If you read bible then you can see that Jesus was not sitting at Home and enjoying. He was traveling all over the place and was preaching the knoweldge of God. Poeple were sitting around HIm and was discussing asking questions and Jesus clarifiying with the knoweldge.

As opposed to cutting and pasting text from somewhere else?

God comes to this world for propagating the divine knowledge which is a serious job to be carried out efficiently...

No, God's word is nourishing and personal. You are selling spiritual fast food.
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« Reply #123 on: October 28, 2010, 10:25:06 PM »

Years ago, there was a baseball game with the Brewers and I forget who else, that went on for over 22 innings or so, because the pitchers kept throwing the ball into the stands- things like that.

 Undecided

This reminds me a little of that.
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No, God's word is nourishing and personal. You are selling spiritual fast food.

The knowledge spoken by the contemporary human incarnation in presence of your eyes, heard by your ears directly is divine knowledge. The main divinity here is that all your doubts are clarified directly and this is not possible when you read any scripture.
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« Reply #125 on: October 28, 2010, 10:29:22 PM »

By praying to remove difficulties you are disturbing God

Generally, people pray God to remove their difficulties. They do not know that by doing so, God has to interfere in His own cycle of administration. By doing so, God has to insult the deity of justice and this deity was appointed by God Himself to run the administration without any partiality. Having ordered so, God Himself will not show partiality on anybody under any circumstances. God will not contradict His own policy. If any administrator in this world contradicts his own policy, he is certified as a mad fellow certainly. Of course, if a particular soul is in the climax of devotion to God, passing all the acid tests of Datta, God will over rule His own policy as in the case of Markandeya. In fact, God even killed the deity of justice (Yamadharma Raja) in such special case.

Without analyzing its own status in the devotion, every soul prays God to violate the rule of justice and insult the deity of justice. Even though such insult is not mentioned directly in the prayer, the prayer means the same indirectly. Lord Krishna gave life to the dead son of Sandeepani and this was extreme case since the dead body was also destroyed long back.

 Sandeepani was such a deserving person. Quoting this, Subhadra, the sister of Lord Krishna, prayed the Lord to give life to her dead son and the dead body was immediately available. But Lord did not give life to the dead body. Subhadra did not analyze the difference in the deservingness between her and Sandeepani. She thought that she deserves more than even Sandeepani, since she was the sister of Lord.
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« Reply #127 on: October 28, 2010, 10:39:03 PM »

 Cheesy If my dog weren't asleep, I think she'd say that too.
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« Reply #128 on: October 28, 2010, 10:41:51 PM »

Have you met the seasoned apologist, Alfred Persson? I believe the two of you would get along famously.

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« Reply #129 on: October 28, 2010, 10:45:14 PM »

By praying to remove difficulties you are disturbing God

Generally, people pray God to remove their difficulties. They do not know that by doing so, God has to interfere in His own cycle of administration. By doing so, God has to insult the deity of justice and this deity was appointed by God Himself to run the administration without any partiality. Having ordered so, God Himself will not show partiality on anybody under any circumstances. God will not contradict His own policy. If any administrator in this world contradicts his own policy, he is certified as a mad fellow certainly. Of course, if a particular soul is in the climax of devotion to God, passing all the acid tests of Datta, God will over rule His own policy as in the case of Markandeya. In fact, God even killed the deity of justice (Yamadharma Raja) in such special case.

Without analyzing its own status in the devotion, every soul prays God to violate the rule of justice and insult the deity of justice. Even though such insult is not mentioned directly in the prayer, the prayer means the same indirectly. Lord Krishna gave life to the dead son of Sandeepani and this was extreme case since the dead body was also destroyed long back.

 Sandeepani was such a deserving person. Quoting this, Subhadra, the sister of Lord Krishna, prayed the Lord to give life to her dead son and the dead body was immediately available. But Lord did not give life to the dead body. Subhadra did not analyze the difference in the deservingness between her and Sandeepani. She thought that she deserves more than even Sandeepani, since she was the sister of Lord.


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« Reply #130 on: October 28, 2010, 10:45:24 PM »

Wow, just....wow. The "deity of justice?"
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« Reply #131 on: October 28, 2010, 10:45:52 PM »

Did you have a question?
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« Reply #133 on: October 28, 2010, 10:48:58 PM »

Alfred, is that you? Cheesy
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« Reply #134 on: October 28, 2010, 10:49:26 PM »

Wow, just....wow. The "deity of justice?"

Nothing in that babble makes sense.

I bet he knows how to pick out shopping carts whose wheels don't wobble, even when overflowing with his belongings.
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