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Offline hailemaryam

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Happy new year, in the Oldest Christian Calendar
« on: September 11, 2010, 05:23:37 AM »

የምሕረትህን ዓመት አክሊል ትባርካለህ፣ መዝ 64
Thou crownest the year with Thy goodness;
Psalms 65


መልካም አዲስ አመት !!!
Wish you Happy
Ethiopian/African
New Year !!
Happy 2003 E.C. !!!

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Re: Happy new year, in the Oldest Christian Calendar
« Reply #1 on: September 11, 2010, 05:42:17 AM »
Happy New Year, HaileMaryam!

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Re: Happy new year, in the Oldest Christian Calendar
« Reply #2 on: September 11, 2010, 08:23:41 AM »
Happy New Year!

It is acutally the oldest calendar, period, and the foundation of the Julian and hence Gregorian.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coptic_calendar

It is year 1727 of the Era of Martyrs.
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Re: Happy new year, in the Oldest Christian Calendar
« Reply #3 on: September 11, 2010, 09:22:01 AM »
Happy Feast of Nayrouz to all, in memory of the Holy Martyrs and Confessors.

And always remember the victims of 9-11-01, Memory Eternal.
"Be oppressed, rather than the oppressor. Be gentle, rather than zealous. Lay hold of goodness, rather than justice." -St. Isaac of Nineveh

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Re: Happy new year, in the Oldest Christian Calendar
« Reply #4 on: September 11, 2010, 01:46:54 PM »
Happy New Year!

It is acutally the oldest calendar, period, and the foundation of the Julian and hence Gregorian.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coptic_calendar

It is year 1727 of the Era of Martyrs.

Actually, I was talking about Ethiopian Calendar/Today is 01.01.2003 in Ethiopia/.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethiopian_calendar
Is there a coptic calendar which coincides with Ethiopian new year?

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Re: Happy new year, in the Oldest Christian Calendar
« Reply #5 on: September 11, 2010, 02:14:29 PM »
Here is a thread on the Coptic New Year:

http://www.orthodoxchristianity.net/forum/index.php/topic,7102.0.html

Happy New Year!   :)

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Re: Happy new year, in the Oldest Christian Calendar
« Reply #6 on: September 11, 2010, 02:45:40 PM »
Happy New Year!

It is acutally the oldest calendar, period, and the foundation of the Julian and hence Gregorian.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coptic_calendar

It is year 1727 of the Era of Martyrs.

Actually, I was talking about Ethiopian Calendar/Today is 01.01.2003 in Ethiopia/.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethiopian_calendar
Is there a coptic calendar which coincides with Ethiopian new year?
LOL. it is where the Ethiopians got their calendar  The Era date is the from a calcultion of Christ's conception and birth which was also shared with the Melkites.
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Re: Happy new year, in the Oldest Christian Calendar
« Reply #7 on: September 11, 2010, 03:15:51 PM »
Happy New Year!

It is acutally the oldest calendar, period, and the foundation of the Julian and hence Gregorian.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coptic_calendar

It is year 1727 of the Era of Martyrs.

Actually, I was talking about Ethiopian Calendar/Today is 01.01.2003 in Ethiopia/.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethiopian_calendar
Is there a coptic calendar which coincides with Ethiopian new year?
LOL. it is where the Ethiopians got their calendar  The Era date is the from a calcultion of Christ's conception and birth which was also shared with the Melkites.


The only thing Ethiopians got from Coptic Church pope Demetrius, is the mathematics to fix Easter on Sundays. But Ethiopian Calendar as a whole is formulated according to Scriptures, specially The Book of Enoch. The meaning of the days, months, the length of the year, the four seasons, and everything is set considering local factors and indigenous interpretations.
There were even three schools of Ethiopian Calendar, each of them promoting their own philosophy.
For instance the name of the days is derived from the Creation,
Sunday - 'Ehud', which came from Geez, Ahade, literally meaning The First Day...(of Creation)
Every day is preceded by night, unlike
...
Friday - 'Arib', which came from Geez word, 'Arebe', meaning 'Finished' (of Creation)
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And everything is just Biblical and not Julian. Just now you are saying its 1727, BUT its 2003 in Ethiopia.


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« Reply #8 on: September 11, 2010, 11:58:20 PM »
If the Ethiopians got nothing about their new year from the Copts then why do you both happen to have the same day for the new year on your respective calendars?
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Re: Happy new year, in the Oldest Christian Calendar
« Reply #9 on: September 12, 2010, 04:41:25 AM »
If the Ethiopians got nothing about their new year from the Copts then why do you both happen to have the same day for the new year on your respective calendars?

It would be easy to ask him, How the difference in year came/the coptic 1727 and the Ethiopian 2003/?
Coming to my justifications,
New year occurs on the day on which the rainy season is wind up, and the bright autumn sunlight shines, after a 5 day month,
Each month has 30 days, we have 12 months with 30 days, and one month 5 /6 days in each 4th year/.
 In the book of Enoch it says "When the sun rises in heaven, it goes forth through this fourth gate thirty days, and by the fourth gate in the west of heaven on a level with it descends."Chapter 71:17  --- Seasons are gates, and each month bear 30 days....and goes on.
Please read the whole Chapter 81, to know how system is working in the following link http://reluctant-messenger.com/1enoch61-105.htm
In Ethiopian Orthodox Church bible its arranged that way, anyways.
It may be Nile which links the two countries which made seasonal similarity.
But after Christianity came into stage, new calculations needed to fix the Special dates into the existing calendar.
That is why the Egyptian Demetrius' mathematics was used.

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Re: Happy new year, in the Oldest Christian Calendar
« Reply #10 on: September 13, 2010, 11:23:17 PM »
There is a sermon by Abba Seraphim of the British Orthodox Church, about the Coptic New Year:

http://www.orthodoxchristianity.net/forum/index.php/topic,25886.msg471912.html#msg471912