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Re: singles?
« Reply #855 on: August 26, 2019, 09:42:58 AM »
Orthodox girls get married with the idea of divorce?

Women, Orthodox or not, get married with men, not ideas.

If you're going to take mobsters as your husband models, you need to take the analogy to the end.
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« Reply #856 on: August 26, 2019, 09:47:11 AM »
living real Orthodoxy is another thing.
This.
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« Reply #857 on: August 26, 2019, 09:54:04 AM »
Women, Orthodox or not, get married with men, not ideas.

Orthodox girls get married, intending to divorce later?
- Вы говорите, они вам угрожали?
- Да, сказали "сюда иди".
- Ну, "иди сюда" - это не угроза.
- "Иди сюда" - нет, а "сюда иди" - очень даже.

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Re: singles?
« Reply #858 on: August 26, 2019, 09:56:35 AM »
Women, Orthodox or not, get married with men, not ideas.

Orthodox girls get married, intending to divorce later?

Orthodox women get married knowing they don't have to stay if things turn ugly.
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Re: singles?
« Reply #859 on: August 26, 2019, 03:09:12 PM »
Women, Orthodox or not, get married with men, not ideas.

Orthodox girls get married, intending to divorce later?

Orthodox women get married knowing they don't have to stay if things turn ugly.
Don't have to stay or don't have to stay married?
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Re: singles?
« Reply #860 on: August 26, 2019, 05:14:47 PM »

Nobody gets married expecting to get divorced.

However, the Orthodox Church, which is filled with the compassion and love of Christ, understands that in some circumstances individuals who have grown apart or find themselves in a violent situation may need to be separated from the threat their spouse causes them - physically, mentally or spiritually.

If we all lived selflessly and humbly as Christ intended, then there would never be cause for divorce.  Sadly, we often fall drastically short of His expectation of us.... and therefore, for the sake of the salvation of one, or both individuals, and/or their children, it is best that they live out the remainder of their lives separate from each other.

This is not a preferred method, nor encouraged... and means of salvation of the marriage are always attempted prior to dissolution.

There is no reason that a beaten, humiliated, threatened spouse needs to remain in the unhappy and dangerous marriage.
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Re: singles?
« Reply #861 on: August 26, 2019, 06:07:10 PM »
Women, Orthodox or not, get married with men, not ideas.

Orthodox girls get married, intending to divorce later?

Orthodox women get married knowing they don't have to stay if things turn ugly.
Don't have to stay or don't have to stay married?
What's the effective difference?  Marriage is a relationship, not a status.
Is any of the above Orthodox?  I have no idea, so there’s that.

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Re: singles?
« Reply #862 on: August 26, 2019, 11:19:11 PM »
Women, Orthodox or not, get married with men, not ideas.

Orthodox girls get married, intending to divorce later?

Orthodox women get married knowing they don't have to stay if things turn ugly.
Don't have to stay or don't have to stay married?
What's the effective difference?  Marriage is a relationship, not a status.

The effective differences are legal, which highlights the absurdity of equating religious joining of a couple with civil joining of a couple and treating them as the same thing. (If this view were more widely taken there might be less dispute around the gay marriage issue and less pressure on clergy to perform some sort of ceremony for joining two singles of the same sex/gender.)

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Re: singles?
« Reply #863 on: August 27, 2019, 02:43:03 AM »
Women, Orthodox or not, get married with men, not ideas.

Orthodox girls get married, intending to divorce later?

Orthodox women get married knowing they don't have to stay if things turn ugly.
Don't have to stay or don't have to stay married?
What's the effective difference?  Marriage is a relationship, not a status.
Well, I would argue that marriage is both a relationship and a status.
One effect would be the possibility to marry again - or not.
Obviously, you can (temporarily?) be separated from your spouse physically and remain married.

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Re: singles?
« Reply #864 on: August 30, 2019, 07:21:35 AM »
Women, Orthodox or not, get married with men, not ideas.

Orthodox girls get married, intending to divorce later?

Orthodox women get married knowing they don't have to stay if things turn ugly.
Don't have to stay or don't have to stay married?
What's the effective difference?  Marriage is a relationship, not a status.
Well, I would argue that marriage is both a relationship and a status.
One effect would be the possibility to marry again - or not.
Obviously, you can (temporarily?) be separated from your spouse physically and remain married.
No, you can't.  Your documentation can remain intact, and that may mean there's still hope to salvage or rebuild the relationship, but that's all that means.  Consider it a spectrum instead of a binary switch.  :)  I don't want to detract from the singles; this is their thread.  Feel free to argue with me about it via PM or start a new thread.  For the purposes of the thread, suffice it to say that Dominika is perfectly justified in being picky, does not need chiding, and should not be encouraged to just marry anyone or to marry thinking she can convert her husband.
Is any of the above Orthodox?  I have no idea, so there’s that.

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Re: singles?
« Reply #865 on: August 30, 2019, 02:08:00 PM »
For the purposes of the thread, suffice it to say that Dominika is perfectly justified in being picky, does not need chiding, and should not be encouraged to just marry anyone or to marry thinking she can convert her husband.
Absolutely, could not agree more. A practicing Orthodox should not settle for someone outside the church. If they want, after all, they should probably not marry a faithful Catholic or stout evangelical. Better a lukewarm Christian, should be fewer conflicts. I can tell.
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Re: singles?
« Reply #866 on: August 30, 2019, 08:02:54 PM »
For the purposes of the thread, suffice it to say that Dominika is perfectly justified in being picky, does not need chiding, and should not be encouraged to just marry anyone or to marry thinking she can convert her husband.
Absolutely, could not agree more. A practicing Orthodox should not settle for someone outside the church. If they want, after all, they should probably not marry a faithful Catholic or stout evangelical. Better a lukewarm Christian, should be fewer conflicts. I can tell.

Lepanto,

If I recall correctly, aren't you in an Orthodox/Catholic marriage?  Has it been difficult?  Forgive me if the question is inappropriate and feel free to disregard. 
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Re: singles?
« Reply #867 on: August 31, 2019, 02:17:17 PM »
For the purposes of the thread, suffice it to say that Dominika is perfectly justified in being picky, does not need chiding, and should not be encouraged to just marry anyone or to marry thinking she can convert her husband.
Absolutely, could not agree more. A practicing Orthodox should not settle for someone outside the church. If they want, after all, they should probably not marry a faithful Catholic or stout evangelical. Better a lukewarm Christian, should be fewer conflicts. I can tell.

Lepanto,

If I recall correctly, aren't you in an Orthodox/Catholic marriage?  Has it been difficult?  Forgive me if the question is inappropriate and feel free to disregard.
Yeah, my wife is Orthodox. I've mentioned it on several occasions, it is why I registered here.
We have two children who were baptized in the Orthodox church. We have seen through some difficulties indeed, but this is not the time and place to talk about it.
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Re: singles?
« Reply #868 on: August 31, 2019, 02:25:38 PM »
For the purposes of the thread, suffice it to say that Dominika is perfectly justified in being picky, does not need chiding, and should not be encouraged to just marry anyone or to marry thinking she can convert her husband.
Absolutely, could not agree more. A practicing Orthodox should not settle for someone outside the church. If they want, after all, they should probably not marry a faithful Catholic or stout evangelical. Better a lukewarm Christian, should be fewer conflicts. I can tell.

Lepanto,

If I recall correctly, aren't you in an Orthodox/Catholic marriage?  Has it been difficult?  Forgive me if the question is inappropriate and feel free to disregard.
Yeah, my wife is Orthodox. I've mentioned it on several occasions, it is why I registered here.
We have two children who were baptized in the Orthodox church. We have seen through some difficulties indeed, but this is not the time and place to talk about it.

Understood.  May God bless your marriage and your family.
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Re: singles?
« Reply #869 on: September 03, 2019, 07:22:53 PM »
I'm single. *dabs*

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« Reply #870 on: September 03, 2019, 07:29:12 PM »
I'm too )))
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Re: singles?
« Reply #871 on: September 14, 2019, 03:50:32 PM »


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« Reply #872 on: September 14, 2019, 10:11:54 PM »
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« Reply #873 on: September 15, 2019, 12:50:16 PM »
Single again as from two days ago.
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Re: singles?
« Reply #874 on: September 15, 2019, 02:06:57 PM »
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« Reply #875 on: September 15, 2019, 03:44:22 PM »
I met a guy.
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« Reply #876 on: September 15, 2019, 03:52:04 PM »
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Re: singles?
« Reply #877 on: September 15, 2019, 04:05:42 PM »
Single again as from two days ago.
Lord, have mercy.


I met a guy.
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« Reply #878 on: September 15, 2019, 04:06:39 PM »
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« Reply #879 on: September 15, 2019, 04:19:26 PM »
Is any of the above Orthodox?  I have no idea, so there’s that.

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« Reply #880 on: September 15, 2019, 04:37:04 PM »


Self-fulfilling prophecy, exhibit A.

Mom buys it for him, thinking it quite funny.  15 years from now:  "Why are you not married?  I'll die before I have grandchildren!"
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« Reply #881 on: January 04, 2020, 08:57:41 AM »
Probably won't be single first time in my life, and if it's God's Will, not any more. A few months ago a Lebanese seminarian has fallen in love with me, actually every around us gives blessing for this: our spiritual fathers (yesterday finally I talked with mine face to face, as I came to Poland for the Nativity-Epiphany time), priest fom the seminary, our parents and friends.
That's only me blocking my heart to some extend, as it won't be something easy.
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« Reply #882 on: January 04, 2020, 09:51:46 AM »
Praise God.  Lord, have mercy.
Is any of the above Orthodox?  I have no idea, so there’s that.

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« Reply #883 on: January 04, 2020, 11:05:26 AM »
Probably won't be single first time in my life, and if it's God's Will, not any more. A few months ago a Lebanese seminarian has fallen in love with me, actually every around us gives blessing for this: our spiritual fathers (yesterday finally I talked with mine face to face, as I came to Poland for the Nativity-Epiphany time), priest fom the seminary, our parents and friends.
That's only me blocking my heart to some extend, as it won't be something easy.
Thanks to God and Lord have mercy!
If you'll take some advice, don't worry that your heart is blocked, just take your time. Let it be, he will understand if he's the right guy... Congratulations anyway, I hope to call you Matushka Dominika Khoury or something some day!  :laugh:

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« Reply #884 on: January 04, 2020, 04:52:07 PM »
Cool. A man from another - more traditional, as I understand it - culture. Will you endure, will you remake your husband for yourself, or will you divorce?

Wait, now I'll give you an article in the subject. There is also about the wives of priests, too. It's in Russian, but you're multilingual, right?
https://ortheos.livejournal.com/1521905.html
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- Вы говорите, они вам угрожали?
- Да, сказали "сюда иди".
- Ну, "иди сюда" - это не угроза.
- "Иди сюда" - нет, а "сюда иди" - очень даже.

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« Reply #885 on: January 04, 2020, 05:47:35 PM »
Glory to God!

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« Reply #886 on: January 04, 2020, 07:10:49 PM »
Cool. A man from another - more traditional, as I understand it - culture. Will you endure, will you remake your husband for yourself, or will you divorce?

They haven't even started properly dating yet, relax.

Though if he ever treats her as anything less than the queen she is, she should definitely leave him. Better before than after.
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« Reply #887 on: January 04, 2020, 07:15:38 PM »
I'm glad for you and him, Dominika.
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« Reply #888 on: January 05, 2020, 05:20:39 PM »
Cool. A man from another - more traditional, as I understand it - culture. Will you endure, will you remake your husband for yourself, or will you divorce?
No doubt, it's a challenge ;) But generally for cultural and linguistical differences. I wouldn't say that Polish culture is "less traditional".

Wait, now I'll give you an article in the subject. There is also about the wives of priests, too. It's in Russian, but you're multilingual, right?
https://ortheos.livejournal.com/1521905.html

Indeed, and thanks God, I know a few langauges, but Russian is not among them. I can read and understand just something of this. But it seems, even from title, a bit chauvinist ;>

They haven't even started properly dating yet, relax.
Well, we've started some sort of dating ;)

Though if he ever treats her as anything less than the queen she is, she should definitely leave him. Better before than after.

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« Reply #889 on: January 05, 2020, 09:43:11 PM »
But generally for cultural and linguistical differences. I wouldn't say that Polish culture is "less traditional".

Does not Poland gravitate towards the Western world?
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- "Иди сюда" - нет, а "сюда иди" - очень даже.

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Re: singles?
« Reply #890 on: January 05, 2020, 10:16:22 PM »
Praise God.  Lord have mercy on your handmaiden Dominika.

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Re: singles?
« Reply #891 on: January 06, 2020, 07:20:35 AM »
But generally for cultural and linguistical differences. I wouldn't say that Polish culture is "less traditional".

Does not Poland gravitate towards the Western world?

I'm in the Western world.
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Re: singles?
« Reply #892 on: January 06, 2020, 06:50:17 PM »
But generally for cultural and linguistical differences. I wouldn't say that Polish culture is "less traditional".

Does not Poland gravitate towards the Western world?
Some people from Poland yes.
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Re: singles?
« Reply #893 on: January 06, 2020, 07:29:28 PM »
Probably won't be single first time in my life, and if it's God's Will, not any more. A few months ago a Lebanese seminarian has fallen in love with me, actually every around us gives blessing for this: our spiritual fathers (yesterday finally I talked with mine face to face, as I came to Poland for the Nativity-Epiphany time), priest fom the seminary, our parents and friends.
That's only me blocking my heart to some extend, as it won't be something easy.
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Re: singles?
« Reply #894 on: January 06, 2020, 08:58:00 PM »
I'm in the Western world.

Hang in there, man!
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Re: singles?
« Reply #895 on: January 07, 2020, 12:03:06 AM »
I'm in the Western world.

You're a lucky man! As am I, since I'm also a westerner.
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Re: singles?
« Reply #896 on: January 11, 2020, 12:35:00 PM »
I'm in the Southern Cone.
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Re: singles?
« Reply #897 on: January 11, 2020, 02:14:31 PM »
I'm in the Southern Cone.
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Re: singles?
« Reply #898 on: January 18, 2020, 12:20:37 AM »
I'm in the Southern Cone.
You are Brazilian ice cream.
I'm back to Rio. I did have ice cream in the local cone, it was nice.
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« Reply #899 on: January 18, 2020, 02:39:08 AM »
The last item I purchased at the convenience store was labeled 'Poland Springs.' . .
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