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« Reply #270 on: November 24, 2013, 11:22:42 AM »
i don't get the two tables either.

It's about the two "meals" of the Word and the Eucharist; i.e. wanting to show by all means that Scripture is sacramental.

IIRC Chrysostom has a passage on "two tables", but Origen dwells at length on the theme of "eating" Scripture.

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« Reply #271 on: November 24, 2013, 12:48:14 PM »
Still dont get it.

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« Reply #273 on: November 24, 2013, 04:31:37 PM »
San Felipe de Neri Church in Albuquerque, NM.

What's that flat-topped structure with the white cloth on top that's obstructing the view of the altar?  ;)

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« Reply #274 on: November 24, 2013, 04:32:24 PM »
This is the Church of the Incarnation in Rio Rancho, NM. Though the colors are bright, the architecture is actually quite traditional. Also, because the parish has spent so much money building the church, they still need to acquire more statuary and religious icons.

I like the ceiling over the nave, but I'm not so sure I like how it appears over the altar and the transept (?), at least from that particular photo. 

Compared to some, this isn't so bad.....

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« Reply #275 on: November 24, 2013, 04:33:56 PM »
Basilique Notre-Dame de Montréal:



Beautiful!

Exquisite in deed, truly beautiful......!

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« Reply #276 on: November 24, 2013, 04:37:39 PM »
Cathedral of the Immaculate Conception, Kansas City, MO.

Pre-Vatican II Iconoclasm:



What is there today:



After lengthy renovations completed in 2003, here we have the new cathedral, where the altar is placed in the center of the nave with pews facing from each direction. I was going to go and visit this cathedral this week until I saw pictures of the interior. It seems so wrong!

Sorry, but that's pathetic.

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« Reply #277 on: November 24, 2013, 04:41:39 PM »
Church of Our Saviour, New York

proof that churches built since the 1950s need not be ugly



Totally agree.

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« Reply #278 on: November 24, 2013, 07:29:35 PM »
i don't get the two tables either.

It's about the two "meals" of the Word and the Eucharist; i.e. wanting to show by all means that Scripture is sacramental.

IIRC Chrysostom has a passage on "two tables", but Origen dwells at length on the theme of "eating" Scripture.

Yeah, I think this is right. I have a hard time remembering if there are two altar tables still, but if there are then the Gospel is read (during weekday masses, only time I've been) off the smaller one, and the Eucharist is celebrated on the larger one.

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« Reply #279 on: November 24, 2013, 07:34:25 PM »
i don't get the two tables either.

It's about the two "meals" of the Word and the Eucharist; i.e. wanting to show by all means that Scripture is sacramental.

IIRC Chrysostom has a passage on "two tables", but Origen dwells at length on the theme of "eating" Scripture.

Yeah, I think this is right. I have a hard time remembering if there are two altar tables still, but if there are then the Gospel is read (during weekday masses, only time I've been) off the smaller one, and the Eucharist is celebrated on the larger one.
Like in place of the priest's lectern? Why not that but a table? Is there no limit on making stuff up as thwy go along?

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« Reply #280 on: November 24, 2013, 07:49:00 PM »
Like in place of the priest's lectern? Why not that but a table? Is there no limit on making stuff up as thwy go along?

Just conjecture, but perhaps because of the recent emphasis on the "Liturgy of the Word" and "Liturgy of the Eucharist," and to show they are equally taken seriously or something.

A more recent picture (I actually know one of the girls in it):

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« Reply #281 on: November 24, 2013, 08:04:22 PM »
A more recent picture (I actually know one of the girls in it):

Which one?  ;)
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« Reply #282 on: November 24, 2013, 08:07:37 PM »
A more recent picture (I actually know one of the girls in it):

Which one?  ;)

Girl on the far-right, in my department. IIRC, she's from a family that is Melkite on one side and Armenian Catholic on the other.

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« Reply #283 on: November 24, 2013, 08:48:57 PM »
She looks particularly not interested to be there and be photographed while there.  :P
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« Reply #284 on: November 24, 2013, 09:36:55 PM »
I think she is bewildered by that second table as much as i am

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« Reply #285 on: November 25, 2013, 12:21:38 AM »


This is where I went to Mass today.  It's hard to believe this is the same Catholic Church as that appearing in Nephi's pictures...
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« Reply #286 on: November 25, 2013, 01:27:38 AM »


This is where I went to Mass today.  It's hard to believe this is the same Catholic Church as that appearing in Nephi's pictures...

Very nice, and I honestly wish it weren't the case. I'll be visiting a FSSP TLM/EF Mass this upcoming Sunday, which should make up for all the banality I've had to witness.

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« Reply #287 on: November 25, 2013, 01:44:10 AM »
I'll be visiting a FSSP TLM/EF Mass this upcoming Sunday, which should make up for all the banality I've had to witness.

I hope it's a sung Mass.  I always enjoy hearing Ad te levavi sung at this time of the year. 
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« Reply #288 on: November 25, 2013, 01:52:30 AM »
I'll be visiting a FSSP TLM/EF Mass this upcoming Sunday, which should make up for all the banality I've had to witness.

I hope it's a sung Mass.  I always enjoy hearing Ad te levavi sung at this time of the year. 

I was told there's a mix of polyphony and chanting, so I assume it's sung.

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« Reply #289 on: November 25, 2013, 02:29:30 AM »
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« Reply #290 on: November 25, 2013, 05:31:17 PM »
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Re: Roman Catholic Churches
« Reply #291 on: November 29, 2013, 01:08:07 AM »
San Felipe de Neri Church in Albuquerque, NM.

What's that flat-topped structure with the white cloth on top that's obstructing the view of the altar?  ;)

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« Reply #292 on: November 29, 2013, 07:28:09 AM »
Cathedral of the Immaculate Conception, Kansas City, MO.

Pre-Vatican II Iconoclasm:



What is there today:



After lengthy renovations completed in 2003, here we have the new cathedral, where the altar is placed in the center of the nave with pews facing from each direction. I was going to go and visit this cathedral this week until I saw pictures of the interior. It seems so wrong!

Sorry, but that's pathetic.
That thing looks like a cross between a synagouge, mosque and masonic hall.

Bascially what a lot of the post-conciliar church has become these days.

You're right, pathetic.
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« Reply #293 on: November 29, 2013, 07:42:38 AM »
Like in place of the priest's lectern? Why not that but a table? Is there no limit on making stuff up as thwy go along?

Just conjecture, but perhaps because of the recent emphasis on the "Liturgy of the Word" and "Liturgy of the Eucharist," and to show they are equally taken seriously or something.

A more recent picture (I actually know one of the girls in it):


Just another abomination in the form of the new "mass". Those kids look just thrilled to be partaking in the new "liturgy" and Eucharistic "meal" at the "table" of the Lord. And look at how these kids dress, you mean to tell me if you were to come before a king the best you could do is throw on a hoodie or some cheezy plaid button up shirt over a t-shirt? But the reality is, that these youths don't really understand the reality of what's going on since the majesty has been removed from the N.O. which has failed them in many ways.And just who is that woman on the left in the vestment? Oh , let me guess, either an "altar-girl" or Eucharistic "minister".......That's just great. ::)
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« Reply #294 on: November 29, 2013, 07:45:47 AM »
OK, so what's now wrong with that ginger guy's clothes?

And, frankly they look rather prayerful and serous.
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« Reply #295 on: November 29, 2013, 05:30:30 PM »
Like in place of the priest's lectern? Why not that but a table? Is there no limit on making stuff up as thwy go along?

Just conjecture, but perhaps because of the recent emphasis on the "Liturgy of the Word" and "Liturgy of the Eucharist," and to show they are equally taken seriously or something.

A more recent picture (I actually know one of the girls in it):




Just another abomination in the form of the new "mass". Those kids look just thrilled to be partaking in the new "liturgy" and Eucharistic "meal" at the "table" of the Lord. And look at how these kids dress, you mean to tell me if you were to come before a king the best you could do is throw on a hoodie or some cheezy plaid button up shirt over a t-shirt? But the reality is, that these youths don't really understand the reality of what's going on since the majesty has been removed from the N.O. which has failed them in many ways.And just who is that woman on the left in the vestment? Oh , let me guess, either an "altar-girl" or Eucharistic "minister".......That's just great. ::)

From the looks of it they're all Extraordinary Ministers of Holy Communion(note the purificators over their arms)
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« Reply #296 on: November 29, 2013, 06:21:42 PM »
By the way Mor Ephrem and ialmisry , Orthodoc sends his regards. 

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