Author Topic: terrible nightmares...  (Read 1974 times)

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

Offline Tikhon.of.Colorado

  • Site Supporter
  • Archon
  • *****
  • Posts: 2,375
terrible nightmares...
« on: September 05, 2010, 06:25:08 AM »
I have been having the worse nightmares.  just now, I dreamed that my father lit my dogs on fire, and someone broke into my house and cut up my mom's face, killing her.  now it's 4:30am, and I can't go back to sleep.  I have liturgy in 5 hours.  is there anyway to stop bad dreams?

Offline Vzldrb

  • Elder
  • *****
  • Posts: 283
Re: terrible nightmares...
« Reply #1 on: September 05, 2010, 06:52:35 AM »
Hi Trevor,

Search the forum. That would be a good start. Others will have better answers than I do, but all I remember is there being a thread about nightmares elsewhere that was full of information.

Richard

Offline LBK

  • No Reporting Allowed
  • Toumarches
  • ************
  • Posts: 12,621
  • Holy Father Patrick, pray for us!
  • Faith: Orthodox
Re: terrible nightmares...
« Reply #2 on: September 05, 2010, 06:53:53 AM »
Trevor, may I suggest you pray the Jesus Prayer repeatedly from when you go to bed, until sleep overcomes you.
Am I posting? Or is it Schroedinger's Cat?

Offline LizaSymonenko

  • Слава Ісусу Христу!!! Glory to Jesus Christ!!!
  • Global Moderator
  • Toumarches
  • ******
  • Posts: 14,024
    • St.Mary the Protectress Ukrainian Orthodox Cathedral
  • Faith: Eastern Orthodox
  • Jurisdiction: Ukrainian Orthodox Church of the U.S.A.
Re: terrible nightmares...
« Reply #3 on: September 05, 2010, 06:54:47 AM »
Make the sign of the Cross, recite the Lord's Prayer...and DON'T allow them to "mess" with your mind.  Don't dwell on them.  If you can't sleep...get up and do something, read something...stop thinking about the nightmare... And DON'T "believe" any of it.  Pray.
Conquer evil men by your gentle kindness, and make zealous men wonder at your goodness. Put the lover of legality to shame by your compassion. With the afflicted be afflicted in mind. Love all men, but keep distant from all men.
—St. Isaac of Syria

Offline Azul

  • High Elder
  • ******
  • Posts: 988
Re: terrible nightmares...
« Reply #4 on: September 05, 2010, 07:02:48 AM »
The Lord`s prayer and courage..
Every formula of every religion has in this age of reason, to submit to the acid test of reason and universal assent.
Mahatma Gandhi

Offline Gebre Menfes Kidus

  • "SERVANT of The HOLY SPIRIT"
  • Merarches
  • ***********
  • Posts: 8,974
  • "Lord Have Mercy on Me a Sinner!"
    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?ref=profile&id=1456515775
Re: terrible nightmares...
« Reply #5 on: September 05, 2010, 07:20:50 AM »
Go to Liturgy, even if it means staying awake until then.

http://mysteryandmeaning.blogspot.com/2010/08/spiritual-warfare.html

Selam
« Last Edit: September 05, 2010, 07:21:59 AM by Gebre Menfes Kidus »
""Love is a dangerous thing. It will crush you if you trust it. But without it you can never be whole. Love crucifies, but love saves. We will either be saved together with love, or damned alone without it."    Selam, +GMK+

Offline biro

  • Site Supporter
  • Hoplitarches
  • *****
  • Posts: 17,375
Re: terrible nightmares...
« Reply #6 on: September 05, 2010, 07:35:09 AM »
If it helps, you may wish to try this:

http://tasbeha.org/content/hh_books/Calmness/index.html

 :angel:

I hope you are well soon.


Offline Azul

  • High Elder
  • ******
  • Posts: 988
Re: terrible nightmares...
« Reply #7 on: September 05, 2010, 07:52:15 AM »
Also don`t pay attention to it.. They are all illusions..

Every formula of every religion has in this age of reason, to submit to the acid test of reason and universal assent.
Mahatma Gandhi

Offline Azul

  • High Elder
  • ******
  • Posts: 988
Re: terrible nightmares...
« Reply #8 on: September 05, 2010, 07:54:17 AM »
P.S I don`t think that your nightmare is so terrible.. Others on nightmares like that one would snore  :angel: :laugh:
Every formula of every religion has in this age of reason, to submit to the acid test of reason and universal assent.
Mahatma Gandhi

Offline biro

  • Site Supporter
  • Hoplitarches
  • *****
  • Posts: 17,375
Re: terrible nightmares...
« Reply #9 on: September 05, 2010, 07:55:50 AM »
Some chant music may be spiritually helpful.  

http://ancientfaith.com/

Offline Entscheidungsproblem

  • Formerly Friul & Nebelpfade
  • Protokentarchos
  • *********
  • Posts: 4,495
    • Amsterdam Declaration 2002
Re: terrible nightmares...
« Reply #10 on: September 05, 2010, 08:12:25 AM »
Don't pay any attention to them.  Your brain is somewhat starved of external stimuli while you sleep, so it only has information stored in memory to pass the time (bouncing signals back at itself).
As a result of a thousand million years of evolution, the universe is becoming conscious of itself, able to understand something of its past history and its possible future.
-- Sir Julian Sorell Huxley FRS

Offline vamrat

  • Vamratoraptor
  • Merarches
  • ***********
  • Posts: 8,775
  • Faith: Serbian Orthodox
  • Jurisdiction: Diocese of New Gracanica
Re: terrible nightmares...
« Reply #11 on: September 05, 2010, 01:22:18 PM »
The best remedy for nightmares depends a lot on what sort of dream you had.  The vast majority of dreams you have is your mind showing you pictures and playing through events just to keep it occupied.  Some of these will be disturbing (especially if you watch horror movies, have been in war or a traumatic event, or have had other disturbing input) others will be benign and/or silly.  Prayer is an important thing and praying right after a disturbing dream is a good idea in that you are turning to God when you are afraid.  But ultimately, praying over bad dream is like praying when the dishes in the sink have developed a new form of mold or you spilled soda on the carpet.  The best thing you can do after a disturbing dream is to find something to anchor you back into the real world.  Pick a hobby or an interest and read about it for a bit.  When I have a bad dream I either paint some model tanks or read about them.  That way when I do back to bed I am thinking about the transmission on a T34 rather than my flaming cat setting my bed on fire.

Or, if prayer is the thing that helps you anchor then go for it.  Just for me, if I am praying about something it is generally important, and the ultimate goal is to reduce the importance of the dream.

As a caveat, if the dream is about a man clothed in light telling you to do something, start praying and seek spiritual guidance.
Das ist des Jägers Ehrenschild, daß er beschützt und hegt sein Wild, weidmännisch jagt, wie sich’s gehört, den Schöpfer im Geschöpfe ehrt.

Offline Gamliel

  • Archon
  • ********
  • Posts: 3,023
  • ὁ δὲ ἀνεξέταστον βίος οὐ βιωτὸς ἀνθρώπῳ
  • Faith: Orthodox
  • Jurisdiction: Metropolis of San Francisco
Re: terrible nightmares...
« Reply #12 on: September 05, 2010, 02:45:55 PM »
May the LORD have mercy and may the LORD be with you.

Offline mike

  • Stratopedarches
  • **************
  • Posts: 22,589
Re: terrible nightmares...
« Reply #13 on: September 05, 2010, 04:26:12 PM »
A couple of days ago I had a dream that I was a novitiate on Athos. THAT was spooky.
Hyperdox Herman, Eastern Orthodox Christian News - fb, Eastern Orthodox Christian News - tt

not everything I typed before [insert current date] may reflect my current views on the subject

Offline Tikhon.of.Colorado

  • Site Supporter
  • Archon
  • *****
  • Posts: 2,375
Re: terrible nightmares...
« Reply #14 on: September 05, 2010, 04:32:30 PM »
well, it helped me to not be so shaken up to get my mind on REAL matters today at liturgy.  I also had a dream after my original post that a man was offering me birth control, and I said "no thanks, I'm a monk".   :o 

I guess we just dream silly things sometimes!

Offline Marc1152

  • Hoplitarches
  • *************
  • Posts: 14,574
  • Probiotic .. Antibiotic
  • Jurisdiction: Rocor
Re: terrible nightmares...
« Reply #15 on: September 05, 2010, 05:23:38 PM »
I have been having the worse nightmares.  just now, I dreamed that my father lit my dogs on fire, and someone broke into my house and cut up my mom's face, killing her.  now it's 4:30am, and I can't go back to sleep.  I have liturgy in 5 hours.  is there anyway to stop bad dreams?

Put an Icon of a Saint you normally pray to under your pillow.
Your idea has been debunked 1000 times already.. Maybe 1001 will be the charm

Offline Tikhon.of.Colorado

  • Site Supporter
  • Archon
  • *****
  • Posts: 2,375
Re: terrible nightmares...
« Reply #16 on: September 07, 2010, 07:27:23 PM »
well, for the last four nights I've had nightmares.  last night, I slept with a blessed icon of the theotokos by my bed, and Church hymns playing.  I didn't have a nightmare!  hooray!!!! :D

Offline LizaSymonenko

  • Слава Ісусу Христу!!! Glory to Jesus Christ!!!
  • Global Moderator
  • Toumarches
  • ******
  • Posts: 14,024
    • St.Mary the Protectress Ukrainian Orthodox Cathedral
  • Faith: Eastern Orthodox
  • Jurisdiction: Ukrainian Orthodox Church of the U.S.A.
Re: terrible nightmares...
« Reply #17 on: September 07, 2010, 07:38:07 PM »


;)
Conquer evil men by your gentle kindness, and make zealous men wonder at your goodness. Put the lover of legality to shame by your compassion. With the afflicted be afflicted in mind. Love all men, but keep distant from all men.
—St. Isaac of Syria

Offline Marc1152

  • Hoplitarches
  • *************
  • Posts: 14,574
  • Probiotic .. Antibiotic
  • Jurisdiction: Rocor
Re: terrible nightmares...
« Reply #18 on: September 07, 2010, 08:48:38 PM »
Hooray !!!

Don't forget to give thanks and help someone else next time that you can.
Your idea has been debunked 1000 times already.. Maybe 1001 will be the charm

Offline Tikhon.of.Colorado

  • Site Supporter
  • Archon
  • *****
  • Posts: 2,375
Re: terrible nightmares...
« Reply #19 on: September 07, 2010, 09:14:49 PM »
Hooray !!!

Don't forget to give thanks and help someone else next time that you can.
totally!  I'm starting to grow a special devotion to the Theotokos!


most holy Lady, Mother of God, save us!

Offline monkvasyl

  • High Elder
  • ******
  • Posts: 653
Re: terrible nightmares...
« Reply #20 on: September 08, 2010, 10:26:48 AM »
My spiritual father always said 3am was the worse time for nightmares. His suggestion was to make the Sign of the Cross and go back to sleep.  I've done that and I sleep like a baby tillthe alarm clock or my beagles wake me up.  I used to have nightmares so bad I was afraid to go back to sleep.
The unworthy hierodeacon, Vasyl

Offline Papist

  • Patriarch of Pontification
  • Toumarches
  • ************
  • Posts: 13,293
  • An Ideal to Strive Towards
Re: terrible nightmares...
« Reply #21 on: September 08, 2010, 02:01:14 PM »
Lord, have mercy.

Do EOs normally pray to St. Michael the Archangel for protection?
My posts no longer forum here.

Offline Shanghaiski

  • Taxiarches
  • **********
  • Posts: 7,978
  • Holy Trinity Church of Gergeti, Georgia
Re: terrible nightmares...
« Reply #22 on: September 09, 2010, 12:12:12 PM »
Lord, have mercy.

Do EOs normally pray to St. Michael the Archangel for protection?

Certainly.

But, for nighttime prayers, it's more common to say this prayer, blessing your bed with your cross (and sprinkling some holy water if you wish):

"Let God arise and let His enemies be scattered, and let them that hate Him flee from before His face! As smoke vanisheth, so let them vanish. As wax melteth before the fire, so let the demons perish from before the presence of them that love Christ, and who say with gladness, 'Rejoice, O most holy and precious Cross of the Lord, for thou drivest away the demons by the power of the Lord Jesus Christ Who was crucified upon thee, Who descended into hades and Who trampled on the power of the devil, and Who gave us thee, His precious, holy, and lifegiving Cross for the driving away of every adversary.' O most holy and lifegiving Cross of the Lord, help me together with the most holy Lady Theotokos and with all the saints, now and ever and unto the ages of ages. Amen."

(I'm going from memory here, so it may be a bit off.)
Quote from: GabrieltheCelt
If you spend long enough on this forum, you'll come away with all sorts of weird, untrue ideas of Orthodox Christianity.
Quote from: orthonorm
I would suggest most persons in general avoid any question beginning with why.

Offline Marc1152

  • Hoplitarches
  • *************
  • Posts: 14,574
  • Probiotic .. Antibiotic
  • Jurisdiction: Rocor
Re: terrible nightmares...
« Reply #23 on: September 09, 2010, 12:24:28 PM »
Lord, have mercy.

Do EOs normally pray to St. Michael the Archangel for protection?

As I write this, I am staring at an icon of St. Michael on the wall above my computer screen in my office.
Your idea has been debunked 1000 times already.. Maybe 1001 will be the charm

Offline Papist

  • Patriarch of Pontification
  • Toumarches
  • ************
  • Posts: 13,293
  • An Ideal to Strive Towards
Re: terrible nightmares...
« Reply #24 on: September 09, 2010, 01:54:16 PM »
St. Michael the Archangel,

Protect Trevor from all evil.
My posts no longer forum here.