Absolutely meaningless exercise.
I have had more than one occaison where I have shown to a person how the CCC is incorrect from an historical and/or theological perspective, and for any die hard Catholic apologist their last desparate response is:
"So what? The CCC is not a reliable source of Catholic teaching anyway!"
So why bother with the CCC? Because it a reliable source of the Vatican's teaching More at the linked post.
You're right, Father, it is just for this reason that I think it wise to go through this question. On the one hand we are often told we do not have a catechism like the CCC, which is pointed out as "proof" of our deficiency, but then when we examine it, we get responses as you posted. Either it is authoritative-and the pope of the Vatican says it is-or it is not.
But you are talking to yourself
Obviously not. ChristusDominus felt compelled to post
Wyatt, my Roman Catholic brother, I'd rather shoot pool with a rope than pay attention to any of his burlesque comments.
rather than PM. I assume for a reason. No doubt if the thread goes on or someone brings it to Mardukm attention, he'll come to post some of his pronouncements (rather than citations) in encouragement of the idea that we don't know what we talk about, until the citations of your authorities scares him away (I notice that he posts at CAF and Byzcath when he's too preoccupied to post here. Of course, more members of the Vatican's choir over there, and he is free to choose his audience. Just not the response). Then those who lurk. Caveat lector.
This thread will provide a handy reference when the CCC paints the Vatican apologist into a corner and they try to evade that by disowning the CCC. As Fr. Chris stated, it happens. When it does I can just post a link and continue on ad rem.
about a tradition that you not only do not understand
That I reject it proffers no evidence that I do not understand it. I leave it to my citations to argue otherwise. Caveat lector.
but that you reject without a serious life long attempt
Being neither Hindu nor Buddhist, I do not labor under the dilusion (as the Fifth Council tells us) that I have more than one life to live. Meandering down a dead end is not a way to spend it.
I have the testimony of SS Photius, Gregory Palamas and Mark of Ephesus: I have no need to attempt a defense of your "Supreme Pontiffs" Leo IX ("sanctamque Romanam aecclesiam omnium aecclesiarum matrem et magistram ") Innocent III, Boniface VII and Pius IX, nor the time to waste doing so.
to see how it all is true, and how it all fits in its wholeness.
If the first sip of Kool-Aid tastes funny, I don't need to drink it down to the dreggs to know it's poisoned.
I am not limber enough for the gymnastics required to squeeze Ultramontanism into Orthodoxy. Your Suprememe Pontiff just reiterated 3 years ago that he thinks the One, Holy, Catholic and Apostolic Orthodox Church is "lacking." Since I know that the Orthodox Church lacks nothing, I am not puzzled and so need no more pieces to see "how it fits in its wholeness."
You spend time around Catholics who tell you things that are not so
not so because it doesn't fit your agenda? No, I spend time citing sources such as the CCC, in which your "Magisterium" tells you things that are not so.
and you suck it up like a sponge because it suits your own agenda, and then you arrogate to yourself the capability to do what you propose here?
I can read. So can those who come here. Caveat lector.
You are not even dialoging with the text.
Pointing out its flaws and errors is dialogue. Thinking otherwise is why the Ravenna/Crete/Cyrpus/Vienna texts are going to go nowhere.
You are using the text to highlight your own biases.
I am biased towards Orthodoxy. I swore to remain so at my chrismation.
As I said, in any real sense, it is a waste of your precious time.
Unfortunately I've wasted time on far, far less.
All it does is exercise your extreme dislike for things Catholic.
No, all things Ultramontane.
I come from Lutherans on one side of my family. It helps to know that is the tradition from which you came. It is a very very bitter relationship still.
The Lutherans and the Vatican?