Denomination quiz....very accurate!

[Tikhon.of.Colorado]

this is so wierd!  I took this quiz and my #1 of course was Eastern Orthodox.  but, my #2 was Lutheran!  my #3 was Roman Catholic.  here's the link:

http://www.selectsmart.com/FREE/select.php?client=christiandenom

take the test, and see what you get, and post it here!

[Rosehip]

 My #1 is: Eastern Orthodox Church    Selected books, bargains, etc.   
  My #2 is: Roman Catholic Church    Selected books, bargains, etc.   
  My #3 is: Lutheran Church-Missouri Synod    Selected books, bargains, etc.   
  My #4 is: Evangelical Lutheran Church    Selected books, bargains, etc.   
  My #5 is: Episcopal/Anglican Church    Selected books, bargains, etc.   
  My #6 is: International Church of Christ    Selected books, bargains, etc.   
  My #7 is: Methodist/Wesleyan Church    Selected books, bargains, etc.   
  My #8 is: Church of Christ    Selected books, bargains, etc.   
  My #9 is: United Pentecostal Church    Selected books, bargains, etc.   
  My #10 is: Mormonism    Selected books, bargains, etc.   
  My #11 is: Assemblies of God    Selected books, bargains, etc.   
  My #12 is: Free Will Baptist    Selected books, bargains, etc.   
  My #13 is: Mennonite Brethren    Selected books, bargains, etc.   
  My #14 is: Seventh-Day Adventist    Selected books, bargains, etc.   
  My #15 is: Orthodox Quakerism    Selected books, bargains, etc.   
  My #16 is: Presbyterian Church in America/Orthodox Presbyterian Church    Selected books, bargains, etc.   
  My #17 is: Reformed Churches    Selected books, bargains, etc.   
  My #18 is: Southern Baptist    Selected books, bargains, etc.   
  My #19 is: Presbyterian Church USA    Selected books, bargains, etc.   
  My #20 is: Reformed Baptist    Selected books, bargains, etc.   
  My #21 is: Jehovah's Witness    Selected books, bargains, etc.   
  My #22 is: Liberal Quakerism    Selected books, bargains, etc.   
  My #23 is: Unitarian Universalism    Selected books, bargains, etc.   
  My #24 is: Unity Church    Selected books, bargains, etc.   
 
 
 
 
 

[Entscheidungsproblem]

#1  Unitarian Universalism
#2  Unity Church
#3  Liberal Quakerism

[deusveritasest]

#1: Eastern Orthodox Church
#2: Roman Catholic Church
#3: Episcopal/Anglican Church
#4: Evangelical Lutheran Church
#5: Lutheran Church-Missouri Synod

[ialmisry]

  My #1 is: Eastern Orthodox Church    Selected books, bargains, etc.   
No suprise.
  My #2 is: Roman Catholic Church    Selected books, bargains, etc.   
Many will be shocked that the bar was almost equal to my #1
  My #3 is: Lutheran Church-Missouri Synod    Selected books, bargains, etc.   
  My #4 is: Evangelical Lutheran Church    Selected books, bargains, etc.   
I was baptized into this, but the parish I was in was more of the MO Synod mind (many went that route when the ELCA was formed and sent the parish a woman pastor. I was gone by then).
  My #5 is: International Church of Christ    Selected books, bargains, etc.   
Is this the Instrumental CC? I could see that.
  My #6 is: Episcopal/Anglican Church    Selected books, bargains, etc.   
Btw, the bar is about half way here.
  My #7 is: Mormonism    Selected books, bargains, etc.   
Eekh. Scary!
  My #8 is: Church of Christ    Selected books, bargains, etc.   
  My #9 is: Methodist/Wesleyan Church    Selected books, bargains, etc.   
  My #10 is: United Pentecostal Church    Selected books, bargains, etc.   
  My #11 is: Assemblies of God    Selected books, bargains, etc.   
  My #12 is: Free Will Baptist    Selected books, bargains, etc.   
  My #13 is: Mennonite Brethren    Selected books, bargains, etc.   
  My #14 is: Orthodox Quakerism    Selected books, bargains, etc.   
It is about a quarter here.
  My #15 is: Presbyterian Church in America/Orthodox Presbyterian Church    Selected books, bargains, etc.   
  My #16 is: Reformed Churches    Selected books, bargains, etc.   
  My #17 is: Seventh-Day Adventist    Selected books, bargains, etc.   
  My #18 is: Southern Baptist    Selected books, bargains, etc.   
  My #19 is: Presbyterian Church USA    Selected books, bargains, etc.   
Here it drops down to about a tenth.
  My #20 is: Reformed Baptist    Selected books, bargains, etc.   
  My #21 is: Jehovah's Witness    Selected books, bargains, etc. 
From here down it is negligible results.
  My #22 is: Liberal Quakerism    Selected books, bargains, etc.   
  My #23 is: Unitarian Universalism    Selected books, bargains, etc.   
  My #24 is:

[Cymbyz]

My #1 is: Eastern Orthodox Church
My #2 is: Lutheran Church-Missouri Synod
My #3 is: Roman Catholic Church
My #4 is: Evangelical Lutheran Church
My #5 is: Episcopal/Anglican Church
My #14 is: Presbyterian Church in America/Orthodox Presbyterian Church
My #17 is: Southern Baptist

I included here the first five answers, then selected lower answer that come close to matching denominations I was part of before I became Orthodox.

[Michał Kalina]

My #1 is:   Eastern Orthodox Church     
My #2 is:   Lutheran Church-Missouri Synod
My #3 is:   Roman Catholic Church

I haven't heard of half of the Churches listed there.

[stashko]

My #1 is: Eastern Orthodox Church    Selected books, bargains, etc.   
  My #2 is: Lutheran Church-Missouri Synod    Selected books, bargains, etc.   
  My #3 is: Roman Catholic Church    Selected books, bargains, etc.   
  My #4 is: Evangelical Lutheran Church    Selected books, bargains, etc.   
  My #5 is: International Church of Christ    Selected books, bargains, etc.   
  My #6 is: Church of Christ    Selected books, bargains, etc.   
  My #7 is: Episcopal/Anglican Church    Selected books, bargains, etc.   
  My #8 is: Methodist/Wesleyan Church    Selected books, bargains, etc.   
  My #9 is: Free Will Baptist    Selected books, bargains, etc.   
  My #10 is: Mormonism    Selected books, bargains, etc.   
  My #11 is: United Pentecostal Church    Selected books, bargains, etc.   
  My #12 is: Assemblies of God    Selected books, bargains, etc.   
  My #13 is: Mennonite Brethren    Selected books, bargains, etc.   
  My #14 is: Presbyterian Church in America/Orthodox Presbyterian Church    Selected books, bargains, etc.   
  My #15 is: Reformed Churches    Selected books, bargains, etc.   
  My #16 is: Southern Baptist    Selected books, bargains, etc.   
  My #17 is: Orthodox Quakerism    Selected books, bargains, etc.   
  My #18 is: Presbyterian Church USA    Selected books, bargains, etc.   
  My #19 is: Reformed Baptist    Selected books, bargains, etc.   
  My #20 is: Seventh-Day Adventist    Selected books, bargains, etc.   
  My #21 is: Jehovah's Witness    Selected books, bargains, etc.   
  My #22 is: Liberal Quakerism    Selected books, bargains, etc.   
  My #23 is: Unitarian Universalism    Selected books, bargains, etc.   
  My #24 is: Unity Church    Selected books, bargains, etc.   

[Jetavan]

Wow. I thought Unitarian-Universalist would be my #1 choice.


   My #1 is:   Eastern Orthodox Church      
   My #2 is:   Evangelical Lutheran Church       
   My #3 is:   Episcopal/Anglican Church       
   My #4 is:   Lutheran Church-Missouri Synod      
   My #5 is:   Methodist/Wesleyan Church       
   My #6 is:   Seventh-Day Adventist       
   My #7 is:   Presbyterian Church USA       
   My #8 is:   Roman Catholic Church      
   My #9 is:   Assemblies of God   
   My #10 is:   Presbyterian Church in America/Orthodox Presbyterian Church       
   My #11 is:   Reformed Churches       
   My #12 is:   Southern Baptist       
   My #13 is:   Mennonite Brethren       
   My #14 is:   Church of Christ       
   My #15 is:   Free Will Baptist       
   My #16 is:   Reformed Baptist       
   My #17 is:   Unitarian Universalism       
   My #18 is:   United Pentecostal Church       
   My #19 is:   Liberal Quakerism       
   My #20 is:   Orthodox Quakerism       
   My #21 is:   International Church of Christ       
   My #22 is:   Mormonism       
   My #23 is:   Unity Church       
   My #24 is:   Jehovah's Witness   

[Rufus]

I must be the odd one in this forum... not that I have anything against Lutherans

  My #1 is: Lutheran Church-Missouri Synod    Selected books, bargains, etc.   
  My #2 is: Evangelical Lutheran Church    Selected books, bargains, etc.   
  My #3 is: Eastern Orthodox Church    Selected books, bargains, etc.   
  My #4 is: Roman Catholic Church    Selected books, bargains, etc.   
  My #5 is: Assemblies of God    Selected books, bargains, etc.   
  My #6 is: Methodist/Wesleyan Church    Selected books, bargains, etc.   
  My #7 is: Church of Christ    Selected books, bargains, etc.   
  My #8 is: Episcopal/Anglican Church    Selected books, bargains, etc.   
  My #9 is: International Church of Christ    Selected books, bargains, etc.   
  My #10 is: United Pentecostal Church    Selected books, bargains, etc.   
  My #11 is: Seventh-Day Adventist    Selected books, bargains, etc.   
  My #12 is: Free Will Baptist    Selected books, bargains, etc.   
  My #13 is: Mennonite Brethren    Selected books, bargains, etc.   
  My #14 is: Orthodox Quakerism    Selected books, bargains, etc.   
  My #15 is: Southern Baptist    Selected books, bargains, etc.   
  My #16 is: Presbyterian Church in America/Orthodox Presbyterian Church    Selected books, bargains, etc.   
  My #17 is: Reformed Churches    Selected books, bargains, etc.   
  My #18 is: Presbyterian Church USA    Selected books, bargains, etc.   
  My #19 is: Reformed Baptist    Selected books, bargains, etc.   
  My #20 is: Mormonism    Selected books, bargains, etc.   
  My #21 is: Jehovah's Witness    Selected books, bargains, etc.   
  My #22 is: Liberal Quakerism    Selected books, bargains, etc.   
  My #23 is: Unitarian Universalism    Selected books, bargains, etc.   
  My #24 is: Unity Church    Selected books, bargains, etc.   

[elijahmaria]

I swear to you I did nothing...NOTHING...to try to influence this survey in the direction that it took.  I even answered the question on infallibility as invested in a single person and gave it high priority even though I don't think that is really what the Catholic Church teaches, but it seemed to be one of the major dividing lines, so I answered it as one might expect a Catholic to answer and here were my results....heh!!...

My #1 is: Eastern Orthodox Church       
My #2 is: Roman Catholic Church   
My #3 is: Lutheran Church-Missouri Synod       

[88Devin12]

1. Eastern Orthodox Church
2. Lutheran Church-Missouri Synod
3. Episcopal/Anglican Church
4. Evangelical Lutheran Church
5. Roman Catholic Church

[orthonorm]

My #1 is:
Eastern Orthodox Church    
My #2 is:
Lutheran Church-Missouri Synod    
My #3 is:
Evangelical Lutheran Church    
My #4 is:
Episcopal/Anglican Church    
My #5 is:
Roman Catholic Church    
My #6 is:
Methodist/Wesleyan Church    
My #7 is:
Assemblies of God    
My #8 is:
Church of Christ    
My #9 is:
Free Will Baptist    
My #10 is:
Mennonite Brethren    

[deusveritasest]

I swear to you I did nothing...NOTHING...to try to influence this survey in the direction that it took.  I even answered the question on infallibility as invested in a single person and gave it high priority even though I don't think that is really what the Catholic Church teaches, but it seemed to be one of the major dividing lines, so I answered it as one might expect a Catholic to answer and here were my results....heh!!...

My #1 is: Eastern Orthodox Church       
My #2 is: Roman Catholic Church   
My #3 is: Lutheran Church-Missouri Synod       

Actually it said "one (or few)", implying that it might have also had Ecumenical Councils in mind.

[scamandrius]

I swear to you I did nothing...NOTHING...to try to influence this survey in the direction that it took.  I even answered the question on infallibility as invested in a single person and gave it high priority even though I don't think that is really what the Catholic Church teaches, but it seemed to be one of the major dividing lines, so I answered it as one might expect a Catholic to answer and here were my results....heh!!...

My #1 is: Eastern Orthodox Church       
My #2 is: Roman Catholic Church   
My #3 is: Lutheran Church-Missouri Synod       

There's hope for you yet!

[vamrat]

Orthodox, Missouri Synod Lutheran (Grandpa would be pleased), Evangelical Lutheran, Catholic.

[biro]

Orthodox, Lutheran, Roman Catholic.   I was surprised in a number of ways, as I was raised in the Roman church, and never figured it would come out close to the Lutherans in this kind of a survey.   Shows what I know, I suppose.  

[deusveritasest]

Orthodox, Lutheran, Roman Catholic.   I was surprised in a number of ways, as I was raised in the Roman church, and never figured it would come out close to the Lutherans in this kind of a survey.   Shows what I know, I suppose.  

Original Confessional Lutheranism, from what I understand, was far closer to the Roman faith than modern Lutheranism appears to be. Perhaps the author was simply going on his/her understanding of Confessional Lutheranism.

[biro]

That's probably it. I haven't always done my fair share of reading about the various differences (or not) in things. Thanks for clearing it up.  

[JLatimer]

   I wasn't able to use the prioritizing function on this stupid iPhone, but here's what I got.

My #1 is:   Eastern Orthodox Church    Selected books, bargains, etc.   
   My #2 is:   Lutheran Church-Missouri Synod    Selected books, bargains, etc.   
   My #3 is:   Roman Catholic Church    Selected books, bargains, etc.   
   My #4 is:   Evangelical Lutheran Church    Selected books, bargains, etc.   
   My #5 is:   International Church of Christ    Selected books, bargains, etc.   
   My #6 is:   Church of Christ    Selected books, bargains, etc.   
   My #7 is:   Episcopal/Anglican Church    Selected books, bargains, etc.   
   My #8 is:   Methodist/Wesleyan Church    Selected books, bargains, etc.   
   My #9 is:   United Pentecostal Church    Selected books, bargains, etc.   
   My #10 is:   Assemblies of God    Selected books, bargains, etc.   

[Fabio Leite]

'' 1'' equals your best match. Default order  alphabetical, Mike Hopkins determined the order.
URL- http-//selectsmart.com/FREE/select.php?client=christiandenom

 
   01 - Eastern Orthodox Church      
   02 - Roman Catholic Church      
   03 - Lutheran Church-Missouri Synod      
   04 - Evangelical Lutheran Church      
   05 - Episcopal/Anglican Church      
   06 - International Church of Chrt      
   07 - United Pentecostal Church      
   08 - Assemblies of God      
   09 - Church of Christ      
   10 - Methodist/Wesleyan Church      
   11 - Mormonm      
   12 - Free Will Baptt      
   13 - Seventh-Day Adventist      
   14 - Mennonite Brethren      
   15 - Presbyterian Church in America/Orthodox Presbyterian Church      
   16 - Reformed Churches      
   17 - Southern Baptist      
   18 - Orthodox Quakerism      
   19 - Presbyterian Church USA      
   20 - Reformed Baptist      
   21 - Jehovah's Witness      
   22 - Liberal Quakerism      
   23 - Unitarian Universalism      
   24 - Unity Church

[CCTE]

This is funny. Thank you Trevor

        My #1 is:   Eastern Orthodox Church     Selected books, bargains, etc.     
   My #2 is:   Lutheran Church-Missouri Synod    Selected books, bargains, etc.    
   My #3 is:   Roman Catholic Church    Selected books, bargains, etc.    
   My #4 is:   Evangelical Lutheran Church    Selected books, bargains, etc.    
   My #5 is:   Seventh-Day Adventist    Selected books, bargains, etc.    
   My #6 is:   International Church of Christ    Selected books, bargains, etc.    
   My #7 is:   United Pentecostal Church    Selected books, bargains, etc.    
   My #8 is:   Assemblies of God    Selected books, bargains, etc.    
   My #9 is:   Church of Christ    Selected books, bargains, etc.    
   My #10 is:   Episcopal/Anglican Church    Selected books, bargains, etc.    
   My #11 is:   Mennonite Brethren    Selected books, bargains, etc.    
   My #12 is:   Methodist/Wesleyan Church    Selected books, bargains, etc.    
   My #13 is:   Presbyterian Church in America/Orthodox Presbyterian Church    Selected books, bargains, etc.    
   My #14 is:   Reformed Churches    Selected books, bargains, etc.    
   My #15 is:   Southern Baptist    Selected books, bargains, etc.    
   My #16 is:   Free Will Baptist    Selected books, bargains, etc.    
   My #17 is:   Orthodox Quakerism    Selected books, bargains, etc.    
   My #18 is:   Presbyterian Church USA    Selected books, bargains, etc.    
   My #19 is:   Reformed Baptist    Selected books, bargains, etc.    
   My #20 is:   Mormonism    Selected books, bargains, etc.    
   My #21 is:   Jehovah's Witness    Selected books, bargains, etc.    
   My #22 is:   Liberal Quakerism    Selected books, bargains, etc.    
   My #23 is:   Unity Church    Selected books, bargains, etc.    
   My #24 is:   Unitarian Universalism    Selected books, bargains, etc.

PS: Lutheran in the second place ?!?!?     Me ?!?!?!? 

[Tzimis]

     

Infallible authority in faith is invested in a single person (or few/many people)

I checked No Preference how about you?  I though there was a catch to this question.

   My #1 is:   Eastern Orthodox Church       
   My #2 is:   Roman Catholic Church       
   My #3 is:   Lutheran Church-Missouri Synod        
   My #4 is:   Evangelical Lutheran Church       
   My #5 is:   Episcopal/Anglican Church       
   My #6 is:   International Church of Christ        
   My #7 is:   Methodist/Wesleyan Church       
   My #8 is:   Church of Christ       
   My #9 is:   Presbyterian Church in America/Orthodox Presbyterian Church   
   My #10 is:   Reformed Churches      
   My #11 is:   United Pentecostal Church       
   My #12 is:   Assemblies of God       
   My #13 is:   Mennonite Brethren       
   My #14 is:   Mormonism   
   My #15 is:   Free Will Baptist       
   My #16 is:   Presbyterian Church USA        
   My #17 is:   Orthodox Quakerism       
   My #18 is:   Reformed Baptist   
   My #19 is:   Southern Baptist       
   My #20 is:   Seventh-Day Adventist   
   My #21 is:   Jehovah's Witness   
   My #22 is:   Liberal Quakerism       
   My #23 is:   Unity Church   
   My #24 is:   Unitarian Universalism

[ialmisry]

   I wasn't able to use the prioritizing function on this stupid iPhone, but here's what I got.

My #1 is:   Eastern Orthodox Church    Selected books, bargains, etc.   
   My #2 is:   Lutheran Church-Missouri Synod    Selected books, bargains, etc.   
   My #3 is:   Roman Catholic Church    Selected books, bargains, etc.   
   My #4 is:   Evangelical Lutheran Church    Selected books, bargains, etc.   
   My #5 is:   International Church of Christ    Selected books, bargains, etc.   
   My #6 is:   Church of Christ    Selected books, bargains, etc.   
   My #7 is:   Episcopal/Anglican Church    Selected books, bargains, etc.   
   My #8 is:   Methodist/Wesleyan Church    Selected books, bargains, etc.   
   My #9 is:   United Pentecostal Church    Selected books, bargains, etc.   
   My #10 is:   Assemblies of God    Selected books, bargains, etc.   

That's a shame, the prioritizing function is one of the intriguing elements of this quiz as to its accuracy. Btw, I disagreed on "Infallible authority in faith is invested in a single person (or few/many people)" and put it on highest priority, and "Roman Catholic" still came up almost equal to Eastern Orthodox.

[Punch]

Orthodox, Missouri Synod Lutheran (Grandpa would be pleased), Evangelical Lutheran, Catholic.

You really didn't stand a chance.

Lutheran Church - Missouri Synod, Eastern Orthodox Church, Evangelical Lutheran Church, Roman Catholic.

I guess I'm still a heretic at heart.

[Punch]

There's hope for you yet!

How did you score?

[Papist]

My shocking results (And I have no idea which question lead to this):
1. Eastern Orthodox
2. Roman Catholic
3. Lutheran Church - Missouri Synod
4. Evangelical Lutheran Church
5. International Church of Christ
6. Mormonism
7. Church of Christ
8. Episcopal Anglican Church
9. Methodist/Wesleyan Church
10. United Pentacostal Church
ETC.

[ag_vn]

   My #1 is:   Eastern Orthodox Church
   My #2 is:   Lutheran Church-Missouri Synod     
   My #3 is:   Evangelical Lutheran Church      
   My #4 is:   Roman Catholic Church     
   My #5 is:   Church of Christ       
   My #6 is:   Episcopal/Anglican Church   
   My #7 is:   International Church of Christ        
   My #8 is:   Methodist/Wesleyan Church       
   My #9 is:   Assemblies of God      
   My #10 is:   Free Will Baptist      
   My #11 is:   United Pentecostal Church        
   My #12 is:   Mennonite Brethren       
   My #13 is:   Mormonism        
   My #14 is:   Presbyterian Church in America/Orthodox Presbyterian Church   
   My #15 is:   Reformed Churches   
   My #16 is:   Seventh-Day Adventist    .    
   My #17 is:   Southern Baptist   
   My #18 is:   Orthodox Quakerism   
   My #19 is:   Presbyterian Church USA   
   My #20 is:   Reformed Baptist   
   My #21 is:   Jehovah's Witness   
   My #22 is:   Liberal Quakerism     
   My #23 is:   Unitarian Universalism   
   My #24 is:   Unity Church

[Fr. George]

I'm not surprised by the results; I think (a) the answers to most questions will separate Prot from RC/EO, (b) some questions where EO and RC do actually agree were probably stereotyped toward one (EO in this case), and (c) they didn't touch on nearly enough topics to discern between EO and RC.

Oh, as for results, Orthodox came up as #1 for me.

[Punch]

Oh, as for results, Orthodox came up as #1 for me.

Well I am certainly glad of that!

[Papist]

I'm not surprised by the results; I think (a) the answers to most questions will separate Prot from RC/EO, (b) some questions where EO and RC do actually agree were probably stereotyped toward one (EO in this case), and (c) they didn't touch on nearly enough topics to discern between EO and RC.

Oh, as for results, Orthodox came up as #1 for me.

Makes sense. I looked through the questions and couldn't find one that would really distinguish between EO/RC.

[scamandrius]

There's hope for you yet!

How did you score?

The first time I took it, the test said I was slightly more Roman Catholic than Orthodox.  I went back at the test and noticed I had not answered a question that was about the infallability of the pope.  Once I answered that question, in Orthodox fashion, the quiz said I should be 1) Orthodox 2) Lutheran-Mo Synod 3) Roman Catholic.  I never knew my Orthodoxy was suspect but I really wanted to be sure for some reason!

[Pravoslavbob]

   My #1 is:   Eastern Orthodox Church    Selected books, bargains, etc.    
   My #2 is:   Evangelical Lutheran Church    Selected books, bargains, etc.    
   My #3 is:   Lutheran Church-Missouri Synod    Selected books, bargains, etc.    
   My #4 is:   Roman Catholic Church    Selected books, bargains, etc.    
   My #5 is:   Episcopal/Anglican Church    Selected books, bargains, etc.    
   My #6 is:   Methodist/Wesleyan Church    Selected books, bargains, etc.    
   My #7 is:   International Church of Christ    Selected books, bargains, etc.    
   My #8 is:   Seventh-Day Adventist    Selected books, bargains, etc.    
   My #9 is:   United Pentecostal Church    Selected books, bargains, etc.    
   My #10 is:   Assemblies of God    Selected books, bargains, etc.    
   My #11 is:   Church of Christ    Selected books, bargains, etc.    
   My #12 is:   Free Will Baptist    Selected books, bargains, etc.    
   My #13 is:   Mennonite Brethren    Selected books, bargains, etc.    
   My #14 is:   Mormonism    Selected books, bargains, etc.    
   My #15 is:   Presbyterian Church USA    Selected books, bargains, etc.    
   My #16 is:   Presbyterian Church in America/Orthodox Presbyterian Church    Selected books, bargains, etc.    
   My #17 is:   Reformed Churches    Selected books, bargains, etc.    
   My #18 is:   Southern Baptist    Selected books, bargains, etc.    
   My #19 is:   Orthodox Quakerism    Selected books, bargains, etc.    
   My #20 is:   Reformed Baptist    Selected books, bargains, etc.    
   My #21 is:   Jehovah's Witness    Selected books, bargains, etc.    
   My #22 is:   Liberal Quakerism    Selected books, bargains, etc.    
   My #23 is:   Unitarian Universalism    Selected books, bargains, etc.    
   My #24 is:   Unity Church    Selected books, bargains, etc.    

[ialmisry]

My shocking results (And I have no idea which question lead to this):
1. Eastern Orthodox
2. Roman Catholic
3. Lutheran Church - Missouri Synod
4. Evangelical Lutheran Church
5. International Church of Christ
6. Mormonism
7. Church of Christ
8. Episcopal Anglican Church
9. Methodist/Wesleyan Church
10. United Pentacostal Church
ETC.

LOL. How different were the bars for # 1 and 2?

[Punch]

There's hope for you yet!

How did you score?

The first time I took it, the test said I was slightly more Roman Catholic than Orthodox.  I went back at the test and noticed I had not answered a question that was about the infallability of the pope.  Once I answered that question, in Orthodox fashion, the quiz said I should be 1) Orthodox 2) Lutheran-Mo Synod 3) Roman Catholic.  I never knew my Orthodoxy was suspect but I really wanted to be sure for some reason!

I didn’t doubt your Orthodoxy, I was just wondering if your #2 leaned more to the RC or the Lutheran.  I wonder which question exposed me as a partially repented Lutheran . . .

[Jeff]

That was fun!

   My #1 is:   Eastern Orthodox Church        
   My #2 is:   Roman Catholic Church       
   My #3 is:   Lutheran Church-Missouri Synod       
   My #4 is:   Evangelical Lutheran Church        
   My #5 is:   Methodist/Wesleyan Church       
   My #6 is:   Assemblies of God   

Interesting how this list, if read from the bottom up, displays my path from protestantism to Orthodoxy!  The only difference is #'s 4 & 5 would have combined into Episcopalian.

[Agia Marina]

Christian Denomination Selector
   My #1 is:   Eastern Orthodox Church    
   My #2 is:   Roman Catholic Church       
   My #3 is:   Lutheran Church-Missouri Synod     
   My #4 is:   Evangelical Lutheran Church      
   My #5 is:   International Church of Christ      
   My #6 is:   Mormonism    What?
   My #7 is:   Episcopal/Anglican Church       
   My #8 is:   Church of Christ   
   My #9 is:   Methodist/Wesleyan Church   
   My #10 is:   United Pentecostal Church        
   My #11 is:   Free Will Baptist       
   My #12 is:   Assemblies of God   
   My #13 is:   Mennonite Brethren   
   My #14 is:   Presbyterian Church in America/Orthodox Presbyterian Church      
   My #15 is:   Reformed Churches   
   My #16 is:   Southern Baptist   
   My #17 is:   Orthodox Quakerism        
   My #18 is:   Seventh-Day Adventist       
   My #19 is:   Presbyterian Church USA       
   My #20 is:   Reformed Baptist   
   My #21 is:   Jehovah's Witness      
   My #22 is:   Unitarian Universalism    
   My #23 is:   Unity Church       
   My #24 is:   Liberal Quakerism      

[Papist]

My shocking results (And I have no idea which question lead to this):
1. Eastern Orthodox
2. Roman Catholic
3. Lutheran Church - Missouri Synod
4. Evangelical Lutheran Church
5. International Church of Christ
6. Mormonism
7. Church of Christ
8. Episcopal Anglican Church
9. Methodist/Wesleyan Church
10. United Pentacostal Church
ETC.

LOL. How different were the bars for # 1 and 2?

Extermely close. Now that I am looking back at it, they appear to be identical. Also, I reviewed the questions, and perhaps the one question that put me over as Eastern Orthodox was that I agreed that Infants can receive communion.

[Carl Kraeff (Second Chance)]

My top 10 were (with a rough percentage for the graph positions):

My #1 is:   Eastern Orthodox Church (100%)     
My #2 is:   Roman Catholic Church    (95%)
My #3 is:   Lutheran Church-Missouri Synod (80%)
My #4 is:   Evangelical Lutheran Church (70%)
My #5 is:   International Church of Christ (60%)   
My #6 is:   United Pentecostal Church (55%)   
My #7 is:   Episcopal/Anglican Church (50%)   
My #8 is:   Church of Christ (40%)
My #9 is:   Methodist/Wesleyan Church (40%)   
My #10 is:   Assemblies of God (30%)

[Tzimis]

Oh, as for results, Orthodox came up as #1 for me.

I should hope so father!!! I should hope that the devil hasn't gotten into the program?

[John Larocque]

My scores were almost equal between EO, Lutheran Missouri Synod and RCC. What surprised me is that RC was in third place with the Lutherans slightly ahead in #2. (I haven't figured out the % figurse). Out of curiosity, I looked up the MS and it turns out they are theologically conservative (sole scriptura through the lens of the Book of Concord), with closed communion cup except for those who adhere to their theology, anti-ecumenist outlook etc... they aren't even in communion with many of the other Lutheran churches in America. They suspended a pastor for praying with heretics at an ecumenical 9/11 prayer service in which +Demetrios offered a blessing.

[Fr. David]

EO-->RC-->LCMS-->ELCA...the rest, marginal.

I'm w/EVOO, though...how in the world did Mormonism come up before Episcopalian?!

[biro]

That surprised me as well. 

[Tallitot]

I came up as a Quaker, which dost not vex me muchley.

[Tallitot]

EO-->RC-->LCMS-->ELCA...the rest, marginal.

I'm w/EVOO, though...how in the world did Mormonism come up before Episcopalian?!

Because Mormons would probably answer similairly to the question about women clergy and sources of authority to EO's, Episcopalians wouldn't.

[stanley123]

    My #2 is: Roman Catholic Church    Selected books, bargains, etc.   
Many will be shocked that the bar was almost equal to my #1
 

Does this mean that you are a closet Roman Catholic?

[stanley123]

My results:
But bars of #1 and #2 were the same length:
My #1 is: Eastern Orthodox Church    Selected books, bargains, etc.   
  My #2 is: Roman Catholic Church    Selected books, bargains, etc.   
  My #3 is: Lutheran Church-Missouri Synod    Selected books, bargains, etc.   
  My #4 is: Evangelical Lutheran Church    Selected books, bargains, etc.   
  My #5 is: Mormonism    Selected books, bargains, etc.   
  My #6 is: Episcopal/Anglican Church    Selected books, bargains, etc.   
  My #7 is: Church of Christ    Selected books, bargains, etc.   
  My #8 is: Methodist/Wesleyan Church    Selected books, bargains, etc.   
  My #9 is: Presbyterian Church in America/Orthodox Presbyterian Church    Selected books, bargains, etc.   
  My #10 is: Reformed Churches    Selected books, bargains, etc.   
  My #11 is: Southern Baptist    Selected books, bargains, etc.   
  My #12 is: International Church of Christ    Selected books, bargains, etc.   
  My #13 is: Mennonite Brethren    Selected books, bargains, etc.   
  My #14 is: Free Will Baptist    Selected books, bargains, etc.   
  My #15 is: Presbyterian Church USA    Selected books, bargains, etc.   
  My #16 is: Reformed Baptist    Selected books, bargains, etc.   
  My #17 is: Orthodox Quakerism    Selected books, bargains, etc.   
  My #18 is: Assemblies of God    Selected books, bargains, etc.   
  My #19 is: United Pentecostal Church    Selected books, bargains, etc.   
  My #20 is: Seventh-Day Adventist    Selected books, bargains, etc.   
  My #21 is: Jehovah's Witness    Selected books, bargains, etc.   
  My #22 is: Liberal Quakerism    Selected books, bargains, etc.   
  My #23 is: Unitarian Universalism    Selected books, bargains, etc.   
  My #24 is: Unity Church    Selected books, bargains

[MyMapleStory]

My #1 is:   Eastern Orthodox Church     Selected books, bargains, etc.     
   My #2 is:   Roman Catholic Church    Selected books, bargains, etc.    
   My #3 is:   Lutheran Church-Missouri Synod    Selected books, bargains, etc.    
   My #4 is:   Evangelical Lutheran Church    Selected books, bargains, etc.    
   My #5 is:   Episcopal/Anglican Church    Selected books, bargains, etc.    
   My #6 is:   Methodist/Wesleyan Church    Selected books, bargains, etc.

The episocopal place weirded me out a bit/ perhaps its the conservatice branch.

[celticfan1888]

Bringing this thread from the grave:

1 )  Orthodox Catholic (I hate the term EO)
2 )  Roman Catholic
3 )  Lutheran - Missouri
4 )  Evangelical Lutheran
5 )  Episcopal/Anglican Church
6 )  Methodist
7 )  Church of Christ
8 )  Free Will Baptist
9 )  International Church of Christ
10 )  Assemblies of God
etc, etc.

[kevlev]

Can we can some sort of Severian revivification started for this thread, pronto? Seems such an awful shame to let these sugary treats wither in obscurity. . .

My diagnosis:
1. Eastern Orthodox Church (100%)  [Home, sweet home]
2. Roman Catholic Church (90%)  [Very close, as it was in real life. Where I would've ended up if Orthodoxy hadn't been an option; seriously, much respect to the RCs]
3. Lutheran Church-Missouri Synod (86%)  [I'd rather not "put Jimmy in the oven"]
4. Evangelical Lutheran Church (76%)  [Meeh]
5. Episcopal/Anglican Church (66%)   [Perhaps an Anglo-Catholic church]
6. Mormonism (60%)   [The youtube propaganda must be working]
7. Methodist/Wesleyan Church (56%)   [My childhood church! I adore John Wesley. If I were to go back to Protestantism, it would likely be to a church within the Wesleyan tradition]
8. Church of Christ (56%)   [No. No. No.]
9. International Church of Christ (56%)   [The whole world over: no, no, no]
10. United Pentecostal Church (56%)   [I just can't stomach the charismatic movement]
11. Mennonite Brethren(46%)   [Integrity written all over it]
12. Free Will Baptist (46%)   [I'll choose to pass this one over]
13. Assemblies of God (46%)      
14. Presbyterian Church in America/Orthodox Presbyterian Church (40%)
15. Reformed Churches (40%)   [Not elected]
16. Orthodox Quakerism (36%)   [The Quakers have always fascinated me]
17. Seventh-Day Adventist (36%)      
18. Southern Baptist (36%)   [Huh. I'm surprised I didn't score higher with these guys]
19. Presbyterian Church USA (30%)      
20. Reformed Baptist (30%)      
21. Jehovah's Witness (20%)   [There are just too many interesting cults to settle for the position of glorified door-to-door salesman]
22. Liberal Quakerism (10%)
23. Unitarian Universalism (4%)
24. Unity Church (0%)  

Good test; fun times. It's also nice to find a thread where folks aren't bashing their former faiths in the extreme. I get rather irked when I see converts constantly portraying Protestantism as completely anemic. There are some stunning expressions of faith to be found in these traditions; not nearly as much so as in Orthodoxy, granted, but still oases in their own right. I love and am thankful for my Protestant past, but I look forward to a future, God willing, in the Church.

Also: does anyone know along what lines the various Hussite churches would fall in such a quiz?

[TheMathematician]

Link: Christian Denomination Selector
          Lutheran Church-Missouri Synod (100%)      


         Evangelical Lutheran Church (94%)      


         Eastern Orthodox Church (92%)      


         Roman Catholic Church (79%)      


         Episcopal/Anglican Church (74%)      


         Methodist/Wesleyan Church (74%)      


         Church of Christ (72%)      


         International Church of Christ (66%)      


         Free Will Baptist (64%)      


         Presbyterian Church in America/Orthodox Presbyterian Church (61%)      


         Reformed Churches (61%)      


         United Pentecostal Church (59%)      


         Assemblies of God (57%)      


         Mennonite Brethren (57%)      


         Southern Baptist (57%)      


         Presbyterian Church USA (55%)      


         Mormonism (50%)      


         Orthodox Quakerism (50%)      


         Reformed Baptist (50%)      


         Seventh-Day Adventist (44%)      


         Jehovah's Witness (27%)      


         Liberal Quakerism (7%)      


         Unitarian Universalism (0%)      


         Unity Church (0%)      

[Severian]

Mine was Eastern Orthodoxy with a 100% match!

[Deborah]

Well, that was a fun and very revealing quiz!  I thought Orthodox would come out on top, though I wasn't expecting a 100% match!  I'm even more surprised that Roman Catholic rated at 100% as I answered negative to one question based on a key RC doctrine.  The denom I'm currently affiliated with only rated in the fifties.

Eastern Orthodox Church (100%)      
Roman Catholic Church (100%)      
Lutheran Church-Missouri Synod (97%)      
Evangelical Lutheran Church (91%)      
International Church of Christ (79%)      
Episcopal/Anglican Church (77%)      
Methodist/Wesleyan Church (77%)      
United Pentecostal Church (75%)      
Assemblies of God (73%)      
Church of Christ (73%)      
Seventh-Day Adventist (71%)      
Free Will Baptist (68%)      
Mennonite Brethren (68%)      
Mormonism (68%)      
Orthodox Quakerism (59%)      
Southern Baptist (59%)      
Presbyterian Church in America/Orthodox Presbyterian Church (55%)      
Reformed Churches (55%)      
Presbyterian Church USA (50%)      
Reformed Baptist (50%)      
Jehovah's Witness (31%)      
Liberal Quakerism (11%)      
Unitarian Universalism (0%)      
Unity Church (0%)      

[kevlev]

Well, that was a fun and very revealing thread!   I thought I would come out with Orthodox on top.  I wasn't expecting a 100% match though!  I'm even more surprised that Roman Catholic rated as 100% as I answered negative to one question based on a key RC doctrine.  The denom I'm currently affiliated with only rated at 50%.

"Gooble, gobble! We accept her, one of us!"

[WeldeMikael]

Eastern Orthodox Church (100%)       
   
Lutheran Church-Missouri Synod (82%)       
   
Roman Catholic Church (82%)  


heh  

though the Lutheran Church surprises me    

[mabsoota]

interesting quiz.
 

these were my top 6:
Orthodox Church (100%)
Lutheran Church-Missouri Synod (92%)      
Evangelical Lutheran Church (86%)      
Roman Catholic Church (86%)   
Episcopal/Anglican Church (72%)      
Methodist/Wesleyan Church (69%)      

i have edited the top one, as they didn't distinguish between different orthodox churches, so nor will i.
i included methodist as this was my 1st church as a small child. i think i would have scored higher if it had been a british quiz coz the brits got john wesley who was arminian (not too far from the orthodox doctrine) and the americans got whitfield (sorry, forgot his 1st name) who was a calvinist.

i hope no one actually uses it to decide which church to go too!
that would be very nerdy to trust the computer...
 

[Asteriktos]

i hope no one actually uses it to decide which church to go too!
that would be very nerdy to trust the computer...

"Computers have always impressed me by their ability to take orders; I'm not at all as certain about their ability to give them." - William T. Riker 

[kevlev]

i hope no one actually uses it to decide which church to go too!
that would be very nerdy to trust the computer...

"Computers have always impressed me by their ability to take orders; I'm not at all as certain about their ability to give them." - William T. Riker  

 
Agreed,
although I have actually heard of people inquiring into Orthodoxy because of quizzes like this.

[WeldeMikael]

Eastern Orthodox Church (100%)       
   
Lutheran Church-Missouri Synod (95%)       
   
Roman Catholic Church (91%)   


With the priorities 

[Deborah]

Well, that was a fun and very revealing thread!   I thought I would come out with Orthodox on top.  I wasn't expecting a 100% match though!  I'm even more surprised that Roman Catholic rated as 100% as I answered negative to one question based on a key RC doctrine.  The denom I'm currently affiliated with only rated at 50%.

"Gooble, gobble! We accept her, one of us!"

  Thanks Kevlev...I think
um...what am I being welcomed into exactly?  It doesn't resemble any Orthodox church I've encountered
Help?

BTW, what film was that still taken from?  Looks creepy...

lol...Thanks for the welcome!

[Agia Marina]

My hubby, who is a lapsed Roman Catholic, and not Eastern Orthodox, rated 100% EO in the quiz. 

[orthonorm]

Well, that was a fun and very revealing thread!   I thought I would come out with Orthodox on top.  I wasn't expecting a 100% match though!  I'm even more surprised that Roman Catholic rated as 100% as I answered negative to one question based on a key RC doctrine.  The denom I'm currently affiliated with only rated at 50%.

"Gooble, gobble! We accept her, one of us!"

  Thanks Kevlev...I think
um...what am I being welcomed into exactly?  It doesn't resemble any Orthodox church I've encountered
Help?

BTW, what film was that still taken from?  Looks creepy...

lol...Thanks for the welcome!

You've never seen Freaks?

Weird . . .

[Asteriktos]

Eastern Orthodox Church (100%)            
Roman Catholic Church (88%)            
Lutheran Church-Missouri Synod (80%)            
Evangelical Lutheran Church (77%)            
Episcopal/Anglican Church (73%)  

[FormerReformer]

I'll bite this time around:


          Eastern Orthodox Church (100%)      


         Lutheran Church-Missouri Synod (96%)      


         Roman Catholic Church (96%)      


         Evangelical Lutheran Church (86%)      


         International Church of Christ (80%)      


         Episcopal/Anglican Church (75%)      


         United Pentecostal Church (75%)      


         Assemblies of God (73%)      


         Church of Christ (73%)      


         Mennonite Brethren (73%)      


         Methodist/Wesleyan Church (69%)      


         Free Will Baptist (67%)      


         Orthodox Quakerism (67%)      


         Seventh-Day Adventist (63%)      


         Southern Baptist (61%)      


         Mormonism (59%)      


         Presbyterian Church in America/Orthodox Presbyterian Church (59%)      


         Reformed Churches (59%)      


         Reformed Baptist (53%)      


         Presbyterian Church USA (48%)      


         Jehovah's Witness (30%)      


         Liberal Quakerism (19%)      


         Unitarian Universalism (7%)      


         Unity Church (0%)   

[Severian]

Specifically, my top 5 results were...


Orthodox Church (100%)      


Lutheran Church-Missouri Synod (92%)      


Evangelical Lutheran Church (84%)      


Roman Catholic Church (84%)      


Episcopal/Anglican Church (75%)      

[Severian]

   

Specifically, my top 5 results were...


Orthodox Church (100%)      


Lutheran Church-Missouri Synod (92%)      


Evangelical Lutheran Church (84%)      


Roman Catholic Church (84%)      


Episcopal/Anglican Church (75%)      

With the priorities set, my results were:

    Orthodox Church (100%)
             
    Lutheran Church-Missouri Synod (91%)
           
    Roman Catholic Church (84%)
             
    Evangelical Lutheran Church (82%)
             
    Episcopal/Anglican Church (73%)   
         
    Church of Christ (64%)
           
    Methodist/Wesleyan Church (64%)
           
    International Church of Christ (57%)
           
    Free Will Baptist (55%)
           
    Mennonite Brethren (55%)
             
    Assemblies of God (48%) 
           
    Mormonism (48%)           
 
    Orthodox Quakerism (46%) 
           
    Presbyterian Church in America/Orthodox Presbyterian Church (46%)
           
    Reformed Churches (46%)
           
    Southern Baptist (46%)     
       
    United Pentecostal Church (40%)
             
    Seventh-Day Adventist (39%)
           
    Presbyterian Church USA (37%)
           
    Reformed Baptist (37%) 
           
    Jehovah's Witness (11%)
           
    Liberal Quakerism (10%) 
           
    Unitarian Universalism (0%)
             
    Unity Church (0%)     

[ZealousZeal]

My top 5:

1. Eastern Orthodox (100%)
2. Lutheran Church- Missouri Synod (100%)
3. Evangelical Lutheran Church (93%)
4. Roman Catholic (85%)
5. Church of Christ (77%)

I'll retake it when I'm at a laptop. I just did it on my iPad so I couldn't adjust the bars on importance. I'm curious to see how that affects my results.

[sheenj]

1.   Eastern Orthodox Church (100%)      
2.   Lutheran Church-Missouri Synod (95%)      
3.   Evangelical Lutheran Church (93%)      
4.   Episcopal/Anglican Church (83%)      
5.   Roman Catholic Church (83%)      
6.   Methodist/Wesleyan Church (72%)      
7.   Church of Christ (57%)      
8.   International Church of Christ (52%)      
9.   Mennonite Brethren (52%)      
10. Assemblies of God (49%)      
11. Free Will Baptist (49%)      
12. Seventh-Day Adventist (47%)      
13. Orthodox Quakerism (39%)      
14. United Pentecostal Church (39%)      
15. Presbyterian Church in America/Orthodox Presbyterian Church (36%)      
16. Reformed Churches (36%)      
17. Southern Baptist (36%)      
18. Presbyterian Church USA (34%)      
19. Mormonism (31%)      
20. Liberal Quakerism (29%)      
21. Reformed Baptist (24%)      
22. Unitarian Universalism (13%)      
23. Unity Church (6%)      
24. Jehovah's Witness (0%)

I'm actually really surprised that Roman Catholic was only 5th. I think it might have been because of the priority sliders.

[TheMathematician]

it's interesting to see that LCMS is really high, mostly second, on almost everyone's results

[Nephi]

Eastern Orthodox Church (100%)      
Lutheran Church-Missouri Synod (88%)      
Roman Catholic Church (86%)      
Evangelical Lutheran Church (79%)      
Episcopal/Anglican Church (71%)      

This is also an interesting religious quiz that is much more indepth:
http://www.beliefnet.com/Entertainment/Quizzes/BeliefOMatic.aspx

And my scores for the one I just linked...
Eastern Orthodox (100%)
Roman Catholic (100%)
Mainline to Conservative Christian/Protestant (89%)
Orthodox Quaker (85%)
Seventh Day Adventist (85%)
Mainline to Liberal Christian Protestants (61%)
Orthodox Judaism (56%)
Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints (Mormons) (54%)

[stavros_388]

1) Eastern Orthodox Church (100%)      
2) Lutheran Church-Missouri Synod (89%)      
3) Evangelical Lutheran Church (78%)      
4) Roman Catholic Church (75%)      
5) Episcopal/Anglican Church (71%)      


      

[mabsoota]

yeah, maybe the site admin is from LCMS and wants to make the point that that church is 'orthodox'.

[christian7777]

1. Eastern Orthodox Church (100%)
2. Lutheran Church-Missouri Synod (93%)
3. Roman Catholic Church (93%)
4. Evangelical Lutheran Church (85%)
5. Methodist/Wesleyan Church (77%)

[WeldeMikael]

Your Top 3 Faith Match Profiles Are:
1. Eastern Orthodox (100%)
2. Roman Catholic (100%)
3. Orthodox Quaker (98%)


Aye 

[Basil 320]

Eastern Orthodox 100%
Lutheran Church Missouri Synod 100%
Roman Catholic 100%  So how can I be 100% Roman Catholic if I did not agree that authority is vested in one  person or a group of people?

[WeldeMikael]

Eastern Orthodox 100%
Lutheran Church Missouri Synod 100%
Roman Catholic 100%  So how can I be 100% Roman Catholic if I did not agree that authority is vested in one  person or a group of people?

In this quiz, I'm sure if you have an Orthodox majority you will have a Catholic majority too.

[Nephi]

Eastern Orthodox 100%
Lutheran Church Missouri Synod 100%
Roman Catholic 100%  So how can I be 100% Roman Catholic if I did not agree that authority is vested in one  person or a group of people?

Yeah that quiz seems badly designed...

[stanley123]

Eastern Orthodox 100%
Lutheran Church Missouri Synod 100%
Roman Catholic 100%  So how can I be 100% Roman Catholic if I did not agree that authority is vested in one  person or a group of people?

Yeah that quiz seems badly designed...

They need to add a couple of more questions to distinguish better between EO and RC.
For example:
1. Do you agree that the Holy Spirit proceeds from the Father and from the Son?
2. Do you believe in Purgatory?
3. Do you agree with playing instrumental music, such as organ music, during Church services?

[William]

My top 5 results:

1. Eastern Orthodox Church - 100%
2. LCMS - 97%
3. RCC - 97%
4. ELC - 92% (Not really seeing how I agree 92% with such a liberal denomination)
5. Episcopal - 83% (ditto)

it's interesting to see that LCMS is really high, mostly second, on almost everyone's results

If they had had a "Do you hate Martin Luther?" question, I'm sure my Lutheran score would have been lower.

[William]

So I took it again roleplaying as the opposite of myself (basically extremely liberal theologically):

1. Unitarian Universalism (100%)      
2. Unity Church (89%)      
3. Liberal Quakerism (78%)      
4. Seventh-Day Adventist (45%)      
5. Assemblies of God (23%)   
...
14. Eastern Orthodox Church (12%)
...
23. Roman Catholic Church (0%)

[Basil 320]

Eastern Orthodox 100%
Lutheran Church Missouri Synod 100%
Roman Catholic 100%  So how can I be 100% Roman Catholic if I did not agree that authority is vested in one  person or a group of people?

Yeah that quiz seems badly designed...

They need to add a couple of more questions to distinguish better between EO and RC.
For example:
1. Do you agree that the Holy Spirit proceeds from the Father and from the Son?
2. Do you believe in Purgatory?
3. Do you agree with playing instrumental music, such as organ music, during Church services?

Thanks for the replies and information.

"stanley123's" questions 1 & 2 would make the difference, I know this reply by "stanley123" was written seriously, and is a serious question, but question 1 made me laugh.

However, being in the GOAA, question "3" might not necessarily distinguish the Eastern Orthodox from Roman Catholics, not that I don't understand it to be a canonical matter.

[Achronos]

Uh oh. I answered "One must be saved by a specific Church" so I guess that's why...

Roman Catholic Church (100%)       
   
         Eastern Orthodox Church (95%)       
   
         Lutheran Church-Missouri Synod (65%)       
   
         Episcopal/Anglican Church (57%)       
   
         Mormonism (57%)       
   
         International Church of Christ (55%)       
   
         Evangelical Lutheran Church (52%)       
   
         Church of Christ (41%)       
   
         Mennonite Brethren (41%)       
   
         Methodist/Wesleyan Church (36%)       
   
         Free Will Baptist (33%)       
   
         Orthodox Quakerism (33%)       
   
         United Pentecostal Church (28%)       
   
         Assemblies of God (19%)       
   
         Jehovah's Witness (19%)       
   
         Liberal Quakerism (19%)       
   
         Seventh-Day Adventist (19%)       
   
         Southern Baptist (19%)       
   
         Unity Church (19%)       
   
         Presbyterian Church in America/Orthodox Presbyterian Church (14%)       
   
         Reformed Churches (14%)       
   
         Reformed Baptist (6%)       
   
         Unitarian Universalism (6%)       
   
         Presbyterian Church USA (0%)   

[stanley123]

Eastern Orthodox 100%
Lutheran Church Missouri Synod 100%
Roman Catholic 100%  So how can I be 100% Roman Catholic if I did not agree that authority is vested in one  person or a group of people?

Yeah that quiz seems badly designed...

They need to add a couple of more questions to distinguish better between EO and RC.
For example:
1. Do you agree that the Holy Spirit proceeds from the Father and from the Son?
2. Do you believe in Purgatory?
3. Do you agree with playing instrumental music, such as organ music, during Church services?

Thanks for the replies and information.

"stanley123's" questions 1 & 2 would make the difference, I know this reply by "stanley123" was written seriously, and is a serious question, but question 1 made me laugh.

However, being in the GOAA, question "3" might not necessarily distinguish the Eastern Orthodox from Roman Catholics, not that I don't understand it to be a canonical matter.

I am not sure why question 1 would make you laugh except that an EO would phrase the question differently - say 1 (EO) Do you agree that the Holy Spirit proceeds from the Father alone and not from the Father and from the Son.
Anyway, here are a few more questions which could be asked to distinguish between EO and RC:
Do you agree, disagree or no opinion on the following:
4. The Roman Pope is the infallible head of the Church.
5. There is a clear distinction between venial and mortal sin.
6. In making the sign of the cross, the righthand touches the left shoulder first, and the right shoulder after that.
RC would agree with 4,5,6; EO disagree. The questions could be worded differently if you wanted to set it up so that EO would agree (and RC disagree). For example:
4.(EO) There is no one person who is the infallible head of the Church.
5.(EO) There is no clear distinction between venial and mortal sin.
6. (EO)  In making the sign of the cross, the righthand touches the right shoulder first, and the left shoulder after that.
EO would agree with 4(EO), 5(EO), 6(EO).

[sheenj]

Eastern Orthodox 100%
Lutheran Church Missouri Synod 100%
Roman Catholic 100%  So how can I be 100% Roman Catholic if I did not agree that authority is vested in one  person or a group of people?

Yeah that quiz seems badly designed...

They need to add a couple of more questions to distinguish better between EO and RC.
For example:
1. Do you agree that the Holy Spirit proceeds from the Father and from the Son?
2. Do you believe in Purgatory?
3. Do you agree with playing instrumental music, such as organ music, during Church services?

Thanks for the replies and information.

"stanley123's" questions 1 & 2 would make the difference, I know this reply by "stanley123" was written seriously, and is a serious question, but question 1 made me laugh.

However, being in the GOAA, question "3" might not necessarily distinguish the Eastern Orthodox from Roman Catholics, not that I don't understand it to be a canonical matter.

6. In making the sign of the cross, the righthand touches the left shoulder first, and the right shoulder after that.

Dude, the sign of the cross is not a matter of Faith, it's a matter of Practice.
Besides, WRO and OO both do the sign of the cross from left to right.

[stanley123]

Eastern Orthodox 100%
Lutheran Church Missouri Synod 100%
Roman Catholic 100%  So how can I be 100% Roman Catholic if I did not agree that authority is vested in one  person or a group of people?

Yeah that quiz seems badly designed...

They need to add a couple of more questions to distinguish better between EO and RC.
For example:
1. Do you agree that the Holy Spirit proceeds from the Father and from the Son?
2. Do you believe in Purgatory?
3. Do you agree with playing instrumental music, such as organ music, during Church services?

Thanks for the replies and information.

"stanley123's" questions 1 & 2 would make the difference, I know this reply by "stanley123" was written seriously, and is a serious question, but question 1 made me laugh.

However, being in the GOAA, question "3" might not necessarily distinguish the Eastern Orthodox from Roman Catholics, not that I don't understand it to be a canonical matter.

6. In making the sign of the cross, the righthand touches the left shoulder first, and the right shoulder after that.

Dude, the sign of the cross is not a matter of Faith, it's a matter of Practice.
Besides, WRO and OO both do the sign of the cross from left to right.

Correct. It is just a question to be added to the others.
In Yugoslavia, when they wanted to see who was RC and who was EO, they would ask the boys to make the sign of the cross. That gave them their answer.

[sheenj]

Eastern Orthodox 100%
Lutheran Church Missouri Synod 100%
Roman Catholic 100%  So how can I be 100% Roman Catholic if I did not agree that authority is vested in one  person or a group of people?

Yeah that quiz seems badly designed...

They need to add a couple of more questions to distinguish better between EO and RC.
For example:
1. Do you agree that the Holy Spirit proceeds from the Father and from the Son?
2. Do you believe in Purgatory?
3. Do you agree with playing instrumental music, such as organ music, during Church services?

Thanks for the replies and information.

"stanley123's" questions 1 & 2 would make the difference, I know this reply by "stanley123" was written seriously, and is a serious question, but question 1 made me laugh.

However, being in the GOAA, question "3" might not necessarily distinguish the Eastern Orthodox from Roman Catholics, not that I don't understand it to be a canonical matter.

6. In making the sign of the cross, the righthand touches the left shoulder first, and the right shoulder after that.

Dude, the sign of the cross is not a matter of Faith, it's a matter of Practice.
Besides, WRO and OO both do the sign of the cross from left to right.

Correct. It is just a question to be added to the others.
In Yugoslavia, when they wanted to see who was RC and who was EO, they would ask the boys to make the sign of the cross. That gave them their answer.

You're still forgetting that some canonical EO cross themselves from Left to Right.

[Basil 320]

Yes, "stanley123," "I believe...in the Holy Spirit...Who proceeds from the Father," directly.  I laughed because the question goes right to the RC's jugular, the "filioque," controversy which is the symbol of what divides us.

[ialmisry]

  My #1 is: Eastern Orthodox Church    Selected books, bargains, etc.   
No suprise.
  My #2 is: Roman Catholic Church    Selected books, bargains, etc.   
Many will be shocked that the bar was almost equal to my #1
  My #3 is: Lutheran Church-Missouri Synod    Selected books, bargains, etc.   
  My #4 is: Evangelical Lutheran Church    Selected books, bargains, etc.   
I was baptized into this, but the parish I was in was more of the MO Synod mind (many went that route when the ELCA was formed and sent the parish a woman pastor. I was gone by then).
  My #5 is: International Church of Christ    Selected books, bargains, etc.   
Is this the Instrumental CC? I could see that.
  My #6 is: Episcopal/Anglican Church    Selected books, bargains, etc.   
Btw, the bar is about half way here.
  My #7 is: Mormonism    Selected books, bargains, etc.   
Eekh. Scary!
  My #8 is: Church of Christ    Selected books, bargains, etc.   
  My #9 is: Methodist/Wesleyan Church    Selected books, bargains, etc.   
  My #10 is: United Pentecostal Church    Selected books, bargains, etc.   
  My #11 is: Assemblies of God    Selected books, bargains, etc.   
  My #12 is: Free Will Baptist    Selected books, bargains, etc.   
  My #13 is: Mennonite Brethren    Selected books, bargains, etc.   
  My #14 is: Orthodox Quakerism    Selected books, bargains, etc.   
It is about a quarter here.
  My #15 is: Presbyterian Church in America/Orthodox Presbyterian Church    Selected books, bargains, etc.   
  My #16 is: Reformed Churches    Selected books, bargains, etc.   
  My #17 is: Seventh-Day Adventist    Selected books, bargains, etc.   
  My #18 is: Southern Baptist    Selected books, bargains, etc.   
  My #19 is: Presbyterian Church USA    Selected books, bargains, etc.   
Here it drops down to about a tenth.
  My #20 is: Reformed Baptist    Selected books, bargains, etc.   
  My #21 is: Jehovah's Witness    Selected books, bargains, etc. 
From here down it is negligible results.
  My #22 is: Liberal Quakerism    Selected books, bargains, etc.   
  My #23 is: Unitarian Universalism    Selected books, bargains, etc.   
  My #24 is:

   Eastern Orthodox Church (100%)      


         Roman Catholic Church (97%)      


         Lutheran Church-Missouri Synod (96%)      


         Evangelical Lutheran Church (91%)      


         International Church of Christ (76%)      


         Episcopal/Anglican Church (75%)      


         Methodist/Wesleyan Church (75%)      


         United Pentecostal Church (73%)      


         Church of Christ (71%)      


         Assemblies of God (68%)      


         Presbyterian Church in America/Orthodox Presbyterian Church (67%)      


         Reformed Churches (67%)      


         Mormonism (65%)      


         Seventh-Day Adventist (65%)      


         Free Will Baptist (63%)      


         Mennonite Brethren (63%)      


         Presbyterian Church USA (62%)      


         Reformed Baptist (59%)      


         Southern Baptist (59%)      


         Orthodox Quakerism (55%)      


         Jehovah's Witness (34%)      


         Liberal Quakerism (13%)      


         Unitarian Universalism (7%)      


         Unity Church (0%)

Not much change it seems. Which of course, is why I cling to Orthodoxy.

[stanley123]

Eastern Orthodox 100%
Lutheran Church Missouri Synod 100%
Roman Catholic 100%  So how can I be 100% Roman Catholic if I did not agree that authority is vested in one  person or a group of people?

Yeah that quiz seems badly designed...

They need to add a couple of more questions to distinguish better between EO and RC.
For example:
1. Do you agree that the Holy Spirit proceeds from the Father and from the Son?
2. Do you believe in Purgatory?
3. Do you agree with playing instrumental music, such as organ music, during Church services?

Thanks for the replies and information.

"stanley123's" questions 1 & 2 would make the difference, I know this reply by "stanley123" was written seriously, and is a serious question, but question 1 made me laugh.

However, being in the GOAA, question "3" might not necessarily distinguish the Eastern Orthodox from Roman Catholics, not that I don't understand it to be a canonical matter.

6. In making the sign of the cross, the righthand touches the left shoulder first, and the right shoulder after that.

Dude, the sign of the cross is not a matter of Faith, it's a matter of Practice.
Besides, WRO and OO both do the sign of the cross from left to right.

Correct. It is just a question to be added to the others.
In Yugoslavia, when they wanted to see who was RC and who was EO, they would ask the boys to make the sign of the cross. That gave them their answer.

You're still forgetting that some canonical EO cross themselves from Left to Right.

And of course, there are some Catholics (Eastern Catholics) who cross themselves from right to left. So that one question is not sufficient by itself to distinguish EO from RC in 100% of the time.

[sheenj]

Eastern Orthodox 100%
Lutheran Church Missouri Synod 100%
Roman Catholic 100%  So how can I be 100% Roman Catholic if I did not agree that authority is vested in one  person or a group of people?

Yeah that quiz seems badly designed...

They need to add a couple of more questions to distinguish better between EO and RC.
For example:
1. Do you agree that the Holy Spirit proceeds from the Father and from the Son?
2. Do you believe in Purgatory?
3. Do you agree with playing instrumental music, such as organ music, during Church services?

Thanks for the replies and information.

"stanley123's" questions 1 & 2 would make the difference, I know this reply by "stanley123" was written seriously, and is a serious question, but question 1 made me laugh.

However, being in the GOAA, question "3" might not necessarily distinguish the Eastern Orthodox from Roman Catholics, not that I don't understand it to be a canonical matter.

6. In making the sign of the cross, the righthand touches the left shoulder first, and the right shoulder after that.

Dude, the sign of the cross is not a matter of Faith, it's a matter of Practice.
Besides, WRO and OO both do the sign of the cross from left to right.

Correct. It is just a question to be added to the others.
In Yugoslavia, when they wanted to see who was RC and who was EO, they would ask the boys to make the sign of the cross. That gave them their answer.

You're still forgetting that some canonical EO cross themselves from Left to Right.

And of course, there are some Catholics (Eastern Catholics) who cross themselves from right to left. So that one question is not sufficient by itself to distinguish EO from RC in 100% of the time.

Which is exactly my point...

[stanley123]

Eastern Orthodox 100%
Lutheran Church Missouri Synod 100%
Roman Catholic 100%  So how can I be 100% Roman Catholic if I did not agree that authority is vested in one  person or a group of people?

Yeah that quiz seems badly designed...

They need to add a couple of more questions to distinguish better between EO and RC.
For example:
1. Do you agree that the Holy Spirit proceeds from the Father and from the Son?
2. Do you believe in Purgatory?
3. Do you agree with playing instrumental music, such as organ music, during Church services?

Thanks for the replies and information.

"stanley123's" questions 1 & 2 would make the difference, I know this reply by "stanley123" was written seriously, and is a serious question, but question 1 made me laugh.

However, being in the GOAA, question "3" might not necessarily distinguish the Eastern Orthodox from Roman Catholics, not that I don't understand it to be a canonical matter.

6. In making the sign of the cross, the righthand touches the left shoulder first, and the right shoulder after that.

Dude, the sign of the cross is not a matter of Faith, it's a matter of Practice.
Besides, WRO and OO both do the sign of the cross from left to right.

Correct. It is just a question to be added to the others.
In Yugoslavia, when they wanted to see who was RC and who was EO, they would ask the boys to make the sign of the cross. That gave them their answer.

You're still forgetting that some canonical EO cross themselves from Left to Right.

And of course, there are some Catholics (Eastern Catholics) who cross themselves from right to left. So that one question is not sufficient by itself to distinguish EO from RC in 100% of the time.

Which is exactly my point...

Of course, some answers could distinguish WRO from EO or Byzantine Catholics from RC.
But if you object,  we could always throw out the question. 

[Carl Kraeff (Second Chance)]

I took the second quiz as well.

"Your Top 3 Faith Match Profiles Are:
1. Eastern Orthodox (100%)
2. Roman Catholic (100%)
3. Mainline to Conservative Christian/Protestant (94%)"

[Deborah]

This is also an interesting religious quiz that is much more indepth:
http://www.beliefnet.com/Entertainment/Quizzes/BeliefOMatic.aspx

My results from the above quiz:

Eastern Orthodox (100%)
Roman Catholic (100%)
Mainline to Conservative Christian/Protestant (87%)
Seventh Day Adventist (80%)
Orthodox Quaker (74%)
Orthodox Judaism (62%)
Islam (53%)
Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints (Mormons) (51%)
Hinduism (50%)
Jehovah's Witness (49%)
Mainline to Liberal Christian Protestants (48%)
Sikhism (42%)
Baha'i Faith (35%)
Liberal Quakers (31%)
Jainism (26%)
Reform Judaism (23%)
Unitarian Universalism (22%)
Mahayana Buddhism (20%)
Christian Science (Church of Christ, Scientist) (19%)
Theravada Buddhism (19%)
Scientology (13%)
Neo-Pagan (12%)
Nontheist (11%)
New Thought (10%)
New Age (6%)
Secular Humanism (5%)
Taoism (2%)

[Severian]

This is also an interesting religious quiz that is much more indepth:
http://www.beliefnet.com/Entertainment/Quizzes/BeliefOMatic.aspx

I took it:

1. Orthodox Christian Church (100%)
2. Roman Catholic (100%)
3. Mainline to Conservative Protestant (91%)

Some of the questions were kind of ambiguous, though.

[CatherineBrigid]

Eastern Orthodox Church (100%)      

Lutheran Church-Missouri Synod (100%)      

Evangelical Lutheran Church (91%)      

Assemblies of God (82%)      


Methodist/Wesleyan Church (82%)      


Roman Catholic Church (82%)      


Church of Christ (73%)      


Episcopal/Anglican Church (73%)      


Free Will Baptist (73%)      


Presbyterian Church in America/Orthodox Presbyterian Church (73%)      


         Reformed Churches (73%)      


         Seventh-Day Adventist (73%)      


Southern Baptist (73%)      


International Church of Christ (64%)      


Mennonite Brethren (64%)      


         Presbyterian Church USA (64%)      


Reformed Baptist (64%)      


United Pentecostal Church (64%)      


Orthodox Quakerism (55%)      


Mormonism (46%)      


Jehovah's Witness (28%)      


Liberal Quakerism (10%)      


Unitarian Universalism (10%)      


Unity Church (0%)   

[ialmisry]

Eastern Orthodox Church (100%)      
Lutheran Church-Missouri Synod (88%)      
Roman Catholic Church (86%)      
Evangelical Lutheran Church (79%)      
Episcopal/Anglican Church (71%)      

This is also an interesting religious quiz that is much more indepth:
http://www.beliefnet.com/Entertainment/Quizzes/BeliefOMatic.aspx

And my scores for the one I just linked...
Eastern Orthodox (100%)
Roman Catholic (100%)
Mainline to Conservative Christian/Protestant (89%)
Orthodox Quaker (85%)
Seventh Day Adventist (85%)
Mainline to Liberal Christian Protestants (61%)
Orthodox Judaism (56%)
Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints (Mormons) (54%)

Your Top 3 Faith Match Profiles Are:

Eastern Orthodox (100%)
Roman Catholic (100%)
Mainline to Conservative Christian/Protestant (92%)
Seventh Day Adventist (89%)
Orthodox Quaker (88%)
Hinduism (80%)
Mainline to Liberal Christian Protestants (66%)
Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints (Mormons) (63%)
Jehovah's Witness (61%)
Orthodox Judaism (53%)
Sikhism (52%)
Jainism (50%)
Liberal Quakers (45%)
Islam (44%)
Baha'i Faith (42%)
Theravada Buddhism (39%)
Mahayana Buddhism (39%)
Unitarian Universalism (37%)
Neo-Pagan (26%)
Taoism (25%)
Reform Judaism (24%)
Christian Science (Church of Christ, Scientist) (22%)
New Age (20%)
Scientology (20%)
Nontheist (19%)
Secular Humanism (18%)
New Thought (17%)

[Rufus]

Finally, I'm truly Orthodox! (last year my top results were the two Lutheran denominations.)

1 Eastern Orthodox Church (100%)          
2 Lutheran Church-Missouri Synod (95%)          
3 Evangelical Lutheran Church (90%)          
4 Roman Catholic Church (87%)          
5 Episcopal/Anglican Church (75%)          
6 Assemblies of God (74%)          
7 Church of Christ (74%)          
8 Methodist/Wesleyan Church (74%)          
9 Mennonite Brethren (69%)          
10 International Church of Christ (67%)          
11 United Pentecostal Church (67%)       
12 Free Will Baptist (65%)          
13 Presbyterian Church in America/Orthodox Presbyterian Church (65%)          
14 Reformed Churches (65%)   
15 Southern Baptist (65%)          
16 Orthodox Quakerism (60%)          
17 Presbyterian Church USA (60%)          
18 Seventh-Day Adventist (60%)          
19 Reformed Baptist (59%)          
20 Mormonism (55%)          
21 Jehovah's Witness (45%)          
22 Liberal Quakerism (20%)          
23 Unitarian Universalism (2%)          
24 Unity Church (0%)   

[William]

Eastern Orthodox 100%
Lutheran Church Missouri Synod 100%
Roman Catholic 100%  So how can I be 100% Roman Catholic if I did not agree that authority is vested in one  person or a group of people?

Yeah that quiz seems badly designed...

They need to add a couple of more questions to distinguish better between EO and RC.
For example:
1. Do you agree that the Holy Spirit proceeds from the Father and from the Son?
2. Do you believe in Purgatory?
3. Do you agree with playing instrumental music, such as organ music, during Church services?

Thanks for the replies and information.

"stanley123's" questions 1 & 2 would make the difference, I know this reply by "stanley123" was written seriously, and is a serious question, but question 1 made me laugh.

However, being in the GOAA, question "3" might not necessarily distinguish the Eastern Orthodox from Roman Catholics, not that I don't understand it to be a canonical matter.

6. In making the sign of the cross, the righthand touches the left shoulder first, and the right shoulder after that.

Dude, the sign of the cross is not a matter of Faith, it's a matter of Practice.
Besides, WRO and OO both do the sign of the cross from left to right.

Correct. It is just a question to be added to the others.
In Yugoslavia, when they wanted to see who was RC and who was EO, they would ask the boys to make the sign of the cross. That gave them their answer.

You're still forgetting that some canonical EO cross themselves from Left to Right.

In the WR forum there's a thread saying most WRiters cross themselves in the same way as the Byzantines, which I believe is the pre-schism method.

[ialmisry]

Finally, I'm truly Orthodox! (last year my top results were the two Lutheran denominations.)

1 Eastern Orthodox Church (100%)          
2 Lutheran Church-Missouri Synod (95%)          
3 Evangelical Lutheran Church (90%)          
4 Roman Catholic Church (87%)          
5 Episcopal/Anglican Church (75%)          
6 Assemblies of God (74%)          
7 Church of Christ (74%)          
8 Methodist/Wesleyan Church (74%)          
9 Mennonite Brethren (69%)          
10 International Church of Christ (67%)          
11 United Pentecostal Church (67%)       
12 Free Will Baptist (65%)          
13 Presbyterian Church in America/Orthodox Presbyterian Church (65%)          
14 Reformed Churches (65%)   
15 Southern Baptist (65%)          
16 Orthodox Quakerism (60%)          
17 Presbyterian Church USA (60%)          
18 Seventh-Day Adventist (60%)          
19 Reformed Baptist (59%)          
20 Mormonism (55%)          
21 Jehovah's Witness (45%)          
22 Liberal Quakerism (20%)          
23 Unitarian Universalism (2%)          
24 Unity Church (0%)   

I'm 91% of my former denomination, 100% Orthodox.

[mabsoota]

i think all these 'orthodox' results confirm that the quizz is not too bad, not that there are so many orthodox people here! we validate it, not the other way round 
remember not to rely to heavily on the computer!

but deborah, maybe u should change the 'faith' section of yr profile now!

[militantsparrow]

#1 Eastern Orthodox
#2 Lurheran Church MS
#3 Episcopol/Anglican
#4 Evangelical Lutheran
#5 Roman Catholic

[Deborah]

i think all these 'orthodox' results confirm that the quizz is not too bad, not that there are so many orthodox people here! we validate it, not the other way round 
remember not to rely to heavily on the computer!

but deborah, maybe u should change the 'faith' section of yr profile now!

lol Mabsoota I think you're right...but what could I change it to?  I'm not a catechumen yet

[Asteriktos]

I'll retake it when I'm at a laptop. I just did it on my iPad so I couldn't adjust the bars on importance. I'm curious to see how that affects my results.

Did you retake it? Did it change the results significantly?

[kevlev]

i think all these 'orthodox' results confirm that the quizz is not too bad, not that there are so many orthodox people here! we validate it, not the other way round 
remember not to rely to heavily on the computer!

but deborah, maybe u should change the 'faith' section of yr profile now!

lol Mabsoota I think you're right...but what could I change it to?  I'm not a catechumen yet

But you are most certainly an 'inquirer', correct?

[truthseeker32]

Episcopal/Anglican Church (100%)      
Eastern Orthodox Church (90%)      
Evangelical Lutheran Church (85%)      
Methodist/Wesleyan Church (85%)      
Seventh-Day Adventist (85%)   

I was curious to see what my results would be given that on a good chunk of the questions I marked "no preference," since I am still working a lot of my beliefs out. I guess my first result makes sense. I know a lot of Episcopalians who aren't sure what exactly they believe.

[Deborah]

i think all these 'orthodox' results confirm that the quizz is not too bad, not that there are so many orthodox people here! we validate it, not the other way round 
remember not to rely to heavily on the computer!

but deborah, maybe u should change the 'faith' section of yr profile now!

lol Mabsoota I think you're right...but what could I change it to?  I'm not a catechumen yet

But you are most certainly an 'inquirer', correct?

Thanks Kevlev - yes for sure

Faith section updated

[Arachne]

Eastern Orthodox, Roman Catholic, and Missouri Lutheran, all at 100%?

What is this I don't even

[Cyrillic]

Not quite what I expected...

[Asteriktos]

Eastern Orthodox Church (100%)            
Roman Catholic Church (88%)            
Lutheran Church-Missouri Synod (80%)            
Evangelical Lutheran Church (77%)            
Episcopal/Anglican Church (73%)  

Now:
Eastern Orthodox Church (100%)             
Lutheran Church-Missouri Synod (95%)             
Evangelical Lutheran Church (93%)             
Roman Catholic Church (89%)             
Episcopal/Anglican Church (85%)   

[Justin Kolodziej]

First quiz:
Eastern Orthodox Church (100%)       
Roman Catholic Church (95%)       
Lutheran Church-Missouri Synod (75%)       
Evangelical Lutheran Church (68%)       
Episcopal/Anglican Church (64%)       
Mormonism (61%)       
Church of Christ (50%)       
International Church of Christ (50%)       
Methodist/Wesleyan Church (50%)       
Mennonite Brethren (47%)       
Assemblies of God (42%)       
Free Will Baptist (42%)       
Presbyterian Church in America/Orthodox Presbyterian Church (42%)       
Reformed Churches (42%)       
Southern Baptist (42%)       
United Pentecostal Church (42%)       
Orthodox Quakerism (38%)       
Seventh-Day Adventist (38%)       
Presbyterian Church USA (35%)       
Reformed Baptist (33%)       
Jehovah's Witness (18%)       
Liberal Quakerism (6%)       
Unitarian Universalism (2%)       
Unity Church (0%)   

dang...must be because Byzantine Catholics give communion to infants and I think it would be a good idea even in the Roman Catholic Church 

Second quiz, some of the questions I wanted to check multiple options 

You have Roman Catholicism beliefs (100%) 
Eastern Orthodox (99%) 
Seventh Day Adventist (95%) 
Conservative Christian/Protestant (91%) 
Orthodox Quaker (85%)
Mormons (71%) 
Hinduism (68%) 
Jehovah's Witness (68%) 
Orthodox Judaism (54%) 
Liberal Quaker (49%) 
Muslim (42%) 
Sikhism (41%) 
Liberal Christian Protestant (38%) 
Bahai (35%) 
Jainism (35%) 
Unitarian Universalist (23%) 
Mayhayana Buddhism (21%) 
Theravada Buddhism(21%) 
Scientology (17%) 
Neo-Pagan (14%) 
New Age (13%) 
Reformed Judaism (12%) 
Secular Humanism (12%) 
Taoism (11%) 
Non-Theist (8%) 
New Thought (6%) 
Christian Science (2%) 
 

[pmpn8rGPT]

 

                        Eastern Orthodox Church (100%)      
         Lutheran Church-Missouri Synod (100%)      
         Assemblies of God (91%)      
         Evangelical Lutheran Church (91%)      
         Mennonite Brethren (91%)      
         Methodist/Wesleyan Church (91%)      
         Free Will Baptist (82%)      
         Orthodox Quakerism (82%)      
         Roman Catholic Church (82%)      
         Seventh-Day Adventist (82%)      
         Church of Christ (73%)      
         Episcopal/Anglican Church (73%)      
         Presbyterian Church in America/Orthodox Presbyterian Church (73%)      
         Reformed Churches (73%)      
         Southern Baptist (73%)      
         International Church of Christ (64%)      
         Presbyterian Church USA (64%)      
         Reformed Baptist (64%)      
                        United Pentecostal Church (64%)      
         Mormonism (46%)      
         Jehovah's Witness (28%)      
         Liberal Quakerism (28%)      
         Unitarian Universalism (0%)      
         Unity Church (0%)   

sounds right

[Antonis]

It would be interesting to see how the author of this quiz weighted the answers to the various questions towards or against Orthodoxy as the final result.

[Aindriú]

Eastern Orthodox Church (100%)      
Roman Catholic Church (97%)      
Lutheran Church-Missouri Synod (93%)      
Evangelical Lutheran Church (84%)      
Episcopal/Anglican Church (80%)  

I'm actually surprised. I thought I'd get Catholic.

[Nathanael]

Yes, I didn't get an anathema!!

1.Eastern Orthodox Church (100%)   
2.Roman Catholic Church (93%) 
3.Lutheran Church-Missouri Synod (90%)
4.Evangelical Lutheran Church (83%)
5.Methodist/Wesleyan Church (70%)   
6.Church of Christ (69%) 
7.Episcopal/Anglican Church (69%)   

[pmpn8rGPT]

According to the second quiz, I'm a conservative Protestant   

[Tikhon.of.Colorado]

Taking this quiz again, I'm:
100% Episcopal/Anglican Church
98% Evangelical Lutheran Church
92% Eastern Orthodox Church
89% Methodist/Weslyan

Goodness, how I've changed!   

[JamesRottnek]

On the first quiz, my results are now:

Episcopalian - 100%
ELCA - 98%
EO - 93%
LCMS - 93%
Methodist - 81%
RC - 74%
and nothing else 70% or above

[Ioannis Climacus]

As expected, my views have changed quite a bit :

First Quiz :

Unitarian Universalism (100%)             
Unity Church (100%)             
Liberal Quakerism (86%)             
Seventh-Day Adventist (58%)             
Mennonite Brethren (43%)             
Orthodox Quakerism (43%)             
Assemblies of God (29%)             
Episcopal/Anglican Church (29%)             
Free Will Baptist (29%)             
Methodist/Wesleyan Church (29%)             
Southern Baptist (29%)             
Church of Christ (15%)             
Eastern Orthodox Church (15%)             
Mormonism (15%)             
Presbyterian Church USA (15%)             
Presbyterian Church in America/Orthodox Presbyterian Church (15%)             
Reformed Baptist (15%)             
Reformed Churches (15%)             
United Pentecostal Church (15%)             
Evangelical Lutheran Church (0%)             
International Church of Christ (0%)             
Jehovah's Witness (0%)             
Lutheran Church-Missouri Synod (0%)             
Roman Catholic Church (0%)     

Second Quiz :

New Age (100%)
Scientology (91%)
Mahayana Buddhism (89%)
New Thought (84%)
Unitarian Universalism (79%)
Taosim (77%)
Hinduism (73%)
Jainism (67%)
Theravada Buddhism (66%)
Church of Christ, Scientist (64%)
Liberal Quakerism (60%)
Neo-Paganism (60%)
Orthodox Quakerism (42%)
Sikhism (40%)
Islam (31%)
Orthodox Judaism (31%)
Liberal Christian Protestantism (29%)
Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints (26%)
Bahai Faith (23%)
Conservative Christian Protestant (23%)
Reform Judaism(23%)
Jehovah's Witness (22%)
Seventh-day Adventists (21%)
Secular Humanism (21%)
Roman Catholicism (19%)
Eastern Orthodox Christianity (19%)
Atheism (14%)

I wouldn't exactly call myself a New Ager though. I suppose it's the closest thing on the list.

[Cyrillic]

According to the second quiz, I'm a conservative Protestant   

According to the second quiz I'm again Roman Catholic. The interwebs thinks I'm a poping popish papist 

[William]

As expected, my views have changed quite a bit :

First Quiz :

Unitarian Universalism (100%)             
Unity Church (100%)             
Liberal Quakerism (86%)             
Seventh-Day Adventist (58%)             
Mennonite Brethren (43%)             
Orthodox Quakerism (43%)             
Assemblies of God (29%)             
Episcopal/Anglican Church (29%)             
Free Will Baptist (29%)             
Methodist/Wesleyan Church (29%)             
Southern Baptist (29%)             
Church of Christ (15%)             
Eastern Orthodox Church (15%)             
Mormonism (15%)             
Presbyterian Church USA (15%)             
Presbyterian Church in America/Orthodox Presbyterian Church (15%)             
Reformed Baptist (15%)             
Reformed Churches (15%)             
United Pentecostal Church (15%)             
Evangelical Lutheran Church (0%)             
International Church of Christ (0%)             
Jehovah's Witness (0%)             
Lutheran Church-Missouri Synod (0%)             
Roman Catholic Church (0%)     

Second Quiz :

New Age (100%)
Scientology (91%)
Mahayana Buddhism (89%)
New Thought (84%)
Unitarian Universalism (79%)
Taosim (77%)
Hinduism (73%)
Jainism (67%)
Theravada Buddhism (66%)
Church of Christ, Scientist (64%)
Liberal Quakerism (60%)
Neo-Paganism (60%)
Orthodox Quakerism (42%)
Sikhism (40%)
Islam (31%)
Orthodox Judaism (31%)
Liberal Christian Protestantism (29%)
Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints (26%)
Bahai Faith (23%)
Conservative Christian Protestant (23%)
Reform Judaism(23%)
Jehovah's Witness (22%)
Seventh-day Adventists (21%)
Secular Humanism (21%)
Roman Catholicism (19%)
Eastern Orthodox Christianity (19%)
Atheism (14%)

I wouldn't exactly call myself a New Ager though. I suppose it's the closest thing on the list.

I am so confused right now.

[mabsoota]

guys, it's a computer.
back away from the computer.
do not hit the computer!
go talk to a real life person!
you may find one outside your house...
 

[Nathanael]

I wouldn't exactly call myself a New Ager though. I suppose it's the closest thing on the list.

But isn't Helena Blavatsky (on your profil picture) a leading name in the New Age Movement? Helena was rather a patchwork-theosophist. If at the time when Blavatsky lived, would exist such accessible and rich informations about different religious traditions, she would be perhaps also a classical New Ager.

[Jetavan]

My first taking of the quiz (2010):

My #1 is:   Eastern Orthodox Church      
   My #2 is:   Evangelical Lutheran Church      
   My #3 is:   Episcopal/Anglican Church      
   My #4 is:   Lutheran Church-Missouri Synod      
   My #5 is:   Methodist/Wesleyan Church      
   My #6 is:   Seventh-Day Adventist      
   My #7 is:   Presbyterian Church USA      
   My #8 is:   Roman Catholic Church      
   My #9 is:   Assemblies of God    
   My #10 is:   Presbyterian Church in America/Orthodox Presbyterian Church      
   My #11 is:   Reformed Churches      
   My #12 is:   Southern Baptist      
   My #13 is:   Mennonite Brethren      
   My #14 is:   Church of Christ      
   My #15 is:   Free Will Baptist      
   My #16 is:   Reformed Baptist      
   My #17 is:   Unitarian Universalism      
   My #18 is:   United Pentecostal Church      
   My #19 is:   Liberal Quakerism      
   My #20 is:   Orthodox Quakerism      
   My #21 is:   International Church of Christ      
   My #22 is:   Mormonism      
   My #23 is:   Unity Church      
   My #24 is:   Jehovah's Witness  

Today's results

         Unitarian Universalism (100%)      
         Episcopal/Anglican Church (95%)      
         Eastern Orthodox Church (88%)      
         Unity Church (88%)      
         Evangelical Lutheran Church (85%)      
         Methodist/Wesleyan Church (85%)      
         Seventh-Day Adventist (85%)      
         Liberal Quakerism (72%)      
         Lutheran Church-Missouri Synod (72%)      
         Roman Catholic Church (72%)      
         Presbyterian Church USA (62%)      
         Assemblies of God (59%)      
         Southern Baptist (59%)      
         Free Will Baptist (57%)      
         Mormonism (57%)      
         Church of Christ (54%)      
         Mennonite Brethren (54%)      
         Orthodox Quakerism (52%)      
         Presbyterian Church in America/Orthodox Presbyterian Church (49%)      
         Reformed Churches (49%)      
         Reformed Baptist (47%)      
         International Church of Christ (42%)      
         United Pentecostal Church (42%)      
         Jehovah's Witness (0%)

[Keble]

Is anyone surprised?

• Episcopal/Anglican Church (100%)
• Evangelical Lutheran Church (100%)
• Lutheran Church-Missouri Synod (89%)
• Methodist/Wesleyan Church (78%)

EO was 8th at 56%, RC was 11th at the same percentage. I'm happy to see that I got 15% or less on Mormonism, Liberal Quakerism, JWs, UU, and Unity Church.

[TheMathematician]

my old results

Link: Christian Denomination Selector
          Lutheran Church-Missouri Synod (100%)     


         Evangelical Lutheran Church (94%)     


         Eastern Orthodox Church (92%)     


         Roman Catholic Church (79%)     


         Episcopal/Anglican Church (74%)     


         Methodist/Wesleyan Church (74%)     


         Church of Christ (72%)     


         International Church of Christ (66%)     


         Free Will Baptist (64%)     


         Presbyterian Church in America/Orthodox Presbyterian Church (61%)     


         Reformed Churches (61%)     


         United Pentecostal Church (59%)     


         Assemblies of God (57%)     


         Mennonite Brethren (57%)     


         Southern Baptist (57%)     


         Presbyterian Church USA (55%)     


         Mormonism (50%)     


         Orthodox Quakerism (50%)     


         Reformed Baptist (50%)     


         Seventh-Day Adventist (44%)     


         Jehovah's Witness (27%)     


         Liberal Quakerism (7%)     


         Unitarian Universalism (0%)     


         Unity Church (0%)     


my new results

   Eastern Orthodox Church (100%)      


         Roman Catholic Church (88%)      


         Evangelical Lutheran Church (73%)      


         Lutheran Church-Missouri Synod (73%)      


         Episcopal/Anglican Church (65%)      


         Methodist/Wesleyan Church (50%)      


         Mormonism (40%)      


         Church of Christ (35%)      


         International Church of Christ (35%)      


         Mennonite Brethren (30%)      


         Seventh-Day Adventist (30%)      


         Assemblies of God (25%)      


         Free Will Baptist (25%)      


         Orthodox Quakerism (23%)      


         United Pentecostal Church (23%)      


         Presbyterian Church USA (13%)      


         Presbyterian Church in America/Orthodox Presbyterian Church (13%)      


         Reformed Churches (13%)      


         Southern Baptist (13%)      


         Liberal Quakerism (8%)      


         Jehovah's Witness (5%)      


         Unity Church (3%)      


         Reformed Baptist (0%)      


         Unitarian Universalism (0%)   

[Asteriktos]

Thanks broski, if you hadn't put all that space in there I wouldn't have been able to read it 

[NightOwl]

I guess I'm in the right place!


Eastern Orthodox Church (100%)       
Lutheran Church-Missouri Synod (95%)       
Evangelical Lutheran Church (85%)       
Roman Catholic Church (85%)       
Episcopal/Anglican Church (83%)       
Methodist/Wesleyan Church (75%)       
Assemblies of God (62%)       
Church of Christ (62%)       
Free Will Baptist (62%)       
Mennonite Brethren (57%)       
International Church of Christ (54%)       
Seventh-Day Adventist (54%)       
Presbyterian Church in America/Orthodox Presbyterian Church (52%)       
Reformed Churches (52%)       
Southern Baptist (52%)       
Orthodox Quakerism (47%)       
Presbyterian Church USA (42%)       
Reformed Baptist (42%)       
United Pentecostal Church (42%)       
Mormonism (39%)       
Jehovah's Witness (8%)       
Liberal Quakerism (8%)       
Unitarian Universalism (8%)       
Unity Church (0%)   

[William]

100% RCC and EOC, Lutheranism was pretty high up, Anglicanism was 78%, Unitarian Universalism and Unity Church come in at satisying 2% and 0%.

[Ioannis Climacus]

I wouldn't exactly call myself a New Ager though. I suppose it's the closest thing on the list.

But isn't Helena Blavatsky (on your profil picture) a leading name in the New Age Movement? Helena was rather a patchwork-theosophist. If at the time when Blavatsky lived, would exist such accessible and rich informations about different religious traditions, she would be perhaps also a classical New Ager.

Well, she is often referred to as the mother of New Age, but the modern movement postdates her. Theosophy, which Blavatsky taught, is the belief that there exists an esoteric spiritual core to the various religions of the world (though it has become distorted in some more than others) that was taught by the likes of Jesus, Buddha, Plato, Pythagoras, etc. New Age, on the other hand, is more or less an amalgamation of Blavatsky's contributions with various other writers (of course New Age is very diverse, so some forms may be more devoted to a particular source). I suppose it would not be entirely inaccurate to call Theosophy New Age, so long as it was distinguished from some of the modern practices/beliefs that go under that name. I say this not to disparage the New Age movement (which I believe has a lot to contribute to the world), but that many Theosophists will distance themselves from its more superstitious and dangerous manifestations.

[Nephi]

Honestly, quizzes like these are pretty terrible.

(1st) Selectsmart Quiz:
Eastern Orthodox Church (100%)      
Lutheran Church-Missouri Synod (97%)      
Roman Catholic Church (93%)      
Evangelical Lutheran Church (87%)      
Episcopal/Anglican Church (79%)      
International Church of Christ (70%)      


(2nd) Beliefnet Quiz:
Roman Catholicism (100%)
Eastern Orthodox (97%)
Seventh-day Adventist (87%)
Conservative Christian/Protestant (85%)
Orthodox Quaker (76%)
Hinduism (58%)

From a few months ago:

Eastern Orthodox Church (100%)      
Lutheran Church-Missouri Synod (88%)      
Roman Catholic Church (86%)      
Evangelical Lutheran Church (79%)      
Episcopal/Anglican Church (71%)      

This is also an interesting religious quiz that is much more indepth:
http://www.beliefnet.com/Entertainment/Quizzes/BeliefOMatic.aspx

And my scores for the one I just linked...
Eastern Orthodox (100%)
Roman Catholic (100%)
Mainline to Conservative Christian/Protestant (89%)
Orthodox Quaker (85%)
Seventh Day Adventist (85%)
Mainline to Liberal Christian Protestants (61%)
Orthodox Judaism (56%)
Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints (Mormons) (54%)

[tweety234]

Here is the list:

   Episcopal/Anglican Church (100%)       
   
         Mennonite Brethren (84%)       
   
         Methodist/Wesleyan Church (84%)       
   
         Church of Christ (67%)       
   
         Evangelical Lutheran Church (67%)       
   
         Free Will Baptist (67%)       
   
         Lutheran Church-Missouri Synod (67%)       
   
         Orthodox Quakerism (67%)       
   
         Presbyterian Church USA (67%)       
   
         Presbyterian Church in America/Orthodox Presbyterian Church (67%)       
   
         Reformed Churches (67%)       
   
         Southern Baptist (67%)       
   
         Assemblies of God (50%)       
   
         Eastern Orthodox Church (50%)       
   
         International Church of Christ (50%)       
   
         Reformed Baptist (50%)       
   
         Seventh-Day Adventist (50%)       
   
         Liberal Quakerism (34%)       
   
         Roman Catholic Church (34%)       
   
         Jehovah's Witness (17%)       
   
         United Pentecostal Church (17%)       
   
         Mormonism (0%)       
   
         Unitarian Universalism (0%)       
   
         Unity Church (0%)   


fine with everything else. Where did jehovas witness come from?

[Nathanael]

I say this not to disparage the New Age movement (which I believe has a lot to contribute to the world),

Are you kidding me?. I know so many people (and myself) who were destroyed by New Age, especially mentally, but also physically. And so many who converted from New Age/Theosophy to the living Christ and there's hardly a vice versa tendency. New Age and Theosophy are dead philosophies, because among other things you cannot find any models or rather saints there. It's mind-worshipping. You worship your own "glorious" subjective ideas of life and "God"/truth. It's pride. There's no humility. It's a patchwork-truth.
Please forgive me that I write so bold against it. I wouldn't do it, If I weren't a former New Ager.

[Jetavan]

I say this not to disparage the New Age movement (which I believe has a lot to contribute to the world),

Are you kidding me?. I know so many people (and myself) who were destroyed by New Age, especially mentally, but also physically. And so many who converted from New Age/Theosophy to the living Christ and there's hardly a vice versa tendency. New Age and Theosophy are dead philosophies, because among other things you cannot find any models or rather saints there. It's mind-worshipping. You worship your own "glorious" subjective ideas of life and "God"/truth. It's pride. There's no humility. It's a patchwork-truth.
Please forgive me that I write so bold against it. I wouldn't do it, If I weren't a former New Ager.

Do you see any positive qualities to the New Age movements?

[Nathanael]

Do you see any positive qualities to the New Age movements?

I cannot find any positive qualities, which the christian or rather orthodox belief hasn't already.
For the most people the New Age Movement or Theosophy is easy accessibly, because you can, in an individual way, take from the various religions what you need and New Age/Theosophy doesn't condemn all other religions and denominations theoretically(!), but they give you a harmonic religious system, that "there exists an esoteric spiritual core to the various religions of the world." But when you're a New Ager you're becoming more and more proud, thinking that you're spritual higher than other people. Sure, this can also happen when you're an orthodox christian, but much less.

[Ioannis Climacus]

I say this not to disparage the New Age movement (which I believe has a lot to contribute to the world),

Are you kidding me?. I know so many people (and myself) who were destroyed by New Age, especially mentally, but also physically. And so many who converted from New Age/Theosophy to the living Christ and there's hardly a vice versa tendency. New Age and Theosophy are dead philosophies, because among other things you cannot find any models or rather saints there. It's mind-worshipping. You worship your own "glorious" subjective ideas of life and "God"/truth. It's pride. There's no humility. It's a patchwork-truth.
Please forgive me that I write so bold against it. I wouldn't do it, If I weren't a former New Ager.

People have been "destroyed" in nearly every sect and religion. It entirely depends on the mindset and the aspirations of the individual in question. The biggest problem with New Age is the arrogance and self-indulgence of many of its practitioners. Many  (but certainly not all) New Agers are self-centered (in the bad way) and use (or attempt to use) the occult for their own end and for self-satisfaction. This is evil and it will ultimately destroy a man. It is nothing short of black magic and spiritual sorcery. Every religion is as flawed as its practitioners, so the New Age is no different.

Theosophy is, in this respect, the complete opposite. Theosophists devote (or should devote) themselves to altruism, humility, love, etc. For a Theosophist, the occult (if it is to be used at all) must never be used for selfish reasons, but only for benefit of those in need and for the betterment of humanity. Theosophy, like the occult, is esoteric. It is not our goal to make of the world a great number of Theosophists. The various religions of the world have assisted mankind and will continue to do so as they evolve alongside their practitioners. Theosophy is also not "mind-worshiping". If anything, it is the worship of the divine Spirit that is in and is every human being, every atom, and indeed everything that is. Theosophy is about recognizing that everything shares in divinity - to this end, love and brotherhood have no higher manifestations than self-sacrifice.

Just out of curiosity, how many Theosophists have you met? Have you met enough to claim that there are no "role models/saints"?

[88Devin12]

Eastern Orthodox Church (100%)
Roman Catholic Church (100%)
Lutheran Church-Missouri Synod (99%)
Evangelical Lutheran Church (90%)
Episcopal/Anglican Church (86%)
International Church of Christ (81%)
United Pentecostal Church (79%)
Church of Christ (72%)
Methodist/Wesleyan Church (72%)
Assemblies of God (70%)

[Nathanael]

People have been "destroyed" in nearly every sect and religion. [...]The biggest problem with New Age is the arrogance and self-indulgence of many of its practitioners.

Indeed! Many of its practitioners, too many! But the biggest problem is that the theoretical background of New Age lead the people to arrogance and self-indulgence(. (There's no theoretical concept which show you clearly the way of humility and spiritual life. There're too many different concepts, which you can individual choose). And even if there would be only one, which shows you the way of life, you couldn't still avoid pride.
With the theoretical background of Orthodoxy it's doesn't happen. And there're so many models and giants of love and humility, who show you that this path can lead you to perfection. Yes, also people in orthodoxy have been "destroyed", but not because of the theoretical concept in orthodoxy, but because of their pride and impatience in struggle with the passions.

Theosophy is also not "mind-worshiping"

Mind-worshipping because their belief is formed by theoretical thinking and every person has his individual access to it. There're no prophets. Theosophists try to find out the truth by "logical" thinking, but orthodoxy try it by keeping all the commandments of God, especially the perfect love towards God and towards neighboor.
You must first purify your mind and heart to that you can see and realize the truth.
How can a man who is full of passions claim that he  found the truth, that he has the true theory about the truth? With such a impure mind?

Just out of curiosity, how many Theosophists have you met? Have you met enough to claim that there are no "role models/saints"?

If you talk only about Theosophist and not New Ager (although it's often quite difficult to clearly separate them), so I've met about six Theosophists. And they were ok at first sight.
But I don't especially mean personal encounters, but about lives of more or less famous theosophists. There're no famous theosophist who impressed me with their life. And you really cannot compare their life with the life of orthodox saints. Or can you show me for example one theosophist who cried daily before God because of his sins and who prayed day and night for other people, what also many orthodox people in the world have been doing. Such a heart I want to get, and therefore I see no reason why to be a theosopist. The most people are theosophist because it seems to can explain everthing much more better than other religions. :/

[Ioannis Climacus]

Indeed! Many of its practitioners, too many! But the biggest problem is that the theoretical background of New Age lead the people to arrogance and self-indulgence(. (There's no theoretical concept which show you clearly the way of humility and spiritual life. There're too many different concepts, which you can individual choose). And even if there would be only one, which shows you the way of life, you couldn't still avoid pride.

Well, New Age is an umbrella term. Most New Agers settle with a certain writer or several whose works form the basis of belief. Some writers are better than others, but it is still no different than choosing amongst other religions. Pride is difficult to avoid, but not impossible. Arrogance and self-indulgence are quite common in every religion regardless of teachers and concepts.

Theosophically speaking, yes, there are "concepts which show you clearly the way of humility and spiritual life". Aside from our usage of other religious texts (Bible and patristics included), Blavatsky's writings are filled with teachings concerning morality. Love for humanity (and thus God) is the chief duty of a Theosophist. When you truly see yourself as one with others, pride and vanity will vanish.

With the theoretical background of Orthodoxy it's doesn't happen. And there're so many models and giants of love and humility, who show you that this path can lead you to perfection. Yes, also people in orthodoxy have been "destroyed", but not because of the theoretical concept in orthodoxy, but because of their pride and impatience in struggle with the passions.

Orthodoxy has many beautiful contributions (both holy men as well as guides to living a moral life), but it is far from being unique in that respect. Love, humility, virtue, etc. can all grow independent of one's dogma (though certain religions are more conducive to certain virtues). This can be seen in the Buddhist, Catholic, Protestant, Hindu, Muslim, etc. worlds. I do not wish to put words in your mouth, but would you argue that true exemplars of love and humility were almost non-extant outside of Eastern Europe/the Middle East until the last two centuries?

Mind-worshipping because their belief is formed by theoretical thinking and every person has his individual access to it. There're no prophets. Theosophists try to find out the truth by "logical" thinking, but orthodoxy try it by keeping all the commandments of God, especially the perfect love towards God and towards neighboor.
You must first purify your mind and heart to that you can see and realize the truth.
How can a man who is full of passions claim that he  found the truth, that he has the true theory about the truth? With such a impure mind?

No, you do not truly understand Theosophy. Theosophy is not a speculation based on historical research, but an ancient truth. That is, while H.P.B. was extremely well read, many of the connections and parallels she made (as well as prophecies) were revealed to her by those who had escaped the cycle of rebirth and decided to remain with humanity to watch over and assist in our spiritual evolution. Teachers and true Theosophists are found throughout the ages, each teaching an aspect appropriate to the time and culture. While you will most certainly disagree with these assertions, it must be understand that we see Truth as something to be "unveiled" not "discovered".

While purity is necessary in following Truth to the fullest degree, your logic is a bit circular. If purity of heart and mind are necessary to see Truth (and thus become Orthodox), what of Orthodoxy's role as the hospital of man. How could an impure man find Truth? Would a man pure enough to find truth need the hospital to being with? This is one of the many reasons I am a Theosophist. By our understanding, each individual is born not only as a consequence of karmic law, but also in a position to overcome wickedness (perhaps an aspect of evilness in particular) and grow spiritually. Rebirth continues until one is truly able to say "not my will, but yours, be done".

But I don't especially mean personal encounters, but about lives of more or less famous theosophists. There're no famous theosophist who impressed me with their life. And you really cannot compare their life with the life of orthodox saints. Or can you show me for example one theosophist who cried daily before God because of his sins and who prayed day and night for other people, what also many orthodox people in the world have been doing. Such a heart I want to get, and therefore I see no reason why to be a theosopist. The most people are theosophist because it seems to can explain everthing much more better than other religions. :/

Well, a Theosophist wouldn't pray in the way most Orthodox use the term (seeing as we do not believe in a personal God), so daily tears would be unlikely (but not impossible given great remorse). Of course if your standard of holiness is Orthodoxy, then it will logically confirm Orthodoxy.

But for a Theosophist that lived with love and humility, read H.P.B. The Extraordinary Life & Influence of Helena Blavatsky Founder of the Modern Theosophical Movement by Sylvia Cranston. It is a wonderful book not only for its well researched content, but its refutation of the malicious lies and slander directed towards Blavatsky. People who actually knew her felt that same sense of love and peace Klaus Kenneth felt from Mother Teresa and Elder Sophrony.

Two links pertinent to virtue and morality in Theosophy :

http://www.theosociety.org/pasadena/key/key-4.htm
http://www.theosociety.org/pasadena/key/key-12.htm

[Jetavan]

Well, a Theosophist wouldn't pray in the way most Orthodox use the term (seeing as we do not believe in a personal God)....

By this, do you mean that the impersonal Truth can never take, or incarnate in, human form?

[Ioannis Climacus]

Well, a Theosophist wouldn't pray in the way most Orthodox use the term (seeing as we do not believe in a personal God)....

By this, do you mean that the impersonal Truth can never take, or incarnate in, human form?

Theosophy teaches that all that is is an emanation of the formless divine singularity (God). The physical would can be regarded as an incarnation of the Divine (albeit maya), though it is not through the will of the absolute impersonal Truth.

[vamrat]

100% Orthodox followed very closely by Missouri Synod Lutheran.  Then Evangelical Lutheran, and then Catholic.  I am 0% Unitarian. 

Word.

[orthonorm]

I wouldn't exactly call myself a New Ager though. I suppose it's the closest thing on the list.

But isn't Helena Blavatsky (on your profil picture) a leading name in the New Age Movement? Helena was rather a patchwork-theosophist. If at the time when Blavatsky lived, would exist such accessible and rich informations about different religious traditions, she would be perhaps also a classical New Ager.

Theosophy is newage.

[orthonorm]

Second Quiz :

New Age (100%)
Scientology (91%)
Mahayana Buddhism (89%)
New Thought (84%)
Unitarian Universalism (79%)
Taosim (77%)
Hinduism (73%)
Jainism (67%)
Theravada Buddhism (66%)

Wow. If only "neo-pagan" replaced Jainism could this be worse. I would sue for defamation.

[orthonorm]

Is anyone surprised?

• Episcopal/Anglican Church (100%)
• Evangelical Lutheran Church (100%)
• Lutheran Church-Missouri Synod (89%)
• Methodist/Wesleyan Church (78%)

EO was 8th at 56%, RC was 11th at the same percentage. I'm happy to see that I got 15% or less on Mormonism, Liberal Quakerism, JWs, UU, and Unity Church.

I don't whether I should be. I know I almost always enjoy your posts, but I have no idea if you are a Christian or, if so, of what stripe. "Conservative" Anglican?

[orthonorm]

I say this not to disparage the New Age movement (which I believe has a lot to contribute to the world),

Are you kidding me?. I know so many people (and myself) who were destroyed by New Age, especially mentally, but also physically. And so many who converted from New Age/Theosophy to the living Christ and there's hardly a vice versa tendency. New Age and Theosophy are dead philosophies, because among other things you cannot find any models or rather saints there. It's mind-worshipping. You worship your own "glorious" subjective ideas of life and "God"/truth. It's pride. There's no humility. It's a patchwork-truth.
Please forgive me that I write so bold against it. I wouldn't do it, If I weren't a former New Ager.

Do you see any positive qualities to the New Age movements?

ZERO.

It is pure garbage.

It does offer a quick litmus test of who to avoid if they self-describe themselves as such though.

So that is a plus.

[Nathanael]

 

Theosophically speaking, yes, there are "concepts which show you clearly the way of humility and spiritual life". Aside from our usage of other religious texts (Bible and patristics included), Blavatsky's writings are filled with teachings concerning morality. Love for humanity (and thus God) is the chief duty of a Theosophist. When you truly see yourself as one with others, pride and vanity will vanish.

Love for humanity is the chief duty of almost all religions more or less. But the question is, how succesfull and deep can a person fulfill the divine commandments in his life...It's easy to write and say beautiful commandments and comment them, that can do everbody, but to really realize it not only in his mind and in the way of feelings, but also in every step in his life, that is hard. It needs many models.
The problem is that in New Age and Theosophy and other eastern religions the spiritual person see himself as one with others, but he doesn't go further. That is to say: he doesn't go the way down, he hardly consider himself unworthy, consider himself to be the worst of all people or rather sinners. He "only" see himself as one with others- that's all. Excuse me, but that's not humility. When I can consider a really bad person to be greater than me, to be an angel, then humility starts...

Love, humility, virtue, etc. can all grow independent of one's dogma (though certain religions are more conducive to certain virtues). This can be seen in the Buddhist, Catholic, Protestant, Hindu, Muslim, etc. worlds. I do not wish to put words in your mouth, but would you argue that true exemplars of love and humility were almost non-extant outside of Eastern Europe/the Middle East until the last two centuries?

Especially love and humility, but also some other virtues- are used by all religions, but they often don't have the same meaning or rather the same deepness, dimension. That's the point. (And I cannot expect that all other persons who are not orthodox that they 're quite immoral and barbarous. If somebody wants to be virtous, he can achieve it on a certain level, because he has a free will.)
When for example a buddhist have compassion then he does it more intellectual, he try to put himself in his shoes, but he's at the same time quite carefull with compassionate fellings, because he want to avoid suffering. He's "just" emotional. His emphaty has a limit. But if I'm an authentic orthodox, then I truly see myself one with the other person, that's mean I take all his pain in my heart or even more, and I suffer because I love; And it will be not a problem to go to the abyss of the suffering love, because Christ give his love, his power for that.  Love makes us also ready to pay for the sins of others.
The same thing we see regarding humility.

"He says that the empirical cosmic being is like a pyramid: at the top sit the powerful of the earth, who exercise dominion over the nations (cf. Matt. 20:25), and at the bottom stand the masses. But the spirit of man, by nature [unfallen nature as given by God], demands equality, justice and freedom of spirit, and therefore is not satisfied with this “pyramid of being.” So, what did the Lord do? He took this pyramid and inverted it, and put Himself at the bottom, becoming its Head. He took upon Himself the weight of sin, the weight of the infirmity of the whole world, and so from that moment on, who can enter into judgment with Him? His justice is above the human mind. So, He revealed His Way to us, and in so doing showed us that no one can be justified but by this way, and so all those who are His must go downwards to be united with Him, the Head of the inverted pyramid, because it is there that the “fragrance” of the Holy Spirit is found; there is the power of divine life. Christ alone holds the pyramid, but His fellows, His Apostles and His saints, come and share this weight with Him. However, even if there were no one else, He could hold the pyramid by Himself, because He is infinitely strong; but He likes to share everything with His fellows. Mindful of this, then, it is essential for man to find the way of going down, the way of humility, which is the Way of the Lord, and to become a fellow of Christ, who is the Author of this path." Archimandrite Zacharias in Enlargement of the heart

Theosophy is not a speculation based on historical research, but an ancient truth. That is, while H.P.B. was extremely well read, many of the connections and parallels she made (as well as prophecies) were revealed to her by those who had escaped the cycle of rebirth and decided to remain with humanity to watch over and assist in our spiritual evolution. Teachers and true Theosophists are found throughout the ages, each teaching an aspect appropriate to the time and culture. While you will most certainly disagree with these assertions, it must be understand that we see Truth as something to be "unveiled" not "discovered".

An ancient truth? That sounds very dogmatic. That's probably the main dogma of Theosophy, and I thought Theosophy isn't dogmatic. Read Rene Guenon, he wrote a detailed critique of Theosophy titled "Theosophy: history of a pseudo-religion". Excuse me, but you cannot compare the gift of prophesy with channeling in New Age and Theosophy. An adulter can use channeling, everbody can do it. The prophecy of 2012, 21 Dec. that there would be an great change in the world, a new era etc. was also said by many, many New Ager who got this information by canneling with "masters", avatars, etc. A prophecy from the holy spirit cannot not be fulfilled.
New Ager thinks that the impersonal God is also present in "cosmic energies", and then they try to tap this energy and to use it for their own will. That's awful. I could cry. That's a high level of pride. Instead that they're servants, they behave as if they're supergods.

While purity is necessary in following Truth to the fullest degree, your logic is a bit circular. If purity of heart and mind are necessary to see Truth (and thus become Orthodox), what of Orthodoxy's role as the hospital of man. How could an impure man find Truth? Would a man pure enough to find truth need the hospital to being with? This is one of the many reasons I am a Theosophist. By our understanding, each individual is born not only as a consequence of karmic law, but also in a position to overcome wickedness (perhaps an aspect of evilness in particular) and grow spiritually. Rebirth continues until one is truly able to say "not my will, but yours, be done"

John 8,32: "“If you hold to my teaching/commandments, you are really my disciples. 32 Then you will know the truth, and the truth will set you free.”"
The more I repent, the more I've contrition in my heart, the more I cry- the more I see that the orthodoxy is the truth. Repentance, contrition in heart, humility- these are the tools by which I purify my heart and mind. It's the most effective weapon against the EGO: See: http://www.enlightennext.org/magazine/j17/dionysios.asp?page=3 . I follow these persons who purified themselves truly.
The concept of impurity is very weak in Theosophy and New Age. It's like: "I'm impure, so what? I'll get free of that with absorbing spirituality." There're no true consciousness of our state. Therefore it's hard to get humility. Only Christ can release us from our impurity and sin(or in your term: karma).

But for a Theosophist that lived with love and humility, read H.P.B. The Extraordinary Life & Influence of Helena Blavatsky Founder of the Modern Theosophical Movement by Sylvia Cranston. It is a wonderful book not only for its well researched content, but its refutation of the malicious lies and slander directed towards Blavatsky. People who actually knew her felt that same sense of love and peace Klaus Kenneth felt from Mother Teresa and Elder Sophrony

There's book In Memory of Helena Petrovna Blavatsky  some of her pupils write about her. And cannot really find something so that I could say that she's on the same spiritual level like Mother Theresa or Elder Sophrony. For example Charles Johnston writes: "The first and earliest impression I received from Madame Blavatsky was the feeling of the power and largeness of her individuality" or of another pupil: "she was the practical personification of charity and forgiveness."etc.But this are more descriptions of her charisma than an living deep experience of her spirit. What had they been receiving from her spirit? For example when Klaus(who saw and lived with many buddhist and hindu "masters" in Asia) met Elder Sophrony, he was so humbled by his love that he had cried the next three days at home for hours. In his presence people felt to received a great power to have the will to fight against their passions etc. To be charismatic- that's not hard. An atheist can be that. I can be that. A person for example told me that I'm the most kind person he ever met, but that's so ridiculous, that's bullshit. My spiritual father almost gave me up.
In his book Robert Tod Carroll wrote in his book (2003)wrote that Blavatsky used trickery into deceiving others into thinking she had paranormal powers. that Blavatsky had faked a materialization of a tea cup and saucer as well as written the messages from her masters herself. And that's quite strange to demonstrate your paranormal powers to others. And  many of theirs supernatural gifts seems to be very useless for the benefit of others and for herself. When I was a New Ager, I had for example the "gift" or rather the occult power to control the flame of a candle. But when I think back that's so ridiculous.  
Have you read the life of Elder Porphyrios? You'll never read about a person who had more divine supernatural gifts. The 20 century is so full of beautiful models and saints in orthodoxy; there're really many. Theosophy, New Age can really not keep up with it.



I suppose that you hadn't been for a long time orthodox, because you couldn't never forget the smell of penitent humility. I suppose also that my weak, bold words will not convince you. So go just your way you started to go- at the beginning it's always bloomy; especially for the mind. If you want to rethink one time New Age then I offer you to read this book:
THE PEARL OF GREAT PRICE- by Veronica Hughes. She was a former New Ager. And I repeat again: There're so many who converted from New Age/Theosophy to the living Christ and there's hardly a vice versa tendency. Please don't make the same, similiar fault like Elder Sophrony: After he was pious orthodox, he left it to practice eastern religions for seven tears- but then returned to orthodoxy and repented his fault in the ocean or rather "hell" of contrition.
Forgive me.

[Cyrillic]

Orthonorm, why not post your results?

[Nathanael]

Orthonorm, why not post your results?

Maybe he feels ashamed. 

[Jetavan]

When for example a buddhist have compassion then he does it more intellectual, he try to put himself in his shoes, but he's at the same time quite carefull with compassionate fellings, because he want to avoid suffering.

A Bodhisattva, in Theravada Buddhism, is someone who chooses eons of suffering (physical, emotional, mental, etc.), for the sake of the awakening of sentient beings.

[Asteriktos]

orthonorm isn't online right now, but he shared his results with me in private and gave me permission to post them:

Martin Heidegger (98%)
Niklas Luhmann (98%)
Moses (88%)
Eastern Orthodox Church (42%)
Jesuits (31%)
Achronos (1%)

[Nathanael]

A Bodhisattva, in Theravada Buddhism, is someone who chooses eons of suffering (physical, emotional, mental, etc.), for the sake of the awakening of sentient beings.

I know, I read a bit about it. But have you ever read about a buddhist monk who is crying his soul out day and night for humankind with the deepest pain? I've searched, but I couldn't find it. It seems to describe similiar things, but the experience could be a quite different one.
Do you have an informative link for me?

[Nathanael]

orthonorm isn't online right now, but he shared his results with me in private and gave me permission to post them:

Martin Heidegger (98%)
Niklas Luhmann (98%)
Moses (88%)
Eastern Orthodox Church (42%)
Jesuits (31%)
Achronos (1%)

 

[orthonorm]

Orthonorm, why not post your results?

Why not read the thread?

[orthonorm]

orthonorm isn't online right now, but he shared his results with me in private and gave me permission to post them:

Martin Heidegger (98%)
Niklas Luhmann (98%)
Moses (88%)
Eastern Orthodox Church (42%)
Jesuits (31%)
Achronos (1%)

LOL!

When did I possibly mention Luhmann to you? Weird. In any case, try reading him.

[Cyrillic]

Orthonorm, why not post your results?

Why not read the thread?

Lazy.

[Asteriktos]

When did I possibly mention Luhmann to you? Weird. In any case, try reading him.

It was in the unofficial chat, before the powers-that-be here tried to distance themselves from it. Anything in particular by Luhmann? Is any translated into English?  I also realised after I made the post that I should have had a separate one for St. Paul...

[orthonorm]

When did I possibly mention Luhmann to you? Weird. In any case, try reading him.

It was in the unofficial chat, before the powers-that-be here tried to distance themselves from it. Anything in particular by Luhmann? Is any translated into English?  I also realised after I made the post that I should have had a separate one for St. Paul...

After I wrote that I nearly added don't ask me what. Will look over what is in English and how accessible those works are.

He is not that important in the Anglo-American world (his reception seems a little better in Latin America).

Frankly, it is difficult and I am not sure how well I understand him.

From the 20th century, there are two people who I would like to understand but probably will never have the time nor ability to do so:

Deleuze
Luhmann

[Jetavan]

A Bodhisattva, in Theravada Buddhism, is someone who chooses eons of suffering (physical, emotional, mental, etc.), for the sake of the awakening of sentient beings.

I know, I read a bit about it. But have you ever read about a buddhist monk who is crying his soul out day and night for humankind with the deepest pain?

Do you mean crying with tears? Or just a deep emotional feeling?

[JamesRottnek]

A Bodhisattva, in Theravada Buddhism, is someone who chooses eons of suffering (physical, emotional, mental, etc.), for the sake of the awakening of sentient beings.

I know, I read a bit about it. But have you ever read about a buddhist monk who is crying his soul out day and night for humankind with the deepest pain? I've searched, but I couldn't find it. It seems to describe similiar things, but the experience could be a quite different one.
Do you have an informative link for me?

And how many Christians - monastics or otherwise - do this?

[Nathanael]

A Bodhisattva, in Theravada Buddhism, is someone who chooses eons of suffering (physical, emotional, mental, etc.), for the sake of the awakening of sentient beings.

I know, I read a bit about it. But have you ever read about a buddhist monk who is crying his soul out day and night for humankind with the deepest pain? I've searched, but I couldn't find it. It seems to describe similiar things, but the experience could be a quite different one.
Do you have an informative link for me?

And how many Christians - monastics or otherwise - do this?

I cannot charge that, unfortunately. A monastic should follow the principle "the hidden man of the heart"- Christians as well. I just know from a monk, who answered to a friend when he was asked why he's so joyful the whole day: "Because I'm crying the whole night".

[Nathanael]

A Bodhisattva, in Theravada Buddhism, is someone who chooses eons of suffering (physical, emotional, mental, etc.), for the sake of the awakening of sentient beings.

I know, I read a bit about it. But have you ever read about a buddhist monk who is crying his soul out day and night for humankind with the deepest pain?

Do you mean crying with tears? Or just a deep emotional feeling?

Yes, crying with tears. It's very difficult to know, what sort of feelings they(buddhists) mean, when the use same words like compassion. Me as a former New Ager, had the experience of compassion more in a fictive emotional way. I thought it was emotional but it wasn't. Especially it wasn't out of humility. I don't try to equalize my experience with the of the buddhist, but I just want to show how it's possible that although two religions are talking about the same words and describe it in a quite similiar way, they can have two different experiences, two different deepness of it. Therefore we should be very careful!
I like it when father Sophrony writes about how a priest should pray for the whole world during the liturgy; then he adds that sometimes the compassion becomes so strong that you feel near death in a literal way.
I think it's also important from "where" I feel compassion. From below (humility), on the same level (?) or from above (pride). I think a proud person's heart can also shake and tremble because of compassion, but it's a fake, although it's deep emotional.
Forgive me I wrote more than I should.

[Jetavan]

I just want to show how it's possible that although two religions are talking about the same words and describe it in a quite similiar way, they can have two different experiences, two different deepness of it. Therefore we should be very careful!

I certainly agree.

[Andrew Crook]

So this is apparently what I got so far:

Eastern Orthodox Church (100%)      
Episcopal/Anglican Church (89%)      
Evangelical Lutheran Church (89%)      
Lutheran Church-Missouri Synod (89%)      
Roman Catholic Church (78%)      
Church of Christ (67%)      
Methodist/Wesleyan Church (67%)      
Free Will Baptist (56%)      
International Church of Christ (56%)   

It could be because I said I had no preference on infant baptisms, or female priests. Nor was I too particular about where infallibility is vested whether in the college of Bishops, or in one single man in particular (i.e. the Pope). I also cannot honestly say that one must be a member of a specific church or organization in order to be "saved", as that was the Quiz's wording.  I cannot and will not believe that my Protestant family members are not "saved" merely because they were not Orthodox or Roman Catholics when they were still alive.

[Ioannis Climacus]

Love for humanity is the chief duty of almost all religions more or less. But the question is, how succesfull and deep can a person fulfill the divine commandments in his life...It's easy to write and say beautiful commandments and comment them, that can do everbody, but to really realize it not only in his mind and in the way of feelings, but also in every step in his life, that is hard. It needs many models.
The problem is that in New Age and Theosophy and other eastern religions the spiritual person see himself as one with others, but he doesn't go further. That is to say: he doesn't go the way down, he hardly consider himself unworthy, consider himself to be the worst of all people or rather sinners. He "only" see himself as one with others- that's all. Excuse me, but that's not humility. When I can consider a really bad person to be greater than me, to be an angel, then humility starts...

I believe you have a very limited definition of humility. Why do you attempt to categorize and segregate those who focus on lowliness and those who would not exalt themselves? In what ways do they differ on the practical level? While the mindset of the former can be helpful in overcoming pride, it is not an objective assessment. Take one individual who sees himself as the lowest of beings and another who sees himself as part of an organic humanity, no greater than any other individual. How do they differ in action?

Especially love and humility, but also some other virtues- are used by all religions, but they often don't have the same meaning or rather the same deepness, dimension. That's the point. (And I cannot expect that all other persons who are not orthodox that they 're quite immoral and barbarous. If somebody wants to be virtous, he can achieve it on a certain level, because he has a free will.)
When for example a buddhist have compassion then he does it more intellectual, he try to put himself in his shoes, but he's at the same time quite carefull with compassionate fellings, because he want to avoid suffering. He's "just" emotional. His emphaty has a limit. But if I'm an authentic orthodox, then I truly see myself one with the other person, that's mean I take all his pain in my heart or even more, and I suffer because I love; And it will be not a problem to go to the abyss of the suffering love, because Christ give his love, his power for that.  Love makes us also ready to pay for the sins of others.
The same thing we see regarding humility.

"He says that the empirical cosmic being is like a pyramid: at the top sit the powerful of the earth, who exercise dominion over the nations (cf. Matt. 20:25), and at the bottom stand the masses. But the spirit of man, by nature [unfallen nature as given by God], demands equality, justice and freedom of spirit, and therefore is not satisfied with this “pyramid of being.” So, what did the Lord do? He took this pyramid and inverted it, and put Himself at the bottom, becoming its Head. He took upon Himself the weight of sin, the weight of the infirmity of the whole world, and so from that moment on, who can enter into judgment with Him? His justice is above the human mind. So, He revealed His Way to us, and in so doing showed us that no one can be justified but by this way, and so all those who are His must go downwards to be united with Him, the Head of the inverted pyramid, because it is there that the “fragrance” of the Holy Spirit is found; there is the power of divine life. Christ alone holds the pyramid, but His fellows, His Apostles and His saints, come and share this weight with Him. However, even if there were no one else, He could hold the pyramid by Himself, because He is infinitely strong; but He likes to share everything with His fellows. Mindful of this, then, it is essential for man to find the way of going down, the way of humility, which is the Way of the Lord, and to become a fellow of Christ, who is the Author of this path." Archimandrite Zacharias in Enlargement of the heart

The empathy that many Orthodox have for others is quite admirable, but if you took time to examine other traditions, you would see that the Orthodox are not alone in this. From Blavatsky's The Voice of Silence :

"Let thy Soul lend its ear to every cry of pain like as the lotus bares its heart to drink the morning sun.

Let not the fierce Sun dry one tear of pain before thyself hast wiped it from the sufferer's eye.

But let each burning human tear drop on thy heart and there remain, nor ever brush it off, until the pain that caused it is removed.

These tears, O thou of heart most merciful, these are the streams that irrigate the fields of charity immortal. 'Tis on such soil that grows the midnight blossom of Buddha more difficult to find, more rare to view than is the flower of the Vogay tree. It is the seed of freedom from rebirth. It isolates the Arhat both from strife and lust, it leads him through the fields of Being unto the peace and bliss known only in the land of Silence and Non-Being."

An ancient truth? That sounds very dogmatic. That's probably the main dogma of Theosophy, and I thought Theosophy isn't dogmatic. Read Rene Guenon, he wrote a detailed critique of Theosophy titled "Theosophy: history of a pseudo-religion". Excuse me, but you cannot compare the gift of prophesy with channeling in New Age and Theosophy. An adulter can use channeling, everbody can do it. The prophecy of 2012, 21 Dec. that there would be an great change in the world, a new era etc. was also said by many, many New Ager who got this information by canneling with "masters", avatars, etc. A prophecy from the holy spirit cannot not be fulfilled.
New Ager thinks that the impersonal God is also present in "cosmic energies", and then they try to tap this energy and to use it for their own will. That's awful. I could cry. That's a high level of pride. Instead that they're servants, they behave as if they're supergods.

What in particular have you found in Guenon's critique to be of value? I'll admit I am actually quite surprised that you referenced his work (given his many agreements with H.P.B.). His critiques (or at least the ones I am familiar with) are more or less directed at Blavatsky's conclusions regarding of occult phenomena, as well as her understanding of Eastern religion (Guenon's insistence, for instance, that reincarnation, as is taught today, could not be found in any ancient text). Browsing the work you referenced, I see he spends a good deal of time attacking Besant's Neo-Theosophy as well as Steiner's Anthroposophy - two individuals/philosophies that differ severely from the Theosophy advocated by H.P.B. I find it difficult to believe that you would assent to Guenon's understanding of the occult. Also, how do you define "channeling"?

The occult, in of itself, is a morally neutral affair. It is only human intent that makes it either good or evil. Selfish people can use it to their own ends. It can also be used incorrectly, leading to confusion. The mere fact that it can be misused and employed by the impure should not be a point of contention. At least anymore than we should condemn eating and speaking because some are gluttons and liars.

On the issue of prophecies made by various New Agers, I really have nothing to say. I am not New Ager, and nor was Blavatsky. But even if that was the case, I know not why we should be held accountable for their failed predictions. It is the equivalent of expecting all followers of Abrahamic religions to defend the Fatima prophecies.

John 8,32: "“If you hold to my teaching/commandments, you are really my disciples. 32 Then you will know the truth, and the truth will set you free.”"
The more I repent, the more I've contrition in my heart, the more I cry- the more I see that the orthodoxy is the truth. Repentance, contrition in heart, humility- these are the tools by which I purify my heart and mind. It's the most effective weapon against the EGO: See: http://www.enlightennext.org/magazine/j17/dionysios.asp?page=3 . I follow these persons who purified themselves truly.
The concept of impurity is very weak in Theosophy and New Age. It's like: "I'm impure, so what? I'll get free of that with absorbing spirituality." There're no true consciousness of our state. Therefore it's hard to get humility. Only Christ can release us from our impurity and sin(or in your term: karma).

But you state that only a pure heart can discern truth. How can an impure heart find Orthodoxy in the first place so as to be confirmed of its truth (and consequently be purified)? This really is a tangent, but I am legitimately curious because it seems that people are simply born into certain traditions and raised with mindsets that adhere to those traditions. On another tangent, is Orthodoxy only for a select few because only certain individuals ever have the opportunity of encountering it?

If, however, you think that impurity is a trivial matter in Theosophy, then you know nothing of what we believe. Once again, from The Voice of Silence :

"Before that path is entered, thou must destroy thy lunar body, cleanse thy mind-body and make clean thy heart.

Eternal life's pure waters, clear and crystal, with the monsoon tempest's muddy torrents cannot mingle.

Heaven's dew-drop glittering in the morn's first sun-beam within the bosom of the lotus, when dropped on earth becomes a piece of clay; behold, the pearl is now a speck of mire.

Strive with thy thoughts unclean before they overpower thee. Use them as they will thee, for if thou sparest them and they take root and grow, know well, these thoughts will overpower and kill thee. Beware, Disciple, suffer not, e'en though it be their shadow, to approach. For it will grow, increase in size and power, and then this thing of darkness will absorb thy being before thou hast well realized the black foul monster's presence.

Before the "mystic Power" can make of thee a god, Lanoo, thou must have gained the faculty to slay thy lunar form at will."

There's book In Memory of Helena Petrovna Blavatsky  some of her pupils write about her. And cannot really find something so that I could say that she's on the same spiritual level like Mother Theresa or Elder Sophrony. For example Charles Johnston writes: "The first and earliest impression I received from Madame Blavatsky was the feeling of the power and largeness of her individuality" or of another pupil: "she was the practical personification of charity and forgiveness."etc.But this are more descriptions of her charisma than an living deep experience of her spirit. What had they been receiving from her spirit? For example when Klaus(who saw and lived with many buddhist and hindu "masters" in Asia) met Elder Sophrony, he was so humbled by his love that he had cried the next three days at home for hours. In his presence people felt to received a great power to have the will to fight against their passions etc. To be charismatic- that's not hard. An atheist can be that. I can be that. A person for example told me that I'm the most kind person he ever met, but that's so ridiculous, that's bullshit. My spiritual father almost gave me up.

I have never heard of anyone weeping after meeting Blavatsky, but I sincerely doubt that doing so after meeting Elder Sophrony was a common occurrence. But even so, people, being inherently different, have a diversity of experiences and are effected differently by certain individuals. Call it mere charisma if you wish, it is just an convenient device to dismiss those with whom you disagree. I have seen people argue against Orthodox elders on the same grounds.

In his book Robert Tod Carroll wrote in his book (2003)wrote that Blavatsky used trickery into deceiving others into thinking she had paranormal powers. that Blavatsky had faked a materialization of a tea cup and saucer as well as written the messages from her masters herself. And that's quite strange to demonstrate your paranormal powers to others. And  many of theirs supernatural gifts seems to be very useless for the benefit of others and for herself. When I was a New Ager, I had for example the "gift" or rather the occult power to control the flame of a candle. But when I think back that's so ridiculous.  
Have you read the life of Elder Porphyrios? You'll never read about a person who had more divine supernatural gifts. The 20 century is so full of beautiful models and saints in orthodoxy; there're really many. Theosophy, New Age can really not keep up with it.

I am familiar with Carroll's Skeptic's Dictionary (another odd source for an Orthodox to consult) which uses Randi's poorly researched work as a source. What particular evidence does he provide in his accusation that the materialization was fake?

Much of the phenomena surrounding Blavatsky was to demonstrate the existence of occult forces and refute scientific materialism. It was for the benefit of her students. Orthodoxy indeed has many beautiful models, but so do other faiths. Have you heard of the Catholic saint, John Vianney and the thousands of people cured by him? Or perhaps of Newton, a late 19th century American mesmeric healer? Dogma plays no role in what you call the supernatural.

I suppose that you hadn't been for a long time orthodox, because you couldn't never forget the smell of penitent humility. I suppose also that my weak, bold words will not convince you. So go just your way you started to go- at the beginning it's always bloomy; especially for the mind. If you want to rethink one time New Age then I offer you to read this book:
THE PEARL OF GREAT PRICE- by Veronica Hughes. She was a former New Ager. And I repeat again: There're so many who converted from New Age/Theosophy to the living Christ and there's hardly a vice versa tendency. Please don't make the same, similiar fault like Elder Sophrony: After he was pious orthodox, he left it to practice eastern religions for seven tears- but then returned to orthodoxy and repented his fault in the ocean or rather "hell" of contrition.
Forgive me.

No, you have not convinced me and I doubt you would ever convince someone of any other religion. Your understanding of Theosophy is very shallow, even more so than your understanding of New Age. Clearly, some New Agers are consumed by pride and some trends within the movement are the result of a very superficial spirituality. This cannot be denied. Attempting to paint the entire movement as such, however, is absurd.

The more I read of polemics, the more I see the necessity of creating caricatures of the opponent. It is a necessity if one is to maintain a consistent worldview of religious exclusivity. Were one to actually address what other religions teach (as opposed to a strawman), the greatest fear of the fundamentalist may be realized - that Truth runs deeper than any label or group.

[Andrew Crook]

Ioannis,

So do you follow strictly Theosophy? There have been many offshoots of Blavatsky, you don't follow them as well do you? i.e. Alice Bailey, Nicholas Roerich, Guy and Edna Ballard, Geraldine Innocente "Thomas Printz", Elizabeth Clare Prophet, etc..

[Ioannis Climacus]

No, I do not put much stock in any of the individuals you mentioned. You can also add Besant and Leadbeater (and other Neo-Theosophists) to that list.

I am strictly a Theosophist.

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