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« on: July 27, 2010, 07:45:38 PM »

Hello,

I am a catechumen who will soon (at least in an Orthodox frame of time Wink ) be baptized.  I need to choose a baptismal name, and I was wondering if it is acceptable to take "Augustine" as a baptismal name.  I ask because I know some Orthodox do not consider him to be a saint, and I personally have never heard of anyone taking his name for their baptismal name.  Reading Augustine's Confessions was the conversion experience for me (I was never Christian before), and so I have always felt very close to him.

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« Reply #1 on: July 27, 2010, 08:48:58 PM »

Hello,

I am a catechumen who will soon (at least in an Orthodox frame of time Wink ) be baptized.  I need to choose a baptismal name, and I was wondering if it is acceptable to take "Augustine" as a baptismal name.  I ask because I know some Orthodox do not consider him to be a saint, and I personally have never heard of anyone taking his name for their baptismal name.  Reading Augustine's Confessions was the conversion experience for me (I was never Christian before), and so I have always felt very close to him.

Thank you

It's perfect, Augustine is most definitely a Saint! Wink
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« Reply #2 on: July 27, 2010, 08:50:31 PM »

Hello,

I am a catechumen who will soon (at least in an Orthodox frame of time Wink ) be baptized.  I need to choose a baptismal name, and I was wondering if it is acceptable to take "Augustine" as a baptismal name.  I ask because I know some Orthodox do not consider him to be a saint, and I personally have never heard of anyone taking his name for their baptismal name.  Reading Augustine's Confessions was the conversion experience for me (I was never Christian before), and so I have always felt very close to him.

Thank you
It's a perfectly Orthodox name. The Orthodox that don't consider him a Saint do so because of some anti-Western bias or they judge his theological errors as a rejection of his sanctity. If I was not born with a Christian name I would have taken either Ambrose or Augustine. St. John of Shanghai and San Francisco composed a service to St. Augustine.

Have you read the book on St. Augustine by Blessed Seraphim of Platina? If not, you can find it here. I am currently reading it and I love it. Blessed Augustine was a big inspiration for Blessed Seraphim, too. I pray God will bless you as you prepare to enter His Church!

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« Reply #3 on: July 27, 2010, 08:55:19 PM »

There's a very traditional bishop in Greece, and a departed Athonite elder who shared St. Augustine's name. St. John of San Francisco celebrated his feast day. St. Nicodemus of the Holy Mountain added his feast day to the calendar, along with St. Jerome. Many Orthodox holy fathers have honored him as is meet. It is true, his theology has errors and problems arose after his death with those who discounted those who corrected his errors, but St. Augustine of Hippo is an Orthodox saint.
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« Reply #4 on: July 27, 2010, 09:50:05 PM »

Yes, his feast day in 15 June. It is perfectly acceptable to choose him as your patron saint.
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« Reply #5 on: July 27, 2010, 10:02:27 PM »

Just as in English we only say "St." Bede out of laziness when referring to Bede the Venerable, Augustine of Hippo is known in Orthodoxy as "Blessed Augustine."

Are there any other figures in the calendar of movable feasts who have published their "confessions" in such excruciating detail? For my part, I'm not even sure that I would recommend Augustine's Confessions as Church literature at all! The City of God, might be another story, I don't know. I have never read it in full (few do), and it's been a long time since I read any excerpts. He wrote polemics against the Manichaeans too--interesting sect.

But compare those offerings with say, The Ladder of Divine Ascent... Huge difference.

Are any miracles attributed to Blessed Augustine? I mean in the Orthodox Church.
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« Reply #6 on: July 27, 2010, 10:10:24 PM »

Dear Taylor,

At least one Greek bishop is named for Saint Augustine -Bishop Augustine of Florina, a conservative curmudgeon of a bishop who forbids nude bathing on Greek beaches.

Btw, a common form of the name of Augustine in England is Austin.
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« Reply #7 on: July 27, 2010, 10:29:46 PM »

Dear Taylor,

At least one Greek bishop is named for Saint Augustine -Bishop Augustine of Florina, a conservative curmudgeon of a bishop who forbids nude bathing on Greek beaches.

Btw, a common form of the name of Augustine in England is Austin.


Many years to the holy bishop! May God grant him to live forever and crush his enemies under his feet!

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« Reply #8 on: July 27, 2010, 10:30:27 PM »

Dear Taylor,

At least one Greek bishop is named for Saint Augustine -Bishop Augustine of Florina, a conservative curmudgeon of a bishop who forbids nude bathing on Greek beaches.

Btw, a common form of the name of Augustine in England is Austin.


Many years to the holy bishop! May God grant him to live forever and crush his enemies under his feet!

Whoops! Sorry, Father, that looked like it was coming from you. I apologize.

The same as above, mike.
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« Reply #9 on: July 27, 2010, 11:11:35 PM »

Just as in English we only say "St." Bede out of laziness when referring to Bede the Venerable, Augustine of Hippo is known in Orthodoxy as "Blessed Augustine."

Are there any other figures in the calendar of movable feasts who have published their "confessions" in such excruciating detail? For my part, I'm not even sure that I would recommend Augustine's Confessions as Church literature at all! The City of God, might be another story, I don't know. I have never read it in full (few do), and it's been a long time since I read any excerpts. He wrote polemics against the Manichaeans too--interesting sect.

But compare those offerings with say, The Ladder of Divine Ascent... Huge difference.

Are any miracles attributed to Blessed Augustine? I mean in the Orthodox Church.

Your analysis of St. Augustine is wrong, pure and simple.  He is an Orthodox saint. 

His Confessions are purely Orthodox and I challenge you to name me one other church father who preaches the life of repentance as much as he!  As for your assertion that no one else on the calendar has any confessions, I would disagree.  have you ever read St. Ephraim the Syrian's Spiritual Psalter?  augustine's Confessions is the microcosm of the Christian life.  St. Ephraim the Syrian's Spiritual Psalter is autobiographical though he never mentions his own name, but it too is the microcosm of the Christian life.

What difference does it make if any miracles are attributed to St. Augustine?  Not every saint has miracles attributed to him.
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« Reply #10 on: July 27, 2010, 11:21:48 PM »

St Augustine of Hippo is not the only Orthodox saint by that name. There are several others, including Augustine of Canterbury, two pre-schism western European saints, a Russian new-martyr, and a female martyr (Augustina).
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« Reply #12 on: July 28, 2010, 02:53:48 PM »

St. Bede is also an Orthodox Saint, commemorated May 27th.
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« Reply #13 on: July 29, 2010, 02:56:23 PM »

The philosopher from North Africa was not the only early saint named Augustine!

Every English Christian probably knows that the Angles were converted thanks to efforts of St. Augustine of Canterbury, the Apostle of the English who reposed in the Lord in 598 AD.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Augustine_of_Canterbury

http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/02081a.htm

http://www.orthodoxengland.org.uk/augustin.htm

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