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« Reply #135 on: November 30, 2010, 04:14:08 PM »

Any statistics on ROCOR Western Rite?

I remember they just received 10 new parishes with 18 priests from the HOCACA earlier this month.
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« Reply #136 on: November 30, 2010, 07:35:41 PM »

Any statistics on ROCOR Western Rite?

I remember they just received 10 new parishes with 18 priests from the HOCACA earlier this month.

A significant event (1) and one which gives hope to ROCA's Western Rite since up until now our Western Rite has been three or four isolated monks.  Now we have parishes, albeit small.   I had a small personal involvement with this matter.

There are

2 bishops (now archimandrites) (2)

10 priests

3 deacons

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1. Here is the announcement by Archbishop Anthony [Bondi]
http://www.orthodoxchristianity.net/forum/index.php/topic,31194.msg492286/topicseen.html#msg492286

2. To be accurate, the senior hierarch has not yet been ordained in ROCA but is waiting until all his priests are ordained.  That will be mid December.

Btw, the figure of 18 comes about by counting 3 subdeacons and 1 nun.
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« Reply #137 on: November 30, 2010, 07:48:31 PM »

Any statistics on ROCOR Western Rite?

I remember they just received 10 new parishes with 18 priests from the HOCACA earlier this month.

A significant event (1) and one which gives hope to ROCA's Western Rite since up until now our Western Rite has been three or four isolated monks.  Now we have parishes, albeit small.   I had a small personal involvement with this matter.

There are

2 bishops (now archimandrites) (2)

10 priests

3 deacons

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1. Here is the announcement by Archbishop Anthony [Bondi]
http://www.orthodoxchristianity.net/forum/index.php/topic,31194.msg492286/topicseen.html#msg492286

2. To be accurate, the senior hierarch has not yet been ordained in ROCA but is waiting until all his priests are ordained.  That will be mid December.

Btw, the figure of 18 comes about by counting 3 subdeacons and 1 nun.

When you say small parishes, what do you consider small?
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« Reply #138 on: November 30, 2010, 07:53:40 PM »

Any statistics on ROCOR Western Rite?

I remember they just received 10 new parishes with 18 priests from the HOCACA earlier this month.

A significant event (1) and one which gives hope to ROCA's Western Rite since up until now our Western Rite has been three or four isolated monks.  Now we have parishes, albeit small.   I had a small personal involvement with this matter.

There are

2 bishops (now archimandrites) (2)

10 priests

3 deacons

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1. Here is the announcement by Archbishop Anthony [Bondi]
http://www.orthodoxchristianity.net/forum/index.php/topic,31194.msg492286/topicseen.html#msg492286

2. To be accurate, the senior hierarch has not yet been ordained in ROCA but is waiting until all his priests are ordained.  That will be mid December.

Btw, the figure of 18 comes about by counting 3 subdeacons and 1 nun.
The consecration of bishops hopefully will be a game changer.  A little trivia: the first Orthodox bishop of Washington DC was Bp. Igantius Nichols, ordained by Abp. Aftimos, Bp. Joseph Zuk of the UOC, and Bp. Sophronius Bishara. He was consecrated in the Brooklyn Cathedral (site of St. Raphael's consecration, the first in the new world), the first of a born American and convert, for the Western Rite Vicarate and English speaking Americans.  He lasted 10 months before going vaganti (he is responsibility for several lines), but his successor brought his group back into the Antiochian Archdiocese as the Western Rite Vicarate.
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« Reply #139 on: November 30, 2010, 08:12:45 PM »

Any statistics on ROCOR Western Rite?

I remember they just received 10 new parishes with 18 priests from the HOCACA earlier this month.

A significant event (1) and one which gives hope to ROCA's Western Rite since up until now our Western Rite has been three or four isolated monks.  Now we have parishes, albeit small.   I had a small personal involvement with this matter.

There are

2 bishops (now archimandrites) (2)

10 priests

3 deacons

______________________

1. Here is the announcement by Archbishop Anthony [Bondi]
http://www.orthodoxchristianity.net/forum/index.php/topic,31194.msg492286/topicseen.html#msg492286

2. To be accurate, the senior hierarch has not yet been ordained in ROCA but is waiting until all his priests are ordained.  That will be mid December.

Btw, the figure of 18 comes about by counting 3 subdeacons and 1 nun.
The consecration of bishops hopefully will be a game changer.  A little trivia: the first Orthodox bishop of Washington DC was Bp. Igantius Nichols, ordained by Abp. Aftimos, Bp. Joseph Zuk of the UOC, and Bp. Sophronius Bishara. He was consecrated in the Brooklyn Cathedral (site of St. Raphael's consecration, the first in the new world), the first of a born American and convert, for the Western Rite Vicarate and English speaking Americans.  He lasted 10 months before going vaganti (he is responsibility for several lines), but his successor brought his group back into the Antiochian Archdiocese as the Western Rite Vicarate.

I hope so.
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« Reply #140 on: November 30, 2010, 08:19:25 PM »


The consecration of bishops hopefully will be a game changer.  


The two bishops are being ordained priests and elevated to the rank of archimandrite.
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« Reply #141 on: November 30, 2010, 08:21:48 PM »

The two bishops are being ordained priests and elevated to the rank of archimandrite.

Didn't ******** have a wife?  Huh
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« Reply #142 on: November 30, 2010, 08:27:58 PM »

The two bishops are being ordained priests and elevated to the rank of archimandrite.

Didn't ******** have a wife?  Huh

Indeed he did but that is not unusual. ******** had three wives and three divorces.
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« Reply #143 on: November 30, 2010, 08:28:30 PM »


The consecration of bishops hopefully will be a game changer.  


The two bishops are being ordained priests and elevated to the rank of archimandrite.

I tried using wiki, but I'm not very familiar with an archimandrite.
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« Reply #144 on: November 30, 2010, 08:33:18 PM »

Indeed he did but that is not unusual.  ******** had three wives and three divorces.

Did ******** divorce in order to be received into the ROCOR as a priest-monk?
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« Reply #145 on: November 30, 2010, 08:54:14 PM »

Indeed he did but that is not unusual. ******** had three wives and three divorces.

Did ******** divorce in order to be received into the ROCOR as a priest-monk?

I have just had a PM on the subject of your question reminding me of the moderatorial instructions given for this thread by Father Anastasios.  See message 123.
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« Reply #146 on: November 30, 2010, 09:00:14 PM »

See message 123.

Haven't seen it before. The intention of my question was to get to know if Abp. Anthony decided for that kind of step which was taken for example by the late Patriarch Alexy II of Moscow or the late Metropolitan Basil of Warsaw. Nevermind.
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« Reply #147 on: November 30, 2010, 09:58:40 PM »

Please refrain from gossip or speculation about individuals. If this continues this thread will be locked. This thread is about liturgical practices of the Western Rite. Please keep the discussion limited to this area and take any other discussion to their appropriate section. I am going through this entire thread and removing any names or identifications of specific people and replacing them with ********

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