Topic: Antiochian and Age

[militantsparrow]

I have two questions:

• Are all Antiochian Liturgies Western?
• What is the oldest Liturgy still in use?

Thank you

[Father Peter]

You should read Dom Gregory Dix, the Shape of the Liturgy, for a great overview.

Antiochian liturgies are not Western except those exceptions that are. :-)

All Orthodox liturgies contain ancient components. Their final structures are more recent but still very old.

Father Peter

[militantsparrow]

You should read Dom Gregory Dix, the Shape of the Liturgy, for a great overview.

Antiochian liturgies are not Western except those exceptions that are. :-)

All Orthodox liturgies contain ancient components. Their final structures are more recent but still very old.

Father Peter

Thank you, Father.
I wil have to get that book. Is there any Western Liturgy in the Orthodox churches that is ancient? Or is the Western exception purely a result of Westerners entering Orthodoxy?

[Fr.Patapios]

Antiochian Liturgies are not western. The only western part is the one that is used by the western rite within the Antiochian church in USA only. As for your question regarding the oldest shapes of liturgies this link includes detailed articles in this matter

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[militantsparrow]

Father,
I was able to check out that link before it was moderated. It is very interesting and helpful. Thank you for sharing it.