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Oriental Orthodox Churches Council Meeting held at California
« on: August 18, 2010, 04:58:27 PM »

The Bishops of the Oriental Orthodox Churches accompanied by clergy representatives of the Western United States, met on Tuesday August 17th, 2010 and discussed issues of the mutual interests at St. Ephraim Syriac Orthodox Cathedral, Burbank, California.

The attendees of the Syriac Orthodox Church were: His Eminence Archbishop Mor Clemis Eugene with very Rev. Fr. Abdulahad Shara, and Rev. Fr. Louis Yacoub. From the Armenian Church were His Eminence Archbishop Moushegh Mardirossian, accompanied with Rev. Fr. Bartev Goulmian, and Rev. Fr. Vasken Atmajian. From the Coptic Orthodox Church His Grace Bishop Serapion, accompanied with Rev. Fr. Bishoy Kamel, and Fr. Anthony Attallah.

This year's annual joint  Divine Liturgy, will be held at St. Ephraim Cathedral, Burbank on Tuesday September 28th. It is decided to convene next meeting of the Oriental Orthodox Churches Council on Tuesday November 23rd.

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Re: Oriental Orthodox Churches Council Meeting held at California
« Reply #1 on: August 18, 2010, 05:09:02 PM »
Good news indeed, thanks be to God.

But what about the Indian, Ethiopian and Eritrean Orthodox representation?

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Re: Oriental Orthodox Churches Council Meeting held at California
« Reply #2 on: August 18, 2010, 05:27:26 PM »
I do not believe the Ethiopians have a permanent bishop in the US. I know on the East Coast their official representative for ecumenical events, such as concelebrated liturgies et c. is Fr. Michael Teklemariam.  The Eritreans I believe also lack a permanent bishop in the US, though I know H.G. Bishop Macarius of the Coptic synod is officially General Bishop of All Eritreans in North America (and his grace is based on the east coast). So perhaps by default, His Grace bishop Serapion represented them.

Not sure why the Malankaran bishop was not present unless he is considered represented by the Syriac bishop, or simply he had a conflict and could not make it.  Just speculating.
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Re: Oriental Orthodox Churches Council Meeting held at California
« Reply #3 on: August 18, 2010, 11:11:16 PM »
The Malankara Orthodox Syrian Church has two dioceses in the US now, one for the "Northeast" (meaning North and East) and one for the "Southwest" (meaning South and West). The latter is the relevant diocese here. I do know that their headquarters are in Houston. Perhaps that makes it difficult for them to get out to Southern California.

On the other hand, I noticed that the Armenian bishop is from the Catholicosate of Cilicia. There is also a local diocese for the Catholicoste of Etchmiadzin. Anyone know why there was not representation from the latter?
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Re: Oriental Orthodox Churches Council Meeting held at California
« Reply #4 on: August 19, 2010, 10:44:09 AM »
The Ethiopians do have an official bishop for the USA (Abune Matthias) by he is located on the East Coast.  Most of the bishops on the West Coast are affiliated with the Synod in Exile (although I'm happy to report that this group is putting out feelers to reunite with the Holy Synod in Addis).  The situation with the Eritreans is as PSFam described.  As for the Indian Orthodox Church, I'm not surprised that they weren't in attendance, as the event was apparently hosted by the SOC.  That being the case, the only Indian clergy you'd be likely to see would be from the Malankara Syriac Orthodox Church or the Knanaya Church.  The Syriac Church of course shuns the administratively independant IOC because of the conflict in India.  Every time one of these events is held here on the East Coast, the host Church (be they Coptic, Armenian, or whatever) is faced with an "either or" proposition: if you invite the SOC, you can't invite the IOC, or the SOC will walk out.  :(
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Re: Oriental Orthodox Churches Council Meeting held at California
« Reply #5 on: August 19, 2010, 11:46:33 AM »
We are fortunate that the Council of Oriental Orthodox Churches in the UK contains a comprehensive membership.

At the pan-Orthodox liturgy held at the Indian Orthodox Church last year the Syrian Orthodox Church was represented by their priest. The Chairman of the COOC is His Grace Dr. Mathews Mar Timotheos. While His Grace Archbishop Athanasios of the Syriac Orthodox Church is a valued and much loved member.

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Re: Oriental Orthodox Churches Council Meeting held at California
« Reply #6 on: August 19, 2010, 12:04:28 PM »
(although I'm happy to report that this group is putting out feelers to reunite with the Holy Synod in Addis). 

That's fantastic news! I know it will take some time to put things back in order after the havoc the Communists have wrought. But this is a great step.
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Re: Oriental Orthodox Churches Council Meeting held at California
« Reply #7 on: August 19, 2010, 12:36:59 PM »
We are fortunate that the Council of Oriental Orthodox Churches in the UK contains a comprehensive membership.

At the pan-Orthodox liturgy held at the Indian Orthodox Church last year the Syrian Orthodox Church was represented by their priest. The Chairman of the COOC is His Grace Dr. Mathews Mar Timotheos. While His Grace Archbishop Athanasios of the Syriac Orthodox Church is a valued and much loved member.

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Father, if you keep making the UK out to be a paradise of fellowship and brotherhood among the Oriental Orthodox, I'm going to have to petition to become a subject of Her Majesty's government.  I guess we would be a little more rough and tumble over here in the Colonies.

(although I'm happy to report that this group is putting out feelers to reunite with the Holy Synod in Addis).  

That's fantastic news! I know it will take some time to put things back in order after the havoc the Communists have wrought. But this is a great step.

Yeah, the Derg was the worst.  They butchered the Orthodox, tore the Church in two, and opened the gates for the heterodox "missionaries" and the Muslims.  I wish the Orthodox monarchy was still in place.  If the Pan-Orthodox Conference of 1965 and Fr. V.C. Samuel and Fr. Morcos Dawoud's work in the local seminaries were any indication, Ethiopia would probably be a nexus of Oriental Orthodox theological and cultural activity, and all of our Churches would probably have experienced a veritable renaissance there.

But this is indeed a great first step.  May God reunite the Church of Ethiopia!
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Re: Oriental Orthodox Churches Council Meeting held at California
« Reply #8 on: August 19, 2010, 01:27:06 PM »
To be quite honest, as much as I wish we can invite one of the other, we have to swallow our pride in our friendships and not invite any Syrian or Indian to these events, hoping that they can actually get together already and solve whatever problems they have with each other.  I wish our Church stops commemorating the Syrian Patriarch's name, and start commemorating the Armenian patriarch's name.

If we want to start acting like OO's, let us unite as OO's.  This is unacceptable behavior.  What are they children?  Most immature thing I have heard from bishops.
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