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Re: singles?
« Reply #855 on: August 26, 2019, 09:42:58 AM »
Orthodox girls get married with the idea of divorce?

Women, Orthodox or not, get married with men, not ideas.

If you're going to take mobsters as your husband models, you need to take the analogy to the end.
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Re: singles?
« Reply #856 on: August 26, 2019, 09:47:11 AM »
living real Orthodoxy is another thing.
This.
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Re: singles?
« Reply #857 on: August 26, 2019, 09:54:04 AM »
Women, Orthodox or not, get married with men, not ideas.

Orthodox girls get married, intending to divorce later?
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Re: singles?
« Reply #858 on: August 26, 2019, 09:56:35 AM »
Women, Orthodox or not, get married with men, not ideas.

Orthodox girls get married, intending to divorce later?

Orthodox women get married knowing they don't have to stay if things turn ugly.
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Re: singles?
« Reply #859 on: August 26, 2019, 03:09:12 PM »
Women, Orthodox or not, get married with men, not ideas.

Orthodox girls get married, intending to divorce later?

Orthodox women get married knowing they don't have to stay if things turn ugly.
Don't have to stay or don't have to stay married?
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Re: singles?
« Reply #860 on: August 26, 2019, 05:14:47 PM »

Nobody gets married expecting to get divorced.

However, the Orthodox Church, which is filled with the compassion and love of Christ, understands that in some circumstances individuals who have grown apart or find themselves in a violent situation may need to be separated from the threat their spouse causes them - physically, mentally or spiritually.

If we all lived selflessly and humbly as Christ intended, then there would never be cause for divorce.  Sadly, we often fall drastically short of His expectation of us.... and therefore, for the sake of the salvation of one, or both individuals, and/or their children, it is best that they live out the remainder of their lives separate from each other.

This is not a preferred method, nor encouraged... and means of salvation of the marriage are always attempted prior to dissolution.

There is no reason that a beaten, humiliated, threatened spouse needs to remain in the unhappy and dangerous marriage.
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Re: singles?
« Reply #861 on: August 26, 2019, 06:07:10 PM »
Women, Orthodox or not, get married with men, not ideas.

Orthodox girls get married, intending to divorce later?

Orthodox women get married knowing they don't have to stay if things turn ugly.
Don't have to stay or don't have to stay married?
What's the effective difference?  Marriage is a relationship, not a status.
Is any of the above Orthodox?  I have no idea, so there’s that.

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Re: singles?
« Reply #862 on: August 26, 2019, 11:19:11 PM »
Women, Orthodox or not, get married with men, not ideas.

Orthodox girls get married, intending to divorce later?

Orthodox women get married knowing they don't have to stay if things turn ugly.
Don't have to stay or don't have to stay married?
What's the effective difference?  Marriage is a relationship, not a status.

The effective differences are legal, which highlights the absurdity of equating religious joining of a couple with civil joining of a couple and treating them as the same thing. (If this view were more widely taken there might be less dispute around the gay marriage issue and less pressure on clergy to perform some sort of ceremony for joining two singles of the same sex/gender.)

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Re: singles?
« Reply #863 on: August 27, 2019, 02:43:03 AM »
Women, Orthodox or not, get married with men, not ideas.

Orthodox girls get married, intending to divorce later?

Orthodox women get married knowing they don't have to stay if things turn ugly.
Don't have to stay or don't have to stay married?
What's the effective difference?  Marriage is a relationship, not a status.
Well, I would argue that marriage is both a relationship and a status.
One effect would be the possibility to marry again - or not.
Obviously, you can (temporarily?) be separated from your spouse physically and remain married.

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Re: singles?
« Reply #864 on: August 30, 2019, 07:21:35 AM »
Women, Orthodox or not, get married with men, not ideas.

Orthodox girls get married, intending to divorce later?

Orthodox women get married knowing they don't have to stay if things turn ugly.
Don't have to stay or don't have to stay married?
What's the effective difference?  Marriage is a relationship, not a status.
Well, I would argue that marriage is both a relationship and a status.
One effect would be the possibility to marry again - or not.
Obviously, you can (temporarily?) be separated from your spouse physically and remain married.
No, you can't.  Your documentation can remain intact, and that may mean there's still hope to salvage or rebuild the relationship, but that's all that means.  Consider it a spectrum instead of a binary switch.  :)  I don't want to detract from the singles; this is their thread.  Feel free to argue with me about it via PM or start a new thread.  For the purposes of the thread, suffice it to say that Dominika is perfectly justified in being picky, does not need chiding, and should not be encouraged to just marry anyone or to marry thinking she can convert her husband.
Is any of the above Orthodox?  I have no idea, so there’s that.

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Re: singles?
« Reply #865 on: August 30, 2019, 02:08:00 PM »
For the purposes of the thread, suffice it to say that Dominika is perfectly justified in being picky, does not need chiding, and should not be encouraged to just marry anyone or to marry thinking she can convert her husband.
Absolutely, could not agree more. A practicing Orthodox should not settle for someone outside the church. If they want, after all, they should probably not marry a faithful Catholic or stout evangelical. Better a lukewarm Christian, should be fewer conflicts. I can tell.
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Re: singles?
« Reply #866 on: August 30, 2019, 08:02:54 PM »
For the purposes of the thread, suffice it to say that Dominika is perfectly justified in being picky, does not need chiding, and should not be encouraged to just marry anyone or to marry thinking she can convert her husband.
Absolutely, could not agree more. A practicing Orthodox should not settle for someone outside the church. If they want, after all, they should probably not marry a faithful Catholic or stout evangelical. Better a lukewarm Christian, should be fewer conflicts. I can tell.

Lepanto,

If I recall correctly, aren't you in an Orthodox/Catholic marriage?  Has it been difficult?  Forgive me if the question is inappropriate and feel free to disregard. 

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Re: singles?
« Reply #867 on: August 31, 2019, 02:17:17 PM »
For the purposes of the thread, suffice it to say that Dominika is perfectly justified in being picky, does not need chiding, and should not be encouraged to just marry anyone or to marry thinking she can convert her husband.
Absolutely, could not agree more. A practicing Orthodox should not settle for someone outside the church. If they want, after all, they should probably not marry a faithful Catholic or stout evangelical. Better a lukewarm Christian, should be fewer conflicts. I can tell.

Lepanto,

If I recall correctly, aren't you in an Orthodox/Catholic marriage?  Has it been difficult?  Forgive me if the question is inappropriate and feel free to disregard.
Yeah, my wife is Orthodox. I've mentioned it on several occasions, it is why I registered here.
We have two children who were baptized in the Orthodox church. We have seen through some difficulties indeed, but this is not the time and place to talk about it.
« Last Edit: August 31, 2019, 02:19:31 PM by Lepanto »
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Re: singles?
« Reply #868 on: August 31, 2019, 02:25:38 PM »
For the purposes of the thread, suffice it to say that Dominika is perfectly justified in being picky, does not need chiding, and should not be encouraged to just marry anyone or to marry thinking she can convert her husband.
Absolutely, could not agree more. A practicing Orthodox should not settle for someone outside the church. If they want, after all, they should probably not marry a faithful Catholic or stout evangelical. Better a lukewarm Christian, should be fewer conflicts. I can tell.

Lepanto,

If I recall correctly, aren't you in an Orthodox/Catholic marriage?  Has it been difficult?  Forgive me if the question is inappropriate and feel free to disregard.
Yeah, my wife is Orthodox. I've mentioned it on several occasions, it is why I registered here.
We have two children who were baptized in the Orthodox church. We have seen through some difficulties indeed, but this is not the time and place to talk about it.

Understood.  May God bless your marriage and your family.

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Re: singles?
« Reply #869 on: September 03, 2019, 07:22:53 PM »
I'm single. *dabs*
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Re: singles?
« Reply #870 on: September 03, 2019, 07:29:12 PM »
I'm too )))
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Re: singles?
« Reply #871 on: September 14, 2019, 03:50:32 PM »


No one is safe; no, not one.
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Re: singles?
« Reply #872 on: September 14, 2019, 10:11:54 PM »
The Trinity Diagram

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Re: singles?
« Reply #873 on: Yesterday at 12:50:16 PM »
Single again as from two days ago.
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Re: singles?
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« Reply #875 on: Yesterday at 03:44:22 PM »
I met a guy.
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Re: singles?
« Reply #877 on: Yesterday at 04:05:42 PM »
Single again as from two days ago.
Lord, have mercy.


I met a guy.
Praying!
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« Reply #878 on: Yesterday at 04:06:39 PM »
Single again as from two days ago.
Lord, have mercy.
I'm fine.  :)
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« Reply #879 on: Yesterday at 04:19:26 PM »
Is any of the above Orthodox?  I have no idea, so there’s that.

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Re: singles?
« Reply #880 on: Yesterday at 04:37:04 PM »


Self-fulfilling prophecy, exhibit A.

Mom buys it for him, thinking it quite funny.  15 years from now:  "Why are you not married?  I'll die before I have grandchildren!"
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