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« on: August 24, 2010, 04:00:11 PM »

I took some pictures of several Ukrainian churches from the Chicagoland area. These churches represent the 3 major Ukrainian churches the UOCUSA under Constantinople, the Ukrainian Orthodox Church-Kyivan Patriarchate, and the Ukrainian Catholic Church. Whatever your beliefs, we all agree that the Ukrainian Churches are beautiful, inside and out.

Please any thoughts on the architecture, iconostasis are welcome.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/43982287@N05/sets/72157624799422872/with/4924448346/
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« Reply #1 on: August 24, 2010, 04:22:25 PM »

I took some pictures of several Ukrainian churches from the Chicagoland area. These churches represent the 3 major Ukrainian churches the UOCUSA under Constantinople, the Ukrainian Orthodox Church-Kyivan Patriarchate, and the Ukrainian Catholic Church. Whatever your beliefs, we all agree that the Ukrainian Churches are beautiful, inside and out.

Please any thoughts on the architecture, iconostasis are welcome.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/43982287@N05/sets/72157624799422872/with/4924448346/
This is the Ukrainian Church i attended for Pacha a few yrs, back...I didn't care for the ikonastasis at all..i prefer the greek style.....The other thing i didn't care about was the eastern catholic bishop and clergy participated in the service and the prosession,that made me so angry, i never went back.... Angry

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« Reply #2 on: August 24, 2010, 04:24:41 PM »


Stashko, what do you mean by "participated"?  Were they actually in the Altar?

Thanks for lovely photos Cossack.  Who is officiating in photo:  DSCF0359?
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« Reply #3 on: August 24, 2010, 04:28:46 PM »


Stashko, what do you mean by "participated"?  Were they actually in the Altar?

Thanks for lovely photos Cossack.  Who is officiating in photo:  DSCF0359?

The eastern Catholic Bishop was vested and mitre with his clergy, inside the Altar ,they lead the prosession with orthodox Bishop.... You Mention That the Orthodox metropolitan / bishop Past away it was the time he was alive that it happened..I mentioned this before and thats when you mentioned there was a new Metropolitan...
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« Reply #4 on: August 24, 2010, 04:31:54 PM »

Liza, that I believe is Patriarch Filaret of the UOCKP when he came to bless the new mosiac of St. Andrews.
Stashko, I doubt it was an Eastern Catholic bishop who served when you visited St. Volodymyr's for pasca a few years back. St. Volodymyr is Ukrainian Orthodox under the Eccumenical Patriarch and eastern catholic bishops 1, typically dont follow the old calendar which the Ukrainian Orthodox do and 2, it was probably Archbishop Vsevelod of blessed memory you are recalling as he would have served at his cathedral for pascha. Archbishop Vsevelod was an Archbishop under the UOCUSA under Constantinople.
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« Reply #5 on: August 24, 2010, 04:35:58 PM »

Liza, that I believe is Patriarch Filaret of the UOCKP when he came to bless the new mosiac of St. Andrews.
Stashko, I doubt it was an Eastern Catholic bishop who served when you visited St. Volodymyr's for pasca a few years back. St. Volodymyr is Ukrainian Orthodox under the Eccumenical Patriarch and eastern catholic bishops 1, typically dont follow the old calendar which the Ukrainian Orthodox do and 2, it was probably Archbishop Vsevelod of blessed memory you are recalling as he would have served at his cathedral for pascha. Archbishop Vsevelod was an Archbishop under the UOCUSA under Constantinople.

Yes some do...the eastern catholic ukrainians split the have two churches one new calander and one old calander across from one another, under the same Bishop though...It's here in chicago... Grin Plus the Orthodox one i posted is almost right around the corner...
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« Reply #6 on: August 24, 2010, 04:41:51 PM »

Old Calender Ukrainian Greek Catholic...chicago.. Grin Across from it is the New Calendar Greek Catholic Ukrainian Church on North Oakley....Both Very Nice on the inside the new calender has a confession booth the last time i visited it,.. Grin The Area that these church are located  is called Ukrainian Village....some call it wicker Park ..though.... Grin


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« Reply #7 on: August 24, 2010, 04:46:41 PM »

Greek Catholic Ukrainian..... Grin Altar is on the west side of this church ,they said architectural error,I Like the Outside of this Church ,,It really Ugly On the Inside though...





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« Reply #8 on: August 24, 2010, 05:23:20 PM »

Liza, that I believe is Patriarch Filaret of the UOCKP when he came to bless the new mosiac of St. Andrews.
Stashko, I doubt it was an Eastern Catholic bishop who served when you visited St. Volodymyr's for pasca a few years back. St. Volodymyr is Ukrainian Orthodox under the Eccumenical Patriarch and eastern catholic bishops 1, typically dont follow the old calendar which the Ukrainian Orthodox do and 2, it was probably Archbishop Vsevelod of blessed memory you are recalling as he would have served at his cathedral for pascha. Archbishop Vsevelod was an Archbishop under the UOCUSA under Constantinople.

Trust me It was the Eastern Catholics Clergy ,Because I asked who the were and i was told who they were ...The seating goes Downward like a amphitheater or stadium seating in this orthodox church..... Grin
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« Reply #9 on: August 24, 2010, 05:40:08 PM »

Found it.. Grin....the New Calender Ukrainian Eastern Catholic Church thats on North Oakley North of Chicago Ave. Across from the Old Calender Ukrainian Eastern Catholic Church ,south of chicago ave on Oakley......Both Are very Beautiful outside and in..... Grin


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« Reply #10 on: August 24, 2010, 06:54:43 PM »

I apologize, Stashko, I thought you meant you were in St. Volodymyr Ukrainian ORTHODOX church for Pascha and saw an Ukrainian Catholic Bishop, not in a Ukrainian Catholic Church. And you are right some Eastern Catholics are old calender and some are new.

I don't think however that either do the midnight liturgy that we orthodox do.
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« Reply #11 on: August 24, 2010, 07:06:31 PM »

The Eastern Catholic Bishop and his Clergy were At the Othodox Church at Pascha, in the Orthodox Altar and vested...To Me This sends Mixed signals to the Orthodox Faithful..Why Be Orthodox or Eastern Catholic just jump around ,whatever makes you feel good ,this i didn't care for, the mixed messages given by this act thats what angered me.... Grin
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« Reply #12 on: August 24, 2010, 07:10:20 PM »

Nice pictures. I agree Stashko seeing things like that is very disheartening.
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« Reply #13 on: August 24, 2010, 07:21:52 PM »

I might Have to go back to The Holy Ukrainian Orthodox Church ,and teach them ,Orthodoxy Or Death ,there's Nothing Else.....Just Pale Imitations ,stay away from them and all inter faith services... Grin
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« Reply #14 on: August 24, 2010, 07:33:03 PM »

Yeah we Ukrainians are a crazy people, no question about it. Personally, this is just my opinion, but I think the Ukrainian Catholic Church would be open to breaking away from Rome and joining with the Ukrainian Orthodox Church if and when the UOCKP is deemed cannonical. Most Ukrainians who are Ukrainian Catholic view themselves as more Orthodox than Catholic. Most of the Ukrainian Catholics dont even consider themselves Catholic, but Orthodox in Communion with Rome, the same way the UOCUSA are in communion with Constantinople.

Now I don't agree with that, if you recognize the pope as your supreme pontiff, then you are Catholic, but then again, I am Orthodox. Some day there will be 1 United Ukrainian Orthodox church maybe someday with the Ukrainian Catholics joining and leaving Rome. However due to money, politics, and hierarchs vanity on ALL SIDES, I doubt this will happen in my lifetime.
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« Reply #15 on: August 25, 2010, 03:24:40 AM »

This is a bit off topic but ...

Cossack - beautiful photos! I'm in the process of creating an on-line directory of Eastern & Oriental Catholic parishes and trying to illustrate each entry with an exterior and an interior photo, so that visitors can appreciate the beauty of our temples. Am just about to begin doing entries for the UGCC parishes in the US and would love to use a few of these photos to illustrate the entries for the Chicago-area parishes. I would, of course, credit them to you. Would you be willing to allow their use?

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« Reply #16 on: August 25, 2010, 11:22:06 AM »

Neil, by all means go ahead.
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« Reply #17 on: August 25, 2010, 11:43:02 AM »

Thanks for sharing these. When I visited last summer, I couldn't get into any of these buildings. They were all locked and nobody was around. This was on a Saturday evening so I had thought there would be vespers services, but I guess Ukrainians don't like Great Vespers?
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« Reply #18 on: August 25, 2010, 01:09:19 PM »

Thanks for sharing these. When I visited last summer, I couldn't get into any of these buildings. They were all locked and nobody was around. This was on a Saturday evening so I had thought there would be vespers services, but I guess Ukrainians don't like Great Vespers?


There is the Holy Ukrainian Orthodox Not Far From the two Easten Catholic Ones..It's Down the street from the New calander Ukrainian one...On North Oakley...Maybe eastern Catholics Go to the Ukrainian Orthodox Church for Vesper Services and other services that there churches cut out...... Grin
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« Reply #19 on: August 25, 2010, 02:03:44 PM »

I know my church does vespers on Saturday's  (St. Andrew's, blue roof, gold dome in pic) which is Ukrainian Orthodox. I don't think Ukrainian Catholic churches do vespers on Saturdays
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