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Re: singles?
« Reply #450 on: August 30, 2016, 06:52:47 AM »
I'm single and don't have kids
Me too, still, unfortunately (at least for the 1st one).
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Re: singles?
« Reply #451 on: August 30, 2016, 08:04:35 AM »
I'm single and don't have kids
Me too, still, unfortunately (at least for the 1st one).
You have kids?  ;)
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Re: singles?
« Reply #452 on: August 30, 2016, 09:19:58 AM »
I'm single and don't have kids
Me too, still, unfortunately (at least for the 1st one).
You have kids?  ;)
Ah, no! ;) I used Polish grammar scheme. I should have written just "+1" and it would be correct.
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Re: singles?
« Reply #453 on: August 30, 2016, 10:29:53 AM »
I am single too unfortunately, I am not found the proper girl.

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« Reply #454 on: November 05, 2016, 03:50:18 AM »
56 and single and loving it.  Was married for 16 years. Worst mistake of my life.

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Re: singles?
« Reply #455 on: November 05, 2016, 06:38:02 AM »
56 and single and loving it.  Was married for 16 years. Worst mistake of my life.

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Re: singles?
« Reply #456 on: November 05, 2016, 07:53:18 AM »
I'm looking for a single Orthodox maiden to move with me to the jungle and lead a chaste life with 6-10 children for the glory of True Brazilian Orthodoxy. We can pretend it's the Scetes, Siberia or sth... PM me for details.
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Re: singles?
« Reply #457 on: November 05, 2016, 08:48:16 PM »
I'm looking for a single Orthodox maiden to move with me to the jungle and lead a chaste life with 6-10 children for the glory of True Brazilian Orthodoxy. We can pretend it's the Scetes, Siberia or sth... PM me for details.
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Re: singles?
« Reply #458 on: November 06, 2016, 01:00:51 AM »
I'm looking for a single Orthodox maiden to move with me to the jungle and lead a chaste life with 6-10 children for the glory of True Brazilian Orthodoxy. We can pretend it's the Scetes, Siberia or sth... PM me for details.

I thought I had a nominee...
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Re: singles?
« Reply #459 on: November 06, 2016, 03:10:06 AM »
I'm not single but not married either. I guess I'll be restored to my wife in heaven. Marriage was hell but also full of poignancy. I wouldn't do it again but I am glad I risked it.
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Re: singles?
« Reply #460 on: November 06, 2016, 03:12:07 AM »
As for a forum of a members of a religion that supposedly cares much about families this board has a huge representation of men hating their former wives. So much for "protecting natural marriage".
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Re: singles?
« Reply #461 on: November 06, 2016, 06:19:05 AM »
As for a forum of a members of a religion that supposedly cares much about families this board has a huge representation of men hating their former wives. So much for "protecting natural marriage".

You should man up and become Orthodox!
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Re: singles?
« Reply #462 on: November 06, 2016, 10:35:10 AM »
I'm not single but not married either. I guess I'll be restored to my wife in heaven. Marriage was hell but also full of poignancy. I wouldn't do it again but I am glad I risked it.

56 and single and loving it.  Was married for 16 years. Worst mistake of my life.

It sounds like I should never get married, like ever :o

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« Reply #463 on: November 06, 2016, 10:38:49 AM »
As for a forum of a members of a religion that supposedly cares much about families this board has a huge representation of men hating their former wives. So much for "protecting natural marriage".

Half the responses from you tend to bash that "religion that supposedly cares about families so much" what's up with that?

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Re: singles?
« Reply #464 on: November 06, 2016, 10:40:59 AM »
I'm not single but not married either. I guess I'll be restored to my wife in heaven. Marriage was hell but also full of poignancy. I wouldn't do it again but I am glad I risked it.

56 and single and loving it.  Was married for 16 years. Worst mistake of my life.

It sounds like I should never get married, like ever :o

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« Reply #465 on: November 06, 2016, 10:50:21 AM »
As for a forum of a members of a religion that supposedly cares much about families this board has a huge representation of men hating their former wives. So much for "protecting natural marriage".

Indeed.
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Re: singles?
« Reply #466 on: November 06, 2016, 11:05:19 AM »
As for a forum of a members of a religion that supposedly cares much about families this board has a huge representation of men hating their former wives. So much for "protecting natural marriage".

Half the responses from you tend to bash that "religion that supposedly cares about families so much" what's up with that?

Despite what you hear in sermons or books, when you look into what Christ was saying or lives of saints it seems family wasn't that important in early Christianity and other things were considered more important than that. Now it seems it is the main issue.
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« Reply #467 on: November 06, 2016, 11:12:05 AM »
As for a forum of a members of a religion that supposedly cares much about families this board has a huge representation of men hating their former wives. So much for "protecting natural marriage".

Half the responses from you tend to bash that "religion that supposedly cares about families so much" what's up with that?

Despite what you hear in sermons or books, when you look into what Christ was saying or lives of saints it seems family wasn't that important in early Christianity and other things were considered more important than that. Now it seems it is the main issue.

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Re: singles?
« Reply #468 on: November 06, 2016, 07:51:32 PM »
As for a forum of a members of a religion that supposedly cares much about families this board has a huge representation of men hating their former wives. So much for "protecting natural marriage".

Half the responses from you tend to bash that "religion that supposedly cares about families so much" what's up with that?

Despite what you hear in sermons or books, when you look into what Christ was saying or lives of saints it seems family wasn't that important in early Christianity...

Oh?

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« Reply #469 on: November 06, 2016, 08:05:09 PM »

...and other things were considered more important than that.

Such as?

Celibacy.

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Re: singles?
« Reply #470 on: November 06, 2016, 08:26:37 PM »
As for a forum of a members of a religion that supposedly cares much about families this board has a huge representation of men hating their former wives. So much for "protecting natural marriage".

I love my wife. She's an admirable girl. And it's still very personal -- I dream about her most nights.

It's possible I love her even more than you love trolling Orthodoxy.

The present distress, as St. Paul styled it, is simply inimical to marriage. This is not the fault of individual women and men. Savior, save us -- our children are in danger of growing up in a society where most people cannot even successfully live with themselves.
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Re: singles?
« Reply #471 on: November 06, 2016, 09:49:34 PM »
I'm not single but not married either. I guess I'll be restored to my wife in heaven. Marriage was hell but also full of poignancy. I wouldn't do it again but I am glad I risked it.

56 and single and loving it.  Was married for 16 years. Worst mistake of my life.

It sounds like I should never get married, like ever :o

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« Reply #472 on: November 06, 2016, 09:50:16 PM »
As for a forum of a members of a religion that supposedly cares much about families this board has a huge representation of men hating their former wives. So much for "protecting natural marriage".

Half the responses from you tend to bash that "religion that supposedly cares about families so much" what's up with that?

Despite what you hear in sermons or books, when you look into what Christ was saying or lives of saints it seems family wasn't that important in early Christianity and other things were considered more important than that. Now it seems it is the main issue.

If only there was still POTM
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Re: singles?
« Reply #473 on: November 06, 2016, 11:38:54 PM »
Despite what you hear in sermons or books, when you look into what Christ was saying or lives of saints it seems family wasn't that important in early Christianity and other things were considered more important than that. Now it seems it is the main issue.
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Re: singles?
« Reply #474 on: November 07, 2016, 12:54:24 AM »
As for a forum of a members of a religion that supposedly cares much about families this board has a huge representation of men hating their former wives. So much for "protecting natural marriage".
Two. There were two. Unless most of us are sock puppets, I wouldn't classify that as a huge representation.
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Re: singles?
« Reply #475 on: November 07, 2016, 01:14:44 AM »
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Jesus.
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« Reply #476 on: November 07, 2016, 01:41:56 AM »
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...and other things were considered more important than that.

Such as?

Jesus.

What does it mean for Chistianity to be about Christ? This seems circular or evasive.
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« Reply #477 on: November 07, 2016, 02:58:52 AM »
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...and other things were considered more important than that.

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Jesus.

What does it mean for Chistianity to be about Christ? This seems circular or evasive.

And it seems rather opposed to the Gospel as declared by Paul to think that anything matters except for Christ.
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« Reply #478 on: November 07, 2016, 11:59:07 AM »
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...and other things were considered more important than that.

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Jesus.

What does it mean for Chistianity to be about Christ? This seems circular or evasive.



are you on drugs?   How is Christianity NOT about Christ.....
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« Reply #479 on: November 07, 2016, 01:38:09 PM »
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...and other things were considered more important than that.

Such as?

Jesus.

What does it mean for Chistianity to be about Christ? This seems circular or evasive.

And it seems rather opposed to the Gospel as declared by Paul to think that anything matters except for Christ.

As a tautology on a topic can fairly be mouthed by either side of a debate it does not further the debate but is rhetorical evasion. The question here is, What about children is not about Christ, and how?
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Yes we who are far from sainthood we can recognize a living saint and I'm talking from personal experience.Yes they are gentle soo gentle it can not be described it is like gentleness and humility in one and also they have this light this energy it's beyond words...and when you are near them you feel ecstatic and very happy

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« Reply #480 on: November 07, 2016, 01:40:47 PM »
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...and other things were considered more important than that.

Such as?

Jesus.

What does it mean for Chistianity to be about Christ? This seems circular or evasive.



are you on drugs?   How is Christianity NOT about Christ.....

Thank you for asking. I am on drugs and have a series if MRIs later this week.
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« Reply #481 on: November 07, 2016, 01:53:36 PM »
I'm not single but not married either. I guess I'll be restored to my wife in heaven. Marriage was hell but also full of poignancy. I wouldn't do it again but I am glad I risked it.

56 and single and loving it.  Was married for 16 years. Worst mistake of my life.

It sounds like I should never get married, like ever :o

If you and your intended are fully aware that marriage is an ascetic community to be built of extremely different souls, in this modern life, and if you are aware that you have been extensively deceived about the nature of love, and if you put your children at the center of the lives of _both_ of you, then you should survive with a steady diet of the Jesus Prayer. But let me add the revelation that, once married, the griefs of singlehood will magically appear not have been bad and instead your own neglect of yourself in singlehood will seem to have been its main evil. By which I mean that in singlehood we, nowadays, thanks to the popular deceit, neglect and abuse ourselves under the justification that a life is not deserving that does not comprise "romance." In other words, we imagine a disability, and by that we ourselves enforce a disability.

Be generous with yourself, treat yourself like family you care for, and above all above all above all give to yourself friends, entrance into other circles and families, and a busy social life.


Edited to add:  not a monklike asceticism -- not asceticism of body -- something quite different.
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"Love ... is an abyss of illumination, a mountain of fire ... . It is the condition of angels, the progress of eternity" (Climacus).

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Yes we who are far from sainthood we can recognize a living saint and I'm talking from personal experience.Yes they are gentle soo gentle it can not be described it is like gentleness and humility in one and also they have this light this energy it's beyond words...and when you are near them you feel ecstatic and very happy

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Re: singles?
« Reply #482 on: November 07, 2016, 02:43:20 PM »
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...and other things were considered more important than that.

Such as?

Jesus.

What does it mean for Chistianity to be about Christ? This seems circular or evasive.

And it seems rather opposed to the Gospel as declared by Paul to think that anything matters except for Christ.

As a tautology on a topic can fairly be mouthed by either side of a debate it does not further the debate but is rhetorical evasion. The question here is, What about children is not about Christ, and how?

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« Reply #483 on: February 16, 2017, 06:00:28 AM »
28, still single. :P

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« Reply #484 on: February 16, 2017, 06:20:11 AM »
I could use a girlfriend right now. Hopefully there's a chance this is sorted out soon.
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« Reply #485 on: February 17, 2017, 06:29:39 AM »
Looking at christianity from outside, it is a religion founded by a single man
apparently not interested in marriage and starting a family. So indeed, emphasizing
the importance of intact families so much does not appear to be what the founder intended,
but a later innovation. Lk 14,26 is the obvious reference.
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Offline nikolaj

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Re: singles?
« Reply #486 on: February 17, 2017, 04:36:49 PM »
Looking at christianity from outside, it is a religion founded by a single man
apparently not interested in marriage and starting a family. So indeed, emphasizing
the importance of intact families so much does not appear to be what the founder intended,
but a later innovation. Lk 14,26 is the obvious reference.

At that time, the two options were celibate life, or marriage.

What are the options in this day and age????

Hence, the struggle to 'emphasize' the importance of family.

Enough said.

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Re: singles?
« Reply #487 on: February 18, 2017, 01:15:23 AM »
Looking at christianity from outside, it is a religion founded by a single man
apparently not interested in marriage and starting a family. So indeed, emphasizing
the importance of intact families so much does not appear to be what the founder intended,
but a later innovation. Lk 14,26 is the obvious reference.

At that time, the two options were celibate life, or marriage.

What are the options in this day and age????

Hence, the struggle to 'emphasize' the importance of family.

Enough said.

Given the existence of brothels in the Roman world, I don't think that's entirely true. And Jesus does save a 'woman taken in adultery' from being stoned to death.

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Re: singles?
« Reply #488 on: February 18, 2017, 05:40:35 AM »
Is that the whole picture? What was the 'oldest trade'?
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Re: singles?
« Reply #489 on: February 18, 2017, 08:07:59 AM »
Looking at christianity from outside, it is a religion founded by a single man
apparently not interested in marriage and starting a family. So indeed, emphasizing
the importance of intact families so much does not appear to be what the founder intended,
but a later innovation. Lk 14,26 is the obvious reference.
Reading papolics brilliant insights usually gives me a hard facepalm.

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Re: singles?
« Reply #490 on: February 18, 2017, 08:18:14 AM »
Looking at christianity from outside, it is a religion founded by a single man
apparently not interested in marriage and starting a family. So indeed, emphasizing
the importance of intact families so much does not appear to be what the founder intended,
but a later innovation. Lk 14,26 is the obvious reference.
Reading papolics brilliant insights usually gives me a hard facepalm.
Can't say I like the label "papolic". Please avoid it.
Also, I wrote "looking from the outside". This means I assume an imaginary other person's perspective for the moment which does not necessarily coincide with my own.
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Re: singles?
« Reply #491 on: February 20, 2017, 09:44:23 PM »
I'm not single but not married either. I guess I'll be restored to my wife in heaven. Marriage was hell but also full of poignancy. I wouldn't do it again but I am glad I risked it.

56 and single and loving it.  Was married for 16 years. Worst mistake of my life.

It sounds like I should never get married, like ever :o

If you and your intended are fully aware that marriage is an ascetic community to be built of extremely different souls, in this modern life, and if you are aware that you have been extensively deceived about the nature of love, and if you put your children at the center of the lives of _both_ of you, then you should survive with a steady diet of the Jesus Prayer. But let me add the revelation that, once married, the griefs of singlehood will magically appear not have been bad and instead your own neglect of yourself in singlehood will seem to have been its main evil. By which I mean that in singlehood we, nowadays, thanks to the popular deceit, neglect and abuse ourselves under the justification that a life is not deserving that does not comprise "romance." In other words, we imagine a disability, and by that we ourselves enforce a disability.

Be generous with yourself, treat yourself like family you care for, and above all above all above all give to yourself friends, entrance into other circles and families, and a busy social life.


Edited to add:  not a monklike asceticism -- not asceticism of body -- something quite different.
Well, if you put it that way...I got kicked out of mine due to attempting to lord it over everyone, but am still expected to supply for the financial needs of the novices of said ascetic community :(  :P
Of course RC theology (especially that new Theology of the Body stuff) doesn't really explain marriage in those terms, but it would have been helpful to know that the "head" doesn't get to "rule" the rest of the family. At least I can honestly say that if I were still married I would not have been chrismated Orthodox.
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The dread Pantocrator...is also "Christouli mou", (my little Christ), who really listens when you run in to your neighborhood church on the way to work to cry and light a candle because your daughter is in trouble at school. The untouchable and all-holy Mother of God is also "Panayitsa mou", who really will take your part before the court of heaven because, just like your own mom, she’ll always stick up for her children, no matter how badly they’ve behaved.