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« on: September 09, 2010, 03:43:39 PM » |
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I've been thinking recently about how ridiculous some minor laws are, at least in the United States. I also have been thinking about how police seem to be more than willing to enforce even the most minor, insignificant laws that probably should even exist in the first place...
My first example would have to be the law stating that your car's inside tire has to be within 1ft of the curb, or you get a ticket. I can understand this being an issue if someone is way out in the street, but should tiny cars be given tickets just because they are more than a foot away from the curb, even though they still barely stick out? (if at all?) Personally this law should be altered to measure to the outside tire, this way, smaller cars can park within a zone without fear of being ticketed, and it is only the larger vehicles that have to get close to the curb.
Another example is the stupidity of "no open containers on public property" that is, of alcohol... Seriously, how stupid is that?
The other day my friends crossed the street to another part of campus and were stopped by two cops just because they had crossed public property with open containers of alcohol... Honestly, that isn't breaking the law, if we were walking around the city with open containers and causing a ruckus, I can understand, but those cops seriously need their underwear checked because I think it was a little too tight.
Also on our campus, while alcohol is allowed, there is no hard alcohol allowed. Yet this isn't enforced unless you have it clearly out in plain sight in front of security. Even then, it isn't followed by anyone, and it just gives the prohibitionists leverage to persecute those that drink.
It gets ridiculous sometimes and I think there ought to be some exceptions added to such laws, otherwise it just gives Police more power to make money for the city instead of protecting the populace as is their job...
Anyone else agree? or am I way off-base here?
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« Reply #1 on: September 09, 2010, 04:12:29 PM » |
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I remember a few years ago getting a parking ticket because my car was supposedly more than 1 foot from the curb. I think the parking nazis were trying to come up with any excuse they had to make money. I paid the fine and moved on.
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« Reply #2 on: October 04, 2010, 12:35:45 PM » |
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I once got a ticket for driving through a yellow light because the officer said, and I quote, "It could have turned red."
I was too young and dumb at the time to fight the ticket, but I would definitely do so now.
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« Reply #3 on: October 04, 2010, 02:46:15 PM » |
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Sorry, I don't agree. If every law was tailored to the nth degree to fit every concievable circumstance and exception, they would be virtually unenforceable. Then everyone would be complaining that our laws are "to long and complicated" and "why can't we simplify them?"
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« Reply #4 on: October 04, 2010, 02:49:41 PM » |
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Then everyone would be complaining....
We can make that illegal too. |
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« Reply #5 on: October 04, 2010, 07:33:05 PM » |
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I once got a ticket for making a u-turn in a business district. I talked my way out of it by pointing out that the only business on the block has been burned to the ground - it was 1992, just after the L.A. riots!
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« Reply #6 on: October 04, 2010, 07:51:51 PM » |
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It's just another way to TAX people. These laws border on entrapment. The government merely provide what appears to be a favorable opportunity for the person to commit the offense.
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« Reply #7 on: October 04, 2010, 07:59:33 PM » |
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Maybe you're right . We shouldn't have laws. Here in VA you can get prison time for robbing a bank even if you really really needed the money for a very very good reason., and even if you're basically a really nice person. Sillyness.
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If people cry at weddings...why don't they laugh at funerals?
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« Reply #8 on: October 04, 2010, 08:07:45 PM » |
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Just went to a wedding at a popular lake, and apparently you can't have alcohol outside, period, and that is in two counties, and this is in an area where the population swells to about 400-500,000 during the Summer.
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« Reply #9 on: October 04, 2010, 08:32:19 PM » |
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Just went to a wedding at a popular lake, and apparently you can't have alcohol outside, period, and that is in two counties, and this is in an area where the population swells to about 400-500,000 during the Summer.
They are perhaps trying to prevent trouble from erupting unexpectedly due to overconsumption of alcoholic beverages. |
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« Reply #10 on: October 04, 2010, 10:15:31 PM » |
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I concur. Some laws are just terrible. You can't have an open container of alcohol in your car even if you are not drinking it. If I break the seal on a $40 bottle of wine at a restaurant and don't finish it then its coming home with me. To heck with that law.
Also, funny story. My brother was buying xmas gifts for the family. He got my dad a collectors hunting knife and my mom a set of cutlery knives. State law required he show ID for buying a single hunting knife, but didnt require such to buy a box of 36 knives. Gotta love it. lol
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« Reply #11 on: October 04, 2010, 10:19:39 PM » |
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I concur. Some laws are just terrible. You can't have an open container of alcohol in your car even if you are not drinking it. If I break the seal on a $40 bottle of wine at a restaurant and don't finish it then its coming home with me. To heck with that law.
Also, funny story. My brother was buying xmas gifts for the family. He got my dad a collectors hunting knife and my mom a set of cutlery knives. State law required he show ID for buying a single hunting knife, but didnt require such to buy a box of 36 knives. Gotta love it. lol
Since it's physically impossible to put a bottle of wine in the trunk of your car. |
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« Reply #12 on: October 04, 2010, 10:27:34 PM » |
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I concur. Some laws are just terrible. You can't have an open container of alcohol in your car even if you are not drinking it. If I break the seal on a $40 bottle of wine at a restaurant and don't finish it then its coming home with me. To heck with that law.
Also, funny story. My brother was buying xmas gifts for the family. He got my dad a collectors hunting knife and my mom a set of cutlery knives. State law required he show ID for buying a single hunting knife, but didnt require such to buy a box of 36 knives. Gotta love it. lol
Since it's physically impossible to put a bottle of wine in the trunk of your car. *** Also, best believe I can kill a whole bottle of wine at dinner if it is really good. ***Also, better believe I can drink a whole bottle of wine at dinner. Especially if it is really good. Im pretty sure it is still illegal. I have heard cases in which people were busted for having empty beer cans in the back of a truck with no alcohol in their body. |
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« Reply #13 on: October 04, 2010, 10:28:22 PM » |
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« Reply #14 on: October 04, 2010, 10:30:24 PM » |
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Also, let it be known I can indeed kill a whole bottle of wine at dinner. Especially if it is really good.
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« Reply #15 on: October 04, 2010, 11:30:50 PM » |
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Laws against victimless 'crimes' are inherently unjust and the mark of a tyrannical state. If you cannot name a direct and immediate victim of an act, it is utterly absurd for it to be illegal.
The problem is that the people are complacent, even more frightening, many are more concerned with security than liberty, which is the hallmark of the decline and death of any free society.
I wish I had a solution, but we are a lesser people as our ancestors, we are not as fully human. We have lost spirit of rebellion that once made this republic the greatest on earth. We are no longer truly Americans.
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« Reply #16 on: October 04, 2010, 11:50:56 PM » |
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Laws against victimless 'crimes' are inherently unjust and the mark of a tyrannical state. If you cannot name a direct and immediate victim of an act, it is utterly absurd for it to be illegal.
The problem is that the people are complacent, even more frightening, many are more concerned with security than liberty, which is the hallmark of the decline and death of any free society.
I wish I had a solution, but we are a lesser people as our ancestors, we are not as fully human. We have lost spirit of rebellion that once made this republic the greatest on earth. We are no longer truly Americans.
I agree so hard. |
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