Your attempts at sarcasm are getting downright funny. You came on here making all kinds of outlandish claims as if they were authoritative and as if you were going to teach those here
Bless'ed Love To All,
No actually Im trying not to say things to you that another man who has love for all would say to another so by no means are they funny. From what I see and have been instructed this is a forum a place where people come to express their views. I ascerted no authority you and others just didnt like what I said and YOU took offense not me which is why we are entertaining this......Se'lah
No, check the very first post you made. You came off like some sort of an authority privy to a hidden knowledge that others in the world generally didn't have. However, most of this seems to have had no basis in any authentic ancient tradition.
Stuff about fictional Masonic orders that never existed, about an order that “predates all current forms so the changes are younger than the origional info of ancient times that I have been taught” and yet seems to have really originated with a guy who chased you down the street in the Southern United States, claims that “Judaism started in the land of Salem(mesopatamia)ancient times. At this time Mesopotemia was in the african region of Sheba not modern day Iran” when Salem (Jerusalem) was never in Mesopotamia and Mesopotamia was never in Iran, Africa, or Sheba (Saba).
Bless'ed Love To All,
Look for yourself at the order I dont have to entertain this part because I didnt create the Melchizedek Order. I never said a man chased me anywhere the member non gendered, was a woman and she led me to the EWF not the order. As stated before look for yourself which you have not. you clearly took offense when you shouldnt have if you know your word and have truely studied....Se'lah
Okay, so a woman chased you down the street. It makes no difference. You yourself conflated the E.W.F. with the so-called Melchizedek order and have used the terms interchangeably in your posts, even claiming that one of the founders of the E.W.F. is a High Priest of the Order anointed by Haile Selassie who was also a High Priest, however erroneous that may be. So far, you have posted no proof that such an organization as the “Melchizedek Order” has existed for 10,000 years, and I notice you have no rebuttal for what I posted above concerning your ahistorical statements concerning Mesopotamia, et cetera.
You implied that Christ was merely a “son of God” in the sense that all of us are and that Melchizedek was more unique and superior in that he supposedly had a more miraculous birth and now you’re making a ridiculous leap in endeavoring to assign that statement to me.
Bless'ed Love To All,
No I did not. I stated that he is the only one of his(the Father) children that he has come for. begotten means to "come for" and not "to send". I never said any of that I spoke of Melchizedek and who he is and how he came to be present on Earth. Look for yourself Heb. 7 the whole chapter is about him in all books. Also I didnt write the bible so I didnt make Christ a Melchizedek the Father did. And you as I and everyone here can see the you have no clue what I speak of so why would I assign ascert anything to you....Se'lah
There you go with the off-base definitions again! And this one isn’t even a theological term like “Tewahedo” or “Orthodox”. “Begotten” doesn’t mean “to come for” or “to send”. Invest in a dictionary. Begotten means generated by procreation. In other words, the Father is the source of the Son.
And with this bit of babbling (“And you as I and everyone here can see the you have no clue what I speak of so why would I assign ascert anything to you”) you’ve reached a new level of nonsense and incomprehensibility . “Ascert”? Really?
And finally, you’re “taking your ball and going home” because you don’t like to be contradicted, but yet and still, I’ll bet your ego will compel you to reply to this posting nonetheless, even if it’s just to try to tell people to “back up off” you because you have nothing more to offer by way of facts.
Bless'ed Love To All,
actually I didnt take the ball and go home but instead I put it away because I see that your parents taught you no home training when it comes to playing with others. And ego I dont have information that you cant contradict I do have I never said I was gong anywhere I asked did I need to leave. the information that I stated is public info so prove yourself to be worthy by studying....The facts are there.....Se'lah
In other words, you’ve realized that you have no factual information with which to sustain your argument and so you must resort to pathetic ad hominem attacks and again more babbling “I dont have information that you cant contradict I do have I never said I was gong anywhere..”
Or perhaps your numerous spelling and grammatical errors, as well as making up words like “persopa”, “indetailed” and others speak to your level of education, and your pettiness speaks to your “character, age, and intellect. No one said you quoted His Majesty, but you misrepresented His Majesty by claiming he was a “high priest” who “anointed” others as high priests, which is patently false.
Bless'ed Love To All,
well see I would rather be correct with information than grammatics this is a forum not a script. Its funny how all you can do is speak about H.I.M. and about my order however you cannot refute Melchizedek. Is there a reason that you stray away from this subject. You wanna know how did I find such info in stead of seeing if the info is true which shows that you obviously dont believe what you claim you know about religion otherwise what I say wouldnt threaten you so. Se'lah
First of all, the two (grammar and information) are not mutually exclusive. Secondly, you are incorrect and both. Thirdly, I’ve refuted tons of what you’ve posted and you’ve declined to offer a cogent rebuttal on nearly everything, including your use of nonsense words like “persopa” and your bizarre statements about “gnomes” as part of the Christological dialogue. Fourthly, I’ve already articulated the Orthodox understanding of Melchizedek, which has nothing to do with your nonsensical fantasies about some order he never established and which does not include His Majesty, Mr. Solomon, or you. Fifthly, if you can’t understand the difference between Orthodox Christians defending the Orthodox understanding of things from your bizarre quasi-religious ramblings and someone being “threatened” by such, that’s your problem.
Now you’re making up terms and misrepresenting history, but perhaps this is due to a lack of proper education in the matter. “Persopa” was not part of the vocabulary employed by either Nestorius or the Fathers who refuted him. Perhaps you’re thinking of prosopon? Or are you going to claim someone is misrepresenting you again? Or that you merely have another interpretation than we have, complete with its own spelling? And how do you think you can discuss the Triune God without discussing the Second Person of the Trinity?
Now this shows that you are insecure in your Christianity your response here. These are terms inreference to the spirit not nestorius I never said that either. I simply gave you numerous names to one thing just in case your mind wanted to ask what I was referring to so I gave numerous names. Now show me a word that I said was false not grammatically spelled right but was a false word that you cant look up right now. example right now go anywhere and look up Melchizedek,Brotherhood of the White Light, or anything else I have spoken of and you tell me it says that this info does not exist....you look it up because you havent yet...... that way when you and Father Peter read it for yourselves it will no longer be the information you think I know but public information...Se'lah
At first I gave you the benefit of the doubt about being deliberately obtuse, but now I see that you’re thick. I never said you used such terms in reference to Nestorius, but that they were never part of the discussion he and his contemporaries had re: the Son. They are NOT terms in reference to the “spirit”. The Holy Spirit was not at issue in that particular debate..
You have indeed used made up words. “Persopa” is not a word. “Indetailed” is not a word.
And if you do a search for “Melchizedek Order” and “Brotherhood of the White Light” all that you come up with is Theosophy. Aleister Crowley, and the like, as below:
http://www.beyondreiki.com/about_us/brotherhood_of_light.htmlThe Brotherhood of Light
The Brotherhood of Light was the name given to me when I began to realize my channel connection. The Brothers' original name is the ancient Order of Melchizedek. They have also been called, at different times in our history, the White Brotherhood and the Great White Brotherhood.
In The Keys of Enoch, by J. J. Hurtak, the Brotherhood was defined as the earth's spiritual guardians, and the hierarchy guided thus: Lord Sananda (known in life as Jeshua Ben Joseph, and later as Jesus the Christ) heads the healing legions of Brothers, and Archangel Michael heads the warrior legions. Together, they are called the Paradise Sons. The warriors cut the ties, and the healers bind the wounds. So does Spirit support us in our healing, and on our individual path to ascending gracefully into the higher realms.
The Brothers are also the scribes for Spirit, keepers of the Akashic Records. They perform diverse functions in the Divine Plan and include many levels of spiritual awareness. The Ascended Masters form the higher energetic layers of the Brotherhood, and yet they speak as We. Indeed, if All Is One, then they are all interrelated vibrational essences; any need for individual identification is a result of our dualistic views and pre-conditioned thinking. To them, we are all One, including Us!
In the beginning, they called me little Master and little Brother. When I pointed out that I was female in this life (dualistic chuckle), they gave me the gift of my Spirit name, Sara, formed from the first two and last two letters of my Higher Self's name, Sanat Kumara. I work alone with the Brothers, and see myself as their scribe, their voice and their secretary. I hold no affiliation with any human group or organization currently teaching or representing the Melchizedek name or the White Brotherhood Priesthood.
If you would like to read further about the Brotherhood of Light, I offer here a small list of books that I found to contain a balanced and unbiased history and theory of their teachings. Many blessings to all seekers, we are all One on the path back Home.
-- I Am, in All Love, Edna G. Frankel (Sara)
The Book of Knowledge: The Keys of Enoch by J.J. Hurtak, 1973, published by The Academy for Future science, PO Box FE, Los Gatos, CA 95031, ISBN# 09603450-4-3
Ancient Mystical White Brotherhood by Frater Achad (Rev. George Graham Price), 1971, Revised Fourth Edition 1991, by Great Seal Press Publisher, PO Box 10771, Phoenix, AZ 85064,
ISBN# 0-926872-02-8
Melchizedek Truth Principles by Frater Achad, 1988, 10th printing 1999, Great Seal Press Publisher, ISBN# 0-92672-01-X
If that’s the case, its no surprise your information contradicts the Orthodox Church, but that stuff is hardly ancient. From wikipedia:
“In 1952, Geraldine Innocente, Messenger for The Bridge to Freedom, delivered this Address purported to be from Sanat Kumara describing the founding of the "Great White Brotherhood":
" . . . I had nothing to work with but Light and Love, and many centuries passed before even two lifestreams applied for membership - One, later became Buddha (now, Lord of the World, the Planetary Logos Gautama Buddha) and the Other, became the Cosmic Christ (Lord Maitreya, now the Planetary Buddha). The Brotherhood has grown through these ages and centuries until almost all the offices are held now by those belonging to the evolution of Earth and those who have volunteered to remain among her evolution. . .. " [21]
On July 4, 1954 it is believed that Sanat Kumara stated through Geraldine Innocente:
. . . Thus We took Our abode upon the sweet Earth. Through the same power of centripetal and centrifugal force of which I spoke (cohesion and expansion of the magnetic power of Divine Love), We then began to magnetize the Flame in the hearts of some of the Guardian Spirits who were not sleeping so soundly and who were not too enthusiastically engaged in using primal life for the satisfaction of the personal self.
"In this way, the Great White Brotherhood began. The Three-fold Flame within the heart of Shamballa, within the Hearts of the Kumaras and Myself, formed the magnetic Heart of the Great White Brotherhood by Whom you have all been blessed and of which Brotherhood you all aspire to become conscious members. . . . " [22]
Bless'ed Love To All,
Refute the Melchizedek Order. Until then what you say shows that you are insecure. Look up the public information dont believe me. You and everyone else got real personal as if I came here and said you are all wrong I didnt. So dont feel so threaten by what I say if what you know is the truth and the absolute truth, right? ..Se'lah
It’s easily refuted, as it was apparently founded by new age gurus in the 20th century. So now we’ve come to the root of things. A lot of new age spiritualism. And if you still don’t understand why it’s only natural for Orthodox Christian to contradict non-Orthodox, in fact non-Christian material on an Orthodox message board, that’s your problem.
