Hey Catholics! Give us a brake, dears.
The Vatican's preoccupation with abortion is a little disturbing, especially given the fact that the entire establishment of the Roman Catholic Church has proven literally hundreds of thousands of times in the modern era that they have no concern whatever for the welfare of children. The Popes have even been complicit in vast cover-ups of of child rape.
For my part, I don't want to see any more anti-abortion propaganda from Catholics until their "Church" ceases to be a criminal organization. Okay?
Frankly, I don't care what you want to see. Evil is evil.
Many of us, Catholic dears, believe that all sexual evils, which include abortion, are the result of a contraceptive mentality, and an indulgence of all passions including gluttony...So I am a Catholic of the fasting sort and there are others like me believe it or not.
So when Catholics finally realize that their patrimony of ascetic discipline is the answer to man's humanity to man in a fallen state, then perhaps we'll all be getting somewhere.
In the meantime Orthodoxy can use some work on the abortion/artificial contraception nexus...and until I see better proof than the protests I am seeing here I will go with what I have seen in the majority out in the real world.
Like you, I want to see a bit of sustained evidence.
Theory versus praxis, madame.
Mozart was mentioned on another thread. Interesting character. He made cultural productions (viz. music) like no one else of his time, and his music theory was flawless. He was also debauched and generally untrustworthy on a personal basis.
As a fellow once said, it is possible to be more Catholic than the Pope. I hope that you are just that. But to propagandize with this bloody red herring (which does in fact detract from the child rape issue whether it is intended to or not) casts a shadow of doubt on your authenticity. Sorry. It just does.
Note the title of this thread:
Patriarch: Pope Is Like-Minded on Morals, Values
My contention is that the Patriarch is substantially wrong. There is no parity morally between Catholics and Orthodox.
All you have done is further prove my point.
I don't know why the Patriarch bothers. He should spend more time on this Forum. Here is where he'd find his answers to the moral crisis. Not with the Vatican!! Bloody red herrings and all. Perhaps he might even be able to forget that Orthodoxy has an issue with sexual abuse at all if he spent more time here.
Did you see where a Lutheran bishop just resigned when it became apparent that she sheltered a sexual predator?
I found that interesting because when the sexual predator stories began to break in the Catholic Church, there was an evangelical Lutheran pastor insisting that the Lutheran Church should be consulted because they had been enforcing zero tolerance for a long time.
My guess is that the Orthodox feel the same way, and more. It is always good to know that there are some confessions out here that have no difficulties with sexual predators of any kind.
Only question I have is that when the Catholic Church succeeds in keeping this kind of individual out of their seminaries..which they are working very hard to do now...where will they go then?