Basically none of this changes that: Henry's problem was that the Catholic Church wasnt giving him a divorce, and if they had he probably wouldve stayed Catholic.
All you did was show that according to church rules maybe it could have been easier for him to get a divorce, but "Pope Said No," which is what alot more things come down to in Catholicism after they accepted infallibility.
If "Pope Said No" and orthodox couldve said yes, then the divorce problem still wasnt as big. But you alread had this cool movement catching on in nearby Germany and Russia was a long ways away, plus who knows if Tsar "IVAN" is going to give you a divorce.
So the divorce was the main thing, and he couldve done orthodoxy likely if he wanted to because he probably rejected papal infallibility if +Thomas Moore did.
[/quote]It is likely that if Clement VII had granted the annulment then England would not have broken with Rome. I don't think that there is any great controversy with that idea.
OK, that's what I am saying too.
<< However, the idea that England would have put themselves under Constantinople is, I think, not particularly supportable.
OK, that's what I am saying too. It is not supportable from a POLITICAL perspective. That is why it did not happen and we both agree on this. It is questionable how much religious doctrines played into this, since Orthodoxy, like the Protestantism Luther chose, rejects papal infallibility and papal supremacy, the immaculate conception of Mary, doesn't put the same emphasis on Mary, priestly celibacy, etc. It's my personal belief that the biggest and most decisive difference between the churches is the issue of Papal Supremacy, which was a practical reason for
Protestants under Rome to reject Apostolic Succession, thereby dividing Christendom into three.
<<Considering the situation of needing male heirs and not wanting foreign rulers having power, what would "Tsar IVAN" have to do with anything. I'm sorry, I'm not following your reasoning.
The reasoning is what you just said. An English King would not want the granting of his divorce to be laying for months in the hands of some Church Council under black-bearded Tsar Ivan over in "Cossack land". Henry wanted a divorce and he wanted it "Now"!
Nor did he want Patriarchs and foreign rulers to run England's policies, since at that time the church did play a big role in politics.
<<Also, the liturgy and customs in the English Church were rooted in western Christianity. Eastern liturgy and practice would be alien, imo.
Of course, this is a matter of liturgical practice, not a doctrine of the faith, since we now have "Western Orthodox" parishes. So there were probably cultural differences between Holy Mother Russia and the decadent west that may have distorted the Englishers' perceptions, much as it may today when Westerners enter into Orthodox churches and it feels so different they do not realize it is the ONE HOLY CATHOLIC AND APOSTOLIC CHURCH.
Your original question was why Henry didn't become Orthodox, and basically it comes down to politics and the culture shock, not real doctrinal differences. As you said he wouldve stayed Catholic if it was not for the marriage thing. So that means he would have been ok with the Catholic doctrines other than the Papal infallibility and supremacy, which are the two main differences Catholicism has with Orthodoxy. It's good enough to explain this by saying that Henry wanted to be the head of England's church but that Rome wouldn't let him. But this is not a difference with orthodoxy, where sometimes a secular authority did head the church, like crazy-scary-Tsar Ivan Grozny, who may have had thermometer juice in his teeth fillings. Add on to that the fact that Thomas More may well have rejected papal infallibility, and as far as doctrines go, the Anglicans could have chosen Orthodoxy.
The reason he didn't was politics. After all, what lay between Russia and England? Germany. And German culture was after all much closer to English culture, the languages are in the same langauge group, and they had a jolly time of the Reformation there. So that is the answer to the question.
<<I apologize that I seem to have upset you. But real history and information are important.
Of course it is upsetting that someone who is as intelligent as you are is not getting it.
I am joking. Be happy.