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« Reply #360 on: March 25, 2015, 05:30:22 PM »
Demographically among most religions in the US, yes, from something I read. Usually the women also have a high BMI. They seek religious institutions to attempt to find a man who will deal with their baggage.

IOW, most 20 year old women don't need God's help to get a date. The other side of 30 with a similar BMI? It can't hurt.

This makes no sense in reality or fantasy. Even if we were all locked in cells here, since members of religions and American citizens are almost identical sets, it would be too easy to see your study is impossible nonsense.

Why can't you just get out to some churches and look around and get to know the many, many beautiful young people and people of all ages? That shouldn't frighten you as much as it apparently does.

What are you going about? I am not the house bound one here. I work. Go out. And have attended more than few dozen odox parishes at this point.

Let's do a role call here amoung the single women over 30. We'll extrapolate from there. But what's wrong with what I said? Do you have a problem with overweight women?

You need to know when to let it go, Norman. Then again, if you had that balance, you wouldn't be flaming a religious family subforum in the first place.

Nah, I am good with not allowing people to raise their pathologies to spiritual virtues.

If someone is single, is little to nothing to do with being odox. EOD.

I am not sure what balance is, but I do make it to work and other civic obligations most adults engage in, but I guess we shouldn't use that bar to remove people from discussion here as it would hurt the post count.

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Re: singles?
« Reply #361 on: March 25, 2015, 05:42:21 PM »
Is not OC.net a civic obligation?

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« Reply #362 on: March 25, 2015, 05:44:00 PM »
Is not OC.net a civic obligation?

I stand corrected. My apologies to all those realizing that odoxy is cause of their many pains.

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« Reply #363 on: March 25, 2015, 06:20:20 PM »
Lol so much problems for converts in USA/west to find Orthodox partner. In my country, everyone is Orthodox, but also no one really cares about God or His Church, so it is same. xD People here, few of them, become religious, when they turn 60 and they realize, there is nothing more they can look for in their earthly lives which they have spent in third world country eating corn, and going here and theret, all day long in favela where they live. Hilarious.
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« Reply #364 on: March 25, 2015, 06:31:46 PM »
Lol so much problems for converts in USA/west to find Orthodox partner. In my country, everyone is Orthodox, but also no one really cares about God or His Church, so it is same. xD People here, few of them, become religious, when they turn 60 and they realize, there is nothing more they can look for in their earthly lives which they have spent in third world country eating corn, and going here and theret, all day long in favela where they live. Hilarious.

And what do you think we do here, eat ambrosia?
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« Reply #365 on: March 25, 2015, 06:37:31 PM »
Lol so much problems for converts in USA/west to find Orthodox partner. In my country, everyone is Orthodox, but also no one really cares about God or His Church, so it is same. xD People here, few of them, become religious, when they turn 60 and they realize, there is nothing more they can look for in their earthly lives which they have spent in third world country eating corn, and going here and theret, all day long in favela where they live. Hilarious.

And what do you think we do here, eat ambrosia?

You drive expensive cars with a lot of prostitutes waving from windows, walk around swimming pools and beaches in underwear, you reply with "cool" to every question, you shoot ducks on the way home, and at the end of night, you have a lot of sex, but not the Eastern European sex we have here, the one behind the public WC or one in the steppe's burned grass, no, you guys have it in the swimming pools, while the hot wind waves palms that cover your clear view on bright stars. Ah... America.
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Re: singles?
« Reply #366 on: March 25, 2015, 06:39:08 PM »
Lol so much problems for converts in USA/west to find Orthodox partner. In my country, everyone is Orthodox, but also no one really cares about God or His Church, so it is same. xD People here, few of them, become religious, when they turn 60 and they realize, there is nothing more they can look for in their earthly lives which they have spent in third world country eating corn, and going here and theret, all day long in favela where they live. Hilarious.

And what do you think we do here, eat ambrosia?

You drive expensive cars with a lot of prostitutes waving from windows, walk around swimming pools and beaches in underwear, you reply with "cool" to every question, you shoot ducks on the way home, and at the end of night, you have a lot of sex, but not the Eastern European sex we have here, the one behind the public WC or one in the steppe's grass, no, you guys have it in the swimming pools, while the hot wind waves palms that cover your clear view on bright stars. Ah... America.

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Re: singles?
« Reply #367 on: March 25, 2015, 06:40:59 PM »
Lol so much problems for converts in USA/west to find Orthodox partner. In my country, everyone is Orthodox, but also no one really cares about God or His Church, so it is same. xD People here, few of them, become religious, when they turn 60 and they realize, there is nothing more they can look for in their earthly lives which they have spent in third world country eating corn, and going here and theret, all day long in favela where they live. Hilarious.

And what do you think we do here, eat ambrosia?

You drive expensive cars with a lot of prostitutes waving from windows, walk around swimming pools and beaches in underwear, you reply with "cool" to every question, you shoot ducks on the way home, and at the end of night, you have a lot of sex, but not the Eastern European sex we have here, the one behind the public WC or one in the steppe's burned grass, no, you guys have it in the swimming pools, while the hot wind waves palms that cover your clear view on bright stars. Ah... America.

I would be a lot happier with my life if I lived in the America you describe. 
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Re: singles?
« Reply #368 on: March 25, 2015, 06:42:42 PM »
Lol so much problems for converts in USA/west to find Orthodox partner. In my country, everyone is Orthodox, but also no one really cares about God or His Church, so it is same. xD People here, few of them, become religious, when they turn 60 and they realize, there is nothing more they can look for in their earthly lives which they have spent in third world country eating corn, and going here and theret, all day long in favela where they live. Hilarious.

And what do you think we do here, eat ambrosia?

You drive expensive cars with a lot of prostitutes waving from windows, walk around swimming pools and beaches in underwear, you reply with "cool" to every question, you shoot ducks on the way home, and at the end of night, you have a lot of sex, but not the Eastern European sex we have here, the one behind the public WC or one in the steppe's grass, no, you guys have it in the swimming pools, while the hot wind waves palms that cover your clear view on bright stars. Ah... America.

Good to see you have a sense of your silliness. Eastern Europe has endured much hardship, but this does not make her people less than those that imagine they have free reign to pursue the passions; perhaps quite the contrary. (And in fact it should be said clearly that the marketing is not true: the average Western is not wealthy but probably envious or otherwise suffering in soul or even in body.)
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Re: singles?
« Reply #369 on: March 25, 2015, 06:49:48 PM »
Lol so much problems for converts in USA/west to find Orthodox partner. In my country, everyone is Orthodox, but also no one really cares about God or His Church, so it is same. xD People here, few of them, become religious, when they turn 60 and they realize, there is nothing more they can look for in their earthly lives which they have spent in third world country eating corn, and going here and theret, all day long in favela where they live. Hilarious.

And what do you think we do here, eat ambrosia?

You drive expensive cars with a lot of prostitutes waving from windows, walk around swimming pools and beaches in underwear, you reply with "cool" to every question, you shoot ducks on the way home, and at the end of night, you have a lot of sex, but not the Eastern European sex we have here, the one behind the public WC or one in the steppe's grass, no, you guys have it in the swimming pools, while the hot wind waves palms that cover your clear view on bright stars. Ah... America.

Good to see you have a sense of your silliness. Eastern Europe has endured much hardship, but this does not make her people less than those that imagine they have free reign to pursue the passions; perhaps quite the contrary. (And in fact it should be said clearly that the marketing is not true: the average Western is not wealthy but probably envious or otherwise suffering in soul or even in body.)

Eastern European women are one of biggest prostitutes in the world. You can have them very easy. That happens to barbaric nations, when socialism falls, because of unemployment, corruption and no ideology left, women become prostitutes and gold diggers, and men become drunktards who suck parent's pensions. Hilarious People. You must come, i can prove it to you, then we go see some ancient monasteries and fortresses. xD And everyone hates priests here, lol, because they are only rich People together with oligarchs. And if someone goes mad, we just lock them in old commie scary crumbling buildings with sadists to take care of them. Hilarious society. xD
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Re: singles?
« Reply #370 on: March 25, 2015, 06:51:40 PM »
You keep using that word, 'hilarious'. I do not think it means what you think it means.
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« Reply #371 on: March 25, 2015, 06:54:37 PM »
Miserable, more like it; and you have a duty to work to lessen the suffering of your people.
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« Reply #372 on: March 25, 2015, 07:01:34 PM »
Miserable, more like it; and you have a duty to work to lessen the suffering of your people.

No, after i graduate, i move to Switzerland, i am allowed to have their citizenship. :D I will be skiing and have walks down Alps and lakes all day long. We all flee, those who cant flee are losers.
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« Reply #373 on: March 25, 2015, 07:03:12 PM »
Lol so much problems for converts in USA/west to find Orthodox partner. In my country, everyone is Orthodox, but also no one really cares about God or His Church, so it is same. xD People here, few of them, become religious, when they turn 60 and they realize, there is nothing more they can look for in their earthly lives which they have spent in third world country eating corn, and going here and theret, all day long in favela where they live. Hilarious.

And what do you think we do here, eat ambrosia?

You drive expensive cars with a lot of prostitutes waving from windows, walk around swimming pools and beaches in underwear, you reply with "cool" to every question, you shoot ducks on the way home, and at the end of night, you have a lot of sex, but not the Eastern European sex we have here, the one behind the public WC or one in the steppe's grass, no, you guys have it in the swimming pools, while the hot wind waves palms that cover your clear view on bright stars. Ah... America.

Good to see you have a sense of your silliness. Eastern Europe has endured much hardship, but this does not make her people less than those that imagine they have free reign to pursue the passions; perhaps quite the contrary. (And in fact it should be said clearly that the marketing is not true: the average Western is not wealthy but probably envious or otherwise suffering in soul or even in body.)

Eastern European women are one of biggest prostitutes in the world. You can have them very easy. That happens to barbaric nations, when socialism falls, because of unemployment, corruption and no ideology left, women become prostitutes and gold diggers, and men become drunktards who suck parent's pensions. Hilarious People. You must come, i can prove it to you, then we go see some ancient monasteries and fortresses. xD And everyone hates priests here, lol, because they are only rich People together with oligarchs. And if someone goes mad, we just lock them in old commie scary crumbling buildings with sadists to take care of them. Hilarious society. xD

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« Reply #374 on: March 25, 2015, 07:16:09 PM »
I sometimes wonder if convert/convert marriages or convert/cradle ones are more stable. I think the former might benefit from the fact that both partners have gone on the same life journey (especially if they were converting at around the same time, and were there to help each other through it). I could imagine two people being received into the Church and then getting married shortly thereafter. I think it'd be powerful.

On the other hand, marrying someone who had grown up Orthodox might have its own advantages, too, since they'd be able to provide more guidance, rather than the two of you flying blind together  :-\
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« Reply #375 on: March 25, 2015, 07:17:21 PM »
Miserable, more like it; and you have a duty to work to lessen the suffering of your people.

No, after i graduate, i move to Switzerland, i am allowed to have their citizenship. :D I will be skiing and have walks down Alps and lakes all day long. We all flee, those who cant flee are losers.

Why are you going to school in Serbia?
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« Reply #376 on: March 25, 2015, 07:20:59 PM »
I sometimes wonder if convert/convert marriages or convert/cradle ones are more stable. I think the former might benefit from the fact that both partners have gone on the same life journey (especially if they were converting at around the same time, and were there to help each other through it). I could imagine two people being received into the Church and then getting married shortly thereafter. I think it'd be powerful.

On the other hand, marrying someone who had grown up Orthodox might have its own advantages, too, since they'd be able to provide more guidance, rather than the two of you flying blind together  :-\

I think the divorce rate for anyone on a life journey has to be astronomically high.

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« Reply #377 on: March 25, 2015, 07:23:27 PM »
Miserable, more like it; and you have a duty to work to lessen the suffering of your people.

No, after i graduate, i move to Switzerland, i am allowed to have their citizenship. :D I will be skiing and have walks down Alps and lakes all day long. We all flee, those who cant flee are losers.

Why are you going to school in Serbia?

Because i live in Serbia, because education in Serbia is paid by the government if you are good enough, and even if you fail under the red line for government funding, you pay it only 1000 dollars per year, and because there is no Serbian Orthodox Seminary outside Serbia, there is one in Bosnia and one in Chicago, but i am too poor to fly there, and it is really small...
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« Reply #378 on: March 25, 2015, 07:27:04 PM »
I sometimes wonder if convert/convert marriages or convert/cradle ones are more stable. I think the former might benefit from the fact that both partners have gone on the same life journey (especially if they were converting at around the same time, and were there to help each other through it). I could imagine two people being received into the Church and then getting married shortly thereafter. I think it'd be powerful.

On the other hand, marrying someone who had grown up Orthodox might have its own advantages, too, since they'd be able to provide more guidance, rather than the two of you flying blind together  :-\

If you want stable marriage, you go to East mountains of Montenegro, meet with Albanian tribe leader, give them 5000 euros, they give you their young daughter, she cooks and cleans, and she loves you so much because she finally lives in a house with electricity. She will convert to any faith you want, and you don't have to see your father and mother in law ever again, best part of it. Just don't let her hang out too much with American women, they can spoil her, but also keep her unemployed, so she must listen to you, because she is broke. I have mastered blackmails to survive in marriage. Something my dad taught me. :D

Serbian men from villages really do this, because they cant find Serbian women, they are too busy trying to live in cities. xD
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« Reply #379 on: March 25, 2015, 07:38:54 PM »
Miserable, more like it; and you have a duty to work to lessen the suffering of your people.

No, after i graduate, i move to Switzerland, i am allowed to have their citizenship. :D I will be skiing and have walks down Alps and lakes all day long. We all flee, those who cant flee are losers.

Why are you going to school in Serbia?

Because i live in Serbia, because education in Serbia is paid by the government if you are good enough, and even if you fail under the red line for government funding, you pay it only 1000 dollars per year, and because there is no Serbian Orthodox Seminary outside Serbia, there is one in Bosnia and one in Chicago, but i am too poor to fly there, and it is really small...

As a Swiss citizen, you should have other options.
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« Reply #380 on: March 25, 2015, 07:44:43 PM »
Miserable, more like it; and you have a duty to work to lessen the suffering of your people.

No, after i graduate, i move to Switzerland, i am allowed to have their citizenship. :D I will be skiing and have walks down Alps and lakes all day long. We all flee, those who cant flee are losers.

Why are you going to school in Serbia?

Because i live in Serbia, because education in Serbia is paid by the government if you are good enough, and even if you fail under the red line for government funding, you pay it only 1000 dollars per year, and because there is no Serbian Orthodox Seminary outside Serbia, there is one in Bosnia and one in Chicago, but i am too poor to fly there, and it is really small...

As a Swiss citizen, you should have other options.

I was born in Switzerland, then moved to Yugoslavia (Serbia and Montenegro) to help president Milosevic fight imperialism, then some CIA revolution showed up and we sent him to Hag, we were like - WHAT A HELL JUST HAPPENED, now i am stuck in banana country LOL., But i plan to use those options and leave these eastern European scum behind me. xD
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« Reply #381 on: March 25, 2015, 07:52:33 PM »
Uh huh.
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« Reply #382 on: March 25, 2015, 09:19:59 PM »
I sometimes wonder if convert/convert marriages or convert/cradle ones are more stable. I think the former might benefit from the fact that both partners have gone on the same life journey (especially if they were converting at around the same time, and were there to help each other through it). I could imagine two people being received into the Church and then getting married shortly thereafter. I think it'd be powerful.

On the other hand, marrying someone who had grown up Orthodox might have its own advantages, too, since they'd be able to provide more guidance, rather than the two of you flying blind together  :-\

If you want stable marriage, you go to East mountains of Montenegro, meet with Albanian tribe leader, give them 5000 euros, they give you their young daughter, she cooks and cleans, and she loves you so much because she finally lives in a house with electricity. She will convert to any faith you want, and you don't have to see your father and mother in law ever again, best part of it. Just don't let her hang out too much with American women, they can spoil her, but also keep her unemployed, so she must listen to you, because she is broke. I have mastered blackmails to survive in marriage. Something my dad taught me. :D

Serbian men from villages really do this, because they cant find Serbian women, they are too busy trying to live in cities. xD

5000 Euros is a bit steep.  To which Montenegrin mountains could I go for 3000 USD or so?  I don't want to spend more on a wife than on a used car or a Mauser C96 in decent condition.
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« Reply #383 on: March 26, 2015, 04:42:15 AM »
I sometimes wonder if convert/convert marriages or convert/cradle ones are more stable. I think the former might benefit from the fact that both partners have gone on the same life journey (especially if they were converting at around the same time, and were there to help each other through it). I could imagine two people being received into the Church and then getting married shortly thereafter. I think it'd be powerful.

On the other hand, marrying someone who had grown up Orthodox might have its own advantages, too, since they'd be able to provide more guidance, rather than the two of you flying blind together  :-\



If you want stable marriage, you go to East mountains of Montenegro, meet with Albanian tribe leader, give them 5000 euros, they give you their young daughter, she cooks and cleans, and she loves you so much because she finally lives in a house with electricity. She will convert to any faith you want, and you don't have to see your father and mother in law ever again, best part of it. Just don't let her hang out too much with American women, they can spoil her, but also keep her unemployed, so she must listen to you, because she is broke. I have mastered blackmails to survive in marriage. Something my dad taught me. :D

Serbian men from villages really do this, because they cant find Serbian women, they are too busy trying to live in cities. xD

5000 Euros is a bit steep.  To which Montenegrin mountains could I go for 3000 USD or so?  I don't want to spend more on a wife than on a used car or a Mauser C96 in decent condition.

Well, if you are from USA, you must first take a long flight to Belgrade, and then take a very long and slow ride by a train or by bus through mountains and canyons and then reach town Rožaje, speak with locals, they will direct you where to go. You must not be cheap to get a good, obeying wife. Who knows, it might be even 3000 USD, probably a bit older one would cost that much. Then return to Belgrade or Podgorica with her, guarantee for her visa and return home. xD

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« Reply #384 on: March 26, 2015, 09:28:29 AM »
I sometimes wonder if convert/convert marriages or convert/cradle ones are more stable. I think the former might benefit from the fact that both partners have gone on the same life journey (especially if they were converting at around the same time, and were there to help each other through it). I could imagine two people being received into the Church and then getting married shortly thereafter. I think it'd be powerful.

On the other hand, marrying someone who had grown up Orthodox might have its own advantages, too, since they'd be able to provide more guidance, rather than the two of you flying blind together  :-\



If you want stable marriage, you go to East mountains of Montenegro, meet with Albanian tribe leader, give them 5000 euros, they give you their young daughter, she cooks and cleans, and she loves you so much because she finally lives in a house with electricity. She will convert to any faith you want, and you don't have to see your father and mother in law ever again, best part of it. Just don't let her hang out too much with American women, they can spoil her, but also keep her unemployed, so she must listen to you, because she is broke. I have mastered blackmails to survive in marriage. Something my dad taught me. :D

Serbian men from villages really do this, because they cant find Serbian women, they are too busy trying to live in cities. xD

5000 Euros is a bit steep.  To which Montenegrin mountains could I go for 3000 USD or so?  I don't want to spend more on a wife than on a used car or a Mauser C96 in decent condition.

Well, if you are from USA, you must first take a long flight to Belgrade, and then take a very long and slow ride by a train or by bus through mountains and canyons and then reach town Rožaje, speak with locals, they will direct you where to go. You must not be cheap to get a good, obeying wife. Who knows, it might be even 3000 USD, probably a bit older one would cost that much. Then return to Belgrade or Podgorica with her, guarantee for her visa and return home. xD



Thanks for the info!  I don't mind an older, mature woman.  Say, 22 or 23, if it gets me a decent discount.
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« Reply #385 on: April 08, 2015, 11:08:52 PM »
I sometimes wonder if convert/convert marriages or convert/cradle ones are more stable. I think the former might benefit from the fact that both partners have gone on the same life journey (especially if they were converting at around the same time, and were there to help each other through it). I could imagine two people being received into the Church and then getting married shortly thereafter. I think it'd be powerful.

On the other hand, marrying someone who had grown up Orthodox might have its own advantages, too, since they'd be able to provide more guidance, rather than the two of you flying blind together  :-\

...I doubt there's actually a difference in stability, and it all completely depends on the people involved, but I'd like to hear from anyone who has seen these types of marriages and how they go anyways.

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« Reply #386 on: April 08, 2015, 11:50:55 PM »
My marriage was convert/convert (I converted about a year before we got married, and she converted about a year and a half before); after about 6 1/2 years the marriage ended; neither of us were practicing Orthodox Christians when it ended. However, I think being converts had little to do with any instabilities. The instability and problems were caused by our--though mostly my--character flaws, and it was these personality things and bad habits and other problems that had a negative effect on the religious element, not the other way around.

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« Reply #387 on: April 16, 2015, 09:19:26 PM »
People here, few of them, become religious, when they turn 60 and they realize, there is nothing more they can look for in their earthly lives which they have spent in third world country eating corn, and going here and theret, all day long in favela where they live. Hilarious.

Considering the large amount of young people entering the monasteries, I would say that is not entirely true.

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« Reply #388 on: April 16, 2015, 11:22:45 PM »
In fact in the last 20 years there has been probably three fold the number of new monks and nuns, just in Serbia.

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« Reply #389 on: April 16, 2015, 11:24:23 PM »
I sometimes wonder if convert/convert marriages or convert/cradle ones are more stable. I think the former might benefit from the fact that both partners have gone on the same life journey (especially if they were converting at around the same time, and were there to help each other through it). I could imagine two people being received into the Church and then getting married shortly thereafter. I think it'd be powerful.

On the other hand, marrying someone who had grown up Orthodox might have its own advantages, too, since they'd be able to provide more guidance, rather than the two of you flying blind together  :-\



If you want stable marriage, you go to East mountains of Montenegro, meet with Albanian tribe leader, give them 5000 euros, they give you their young daughter, she cooks and cleans, and she loves you so much because she finally lives in a house with electricity. She will convert to any faith you want, and you don't have to see your father and mother in law ever again, best part of it. Just don't let her hang out too much with American women, they can spoil her, but also keep her unemployed, so she must listen to you, because she is broke. I have mastered blackmails to survive in marriage. Something my dad taught me. :D

Serbian men from villages really do this, because they cant find Serbian women, they are too busy trying to live in cities. xD

5000 Euros is a bit steep.  To which Montenegrin mountains could I go for 3000 USD or so?  I don't want to spend more on a wife than on a used car or a Mauser C96 in decent condition.

Well, if you are from USA, you must first take a long flight to Belgrade, and then take a very long and slow ride by a train or by bus through mountains and canyons and then reach town Rožaje, speak with locals, they will direct you where to go. You must not be cheap to get a good, obeying wife. Who knows, it might be even 3000 USD, probably a bit older one would cost that much. Then return to Belgrade or Podgorica with her, guarantee for her visa and return home. xD



Paying a large sum of money to a man to get a woman, sounds like prostitution; this is far from Orthodoxy and should be frowned upon.

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« Reply #390 on: April 20, 2015, 05:31:32 PM »
I sometimes wonder if convert/convert marriages or convert/cradle ones are more stable. I think the former might benefit from the fact that both partners have gone on the same life journey (especially if they were converting at around the same time, and were there to help each other through it). I could imagine two people being received into the Church and then getting married shortly thereafter. I think it'd be powerful.

On the other hand, marrying someone who had grown up Orthodox might have its own advantages, too, since they'd be able to provide more guidance, rather than the two of you flying blind together  :-\



If you want stable marriage, you go to East mountains of Montenegro, meet with Albanian tribe leader, give them 5000 euros, they give you their young daughter, she cooks and cleans, and she loves you so much because she finally lives in a house with electricity. She will convert to any faith you want, and you don't have to see your father and mother in law ever again, best part of it. Just don't let her hang out too much with American women, they can spoil her, but also keep her unemployed, so she must listen to you, because she is broke. I have mastered blackmails to survive in marriage. Something my dad taught me. :D

Serbian men from villages really do this, because they cant find Serbian women, they are too busy trying to live in cities. xD

5000 Euros is a bit steep.  To which Montenegrin mountains could I go for 3000 USD or so?  I don't want to spend more on a wife than on a used car or a Mauser C96 in decent condition.

Well, if you are from USA, you must first take a long flight to Belgrade, and then take a very long and slow ride by a train or by bus through mountains and canyons and then reach town Rožaje, speak with locals, they will direct you where to go. You must not be cheap to get a good, obeying wife. Who knows, it might be even 3000 USD, probably a bit older one would cost that much. Then return to Belgrade or Podgorica with her, guarantee for her visa and return home. xD



Paying a large sum of money to a man to get a woman, sounds like prostitution; this is far from Orthodoxy and should be frowned upon.

I must protest. All Serbian men who married Albanian women are very happy with them (Mostly happens in South Serbia and Montenegro areas). Serbian women are not wife material.

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« Reply #391 on: April 20, 2015, 05:41:42 PM »
I sometimes wonder if convert/convert marriages or convert/cradle ones are more stable. I think the former might benefit from the fact that both partners have gone on the same life journey (especially if they were converting at around the same time, and were there to help each other through it). I could imagine two people being received into the Church and then getting married shortly thereafter. I think it'd be powerful.

On the other hand, marrying someone who had grown up Orthodox might have its own advantages, too, since they'd be able to provide more guidance, rather than the two of you flying blind together  :-\



If you want stable marriage, you go to East mountains of Montenegro, meet with Albanian tribe leader, give them 5000 euros, they give you their young daughter, she cooks and cleans, and she loves you so much because she finally lives in a house with electricity. She will convert to any faith you want, and you don't have to see your father and mother in law ever again, best part of it. Just don't let her hang out too much with American women, they can spoil her, but also keep her unemployed, so she must listen to you, because she is broke. I have mastered blackmails to survive in marriage. Something my dad taught me. :D

Serbian men from villages really do this, because they cant find Serbian women, they are too busy trying to live in cities. xD

5000 Euros is a bit steep.  To which Montenegrin mountains could I go for 3000 USD or so?  I don't want to spend more on a wife than on a used car or a Mauser C96 in decent condition.

Well, if you are from USA, you must first take a long flight to Belgrade, and then take a very long and slow ride by a train or by bus through mountains and canyons and then reach town Rožaje, speak with locals, they will direct you where to go. You must not be cheap to get a good, obeying wife. Who knows, it might be even 3000 USD, probably a bit older one would cost that much. Then return to Belgrade or Podgorica with her, guarantee for her visa and return home. xD



Paying a large sum of money to a man to get a woman, sounds like prostitution; this is far from Orthodoxy and should be frowned upon.

I must protest. All Serbian men who married Albanian women are very happy with them (Mostly happens in South Serbia and Montenegro areas). Serbian women are not wife material.
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« Reply #392 on: April 20, 2015, 05:43:00 PM »
What he means is that Serbian women are so pious, they've all become nuns. Only Albanian women are available.

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« Reply #393 on: April 20, 2015, 05:43:34 PM »
Believe me, Dominika, a man who says such things is not husband material.
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« Reply #394 on: April 20, 2015, 05:49:49 PM »
What he means is that Serbian women are so pious, they've all become nuns. Only Albanian women are available.
Good point :D


Believe me, Dominika, a man who says such things is not husband material.
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« Reply #395 on: April 20, 2015, 05:53:13 PM »
Believe me, Dominika, a man who says such things is not husband material.

Nor is a man who Jimmy Stewart's all over a man who says such things.
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« Reply #396 on: April 20, 2015, 06:01:45 PM »
What he means is that Serbian women are so pious, they've all become nuns. Only Albanian women are available.

Sarcasm... Not true of course, there are still monasteries in Serbia who are completely empty, and there are many monasteries who have only 1-3 monks or nuns. If we compare it to pre-communist era, some monasteries had hundreds of monks or nuns. The revival of the faith is much stronger in Russia than in Serbia, (Bosnia, Montenegro)

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« Reply #397 on: April 20, 2015, 06:02:44 PM »
Isn't this where someone says *whoosh*?
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« Reply #398 on: April 20, 2015, 06:03:16 PM »
Believe me, Dominika, a man who says such things is not husband material.

I've never been a husband, so i don't know, but i know what are People talking here. And i've seen things.

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« Reply #399 on: April 20, 2015, 06:05:40 PM »
Believe me, Dominika, a man who says such things is not husband material.

I've never been a husband, so i don't know, but i know what are People talking here. And i've seen things.

If only husbands could be counted on to know what is husband material.
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« Reply #400 on: April 20, 2015, 06:08:20 PM »
Believe me, Dominika, a man who says such things is not husband material.

I've never been a husband, so i don't know, but i know what are People talking here. And i've seen things.

If only husbands could be counted on to know what is husband material.

Well, they are not much better either, but i am interested in women, not men.

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« Reply #401 on: April 20, 2015, 06:11:35 PM »
Believe me, Dominika, a man who says such things is not husband material.

I've never been a husband, so i don't know, but i know what are People talking here. And i've seen things.

If only husbands could be counted on to know what is husband material.

Well, they are not much better either, but i am interested in women, not men.

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« Reply #402 on: April 20, 2015, 06:19:38 PM »
Believe me, Dominika, a man who says such things is not husband material.

Nor is a man who Jimmy Stewart's all over a man who says such things.

I looked that use of "Jimmy Stewart" up in Urban Dictionary to no avail.

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« Reply #403 on: April 20, 2015, 06:23:55 PM »
Believe me, Dominika, a man who says such things is not husband material.

Nor is a man who Jimmy Stewart's all over a man who says such things.

I looked that use of "Jimmy Stewart" up in Urban Dictionary to no avail.

Nicholas is just expressing his discomfort at encountering a post from another male that is not lecherous or churlish.
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« Reply #404 on: April 20, 2015, 06:51:11 PM »
Believe me, Dominika, a man who says such things is not husband material.

Nor is a man who Jimmy Stewart's all over a man who says such things.

I looked that use of "Jimmy Stewart" up in Urban Dictionary to no avail.

Nicholas is just expressing his discomfort at encountering a post from another male that is not lecherous or churlish.

Yeah I can see how that might irritate. Pompous and sanctimonious is obviously the way to go.  ::)