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« on: June 25, 2010, 09:36:12 AM »

They are all missing their feast days, I'd appreciate help on that. Smiley

These saints are already venerated and loved by the Brazilian people and, I think, would be a good point of contact with local cultures in future missions. They were taken from "O Livro de Ouro dos Santos", a book that contains the most widespread venerations in the country. One thing that I'm uncertain about, though, are the venerations of Mary. How can an Orthodox draw the line between Orthodox veneration and the heretical ones?

Santo Amaro
(St Maurus)
(+ 15 January 548)
A spiritual child of St Benedict.

Santa Ana
(St Ann)
The Mother of the Ever-Virgin Mary.

Santo André
(St.Andrew the Apostle)

Santa Apolônia of Alexandria
(St Apollonia)
(+ 249)

São Baltazar
(St Balthazar)
One of the three wise men. In Brazil, some black congregations say that he was a King of the Congo.

Santa Bárbara
(St Barbara of Nicomedia)
(+ 235)

Santo Bartolomeu
(St Bartholomew)
Mentioned in the New Testament, the Lord said he was ‘a true and honest Israelite’.

São Bento
(St. Benedict)
(+ 543)
Father of Western monasticism.

São Bras
(St Blaise)
(+ 316)

Santa Catarina de Alexandria
(St Catherine of Alexandria)

Santa Cecília
(St. Cecily)
(+ c. 223)

São Clemente
(St Clement I, Pope)

São Cosme e São Damião
(St Cosmas and St Damian)
(+ 295)

São Cristóvão
(St Christopher)
(+ c. 250)

São Dimas
(St Dimas)
The Good Thief

Santa Escolástica
(St Scholastica, twin sister of St. Benedict)
(+ 543)

Santo Estevão
(St Stephen)

Santa Helena
(St Helen, mother of St Constantine)

Santa Ifigênia
(St Iphigenia of Ethiopia)
Baptized by St Matthew

Santa Inês
(St Agnes)
(c. 304)

São Jerônimo
(St Jerome)

São João Batista
(St John the Baptist)

São João Evangelista
(St John the Evangelist)

São Joaquim
(St Joachim)
Father of the Mother of God.

São Jorge
(St George)

São José
(St Joseph)
Protector of the Son of God.

São Judas Tadeu
(St Jude Thaddeus, the Apostle)

São Lázaro
(St Lazarus)

São Longuinho
(St Longinus)
The Roman soldier who pierced Christ’s side while he was on the Cross and was later converted).

São Lourenço
(St Lawrence)
One of the first seven deacons

São Lucas
(St Luke)

Santa Luzia
(St Lucy of Syracuse)

São Marcos
(St Mark)

Santa Maria do Egito
(St Mary of Egypt)

Santa Maria Madalena
(St Mary Magdalene)

São Mateus
(St Matthew)

São Miguel
(St Michael the Archangel)

Santo Onofre
(St Onuphrius)

São Paulo
(St Paul)

São Pedro
(St Peter)

Santa Quitéria
( St Quiteria, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quiteria )

São Sebastião
(St Sebastian)

São Silvestre
(St Sylvester, Pope Sylvester I)

São Tomé
(St Thomas the Apostle)
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« Reply #1 on: June 25, 2010, 09:46:02 AM »

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How can an Orthodox draw the line between Orthodox veneration and the heretical ones?

Could you provide examples of Marian devotions from this book?

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São Dimas
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The Good Thief

AFAIK, Dismas is not venerated as a saint in the Orthodox Church. He is often seen in icons of the Three Patriarchs (Abraham, Isaac and Jacob), he is shown bearing his cross, but does not have a halo.
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« Reply #2 on: June 25, 2010, 10:39:47 AM »

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How can an Orthodox draw the line between Orthodox veneration and the heretical ones?

Could you provide examples of Marian devotions from this book?

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São Dimas
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The Good Thief

AFAIK, Dismas is not venerated as a saint in the Orthodox Church. He is often seen in icons of the Three Patriarchs (Abraham, Isaac and Jacob), he is shown bearing his cross, but does not have a halo.
He does in every icon I've seen.  Otherwise, the hymn "In one moment You did graciously grant Paradise to the Wise Thief, O Lord!" would have no meaning.


Through the prayers of St. Dimas, Lord Jesus Christ, have mercy on us!

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“Remember those in prison as if you were their fellow prisoners and those who are mistreated
as if you yourselves were suffering”
Hebrews 13:3

St. Dismas, whose icon is displayed one of the angel doors of Saint Nicholas Russian Orthodox Church in Fletcher, North Carolina met Christ on at least two occasions. The first encounter was during the flight into Egypt – Dismas and his band of highwaymen attacked the Holy Family with every intention of robbing them. The Virgin Mary held the swaddled Christ Child tight to her chest.  Perceiving that she was protecting their most precious possession, Dismas demanded to see what was in the bundle. When he saw the face of the Christ Child he was so moved that he told his men to let this party pass unharmed and their cargo, which contained the gold, frankincense, and myrrh they had received from the three kings, untouched. Mary thanked him and told him that her Son would someday repay his good deed.

That day came when Dismas hung on the cross at the right hand side of Our Lord.  A lifelong villain, Dismas defended Christ from the taunts of the other thief who hung to Christ’s left.  Dismas repented and asked Christ to remember him in His Kingdom.

The third bar on the three-bar cross is tilted upward in the right and downward on the left, representing the salvation of the repentant thief and the damnation of the unrepentant one. During every Liturgy, immediately before receiving the Holy Eucharist, the faithful repeat those words saying, “I will not give Thee a kiss as did Judas, but like the Thief do I confess Thee: Remember me,  O Lord , in Thy kingdom.”

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Since approximately 1998, the community of Saint Nicholas Russian Orthodox Church in Fletcher, North Carolina has quietly shared the love of God and the Orthodox faith with those in prison. Volunteers have corresponded with and visited with several inmates across the country. The community has also sent books, magazines, and monetary support (for toiletries, postage, etc.) to their incarcerated brothers and sisters. We also publish a bimonthly newsletter that strives bring hope to and uplift the imprisoned through stories of forgiveness and redemption from the lives of the saints and Holy Tradition.

Over the years, a handful of those touched by the ministry have been able to visit our parish, either on a pass from a local institution or upon release; two became catechumens.

In the United States, one in approximately every 33 people are either in prison or on some sort of probationary program, far more than in any other country in the world. If you know someone who would benefit from our outreach program please let us know and we will add them to our correspondence list. Your donations of time and money to this program are always welcome and put to good use. God will reward your generosity! To make a donation, simply click on the Paypal button. Please leave a note, “Prison Ministry”.
http://saintnicholasroc.org/parish-projects/prison-ministry/

Btw, having spent time in jail, I can witness that such ministries are not in vain. I remember one prisoner who begged me to let him have my Orthodox Study Bible when I was released, since he was "going down state" (in IL that means serious time).  There was no need, as I planned to leave it anyway (along with my copy of War and Peace, which some had expressed an interest in).
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« Reply #3 on: June 25, 2010, 12:53:20 PM »

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How can an Orthodox draw the line between Orthodox veneration and the heretical ones?

Could you provide examples of Marian devotions from this book?

Ok, as soon as I get back home. Smiley

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« Reply #4 on: June 26, 2010, 11:29:58 AM »

Ok, here are the most popular Marian devotions in Brazil

The largest one is devoted to the Patroness of Brazil, Our Lady Aparecida:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Our_Lady_of_Aparecida

Our Lady Aparecida (Our Lady who Appeared) is a variant of Our Lady of (the Immaculate) Conception below.

Our Lady of Brazil
http://is.gd/d53sw

Our Lady of Mount Carmel
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Our_Lady_of_Mount_Carmel

Our Lady of Conception
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immaculate_Conception

Our Lady of Copacabana
http://saints.sqpn.com/our-lady-of-copacabana/

Our Lady Untier of Knots
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mary_Untier_of_Knots

Our Lady of Hope
http://ourladystears.blogspot.com/2007/11/our-lady-of-hope-part-i.html
(Curiously, when searching for info on this devotion, I found out that an old parish dedicated to Our Lady of Hope is under the Moscow Patriarchate now, in Portugal)

Our Lady of Fátima
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Our_Lady_of_F%C3%A1tima

Our Lady of Glory, celebrating Our Lady's crowning as Queen of Heaven
http://web.me.com/juliocesarchaves/HolyMother/History.html

Our Lady of Graces, which is related to the apparition of Mary to deliver a certain miraculous medal...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miraculous_Medal

Our Lady of Guadalupe
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Our_Lady_of_Guadalupe

Our Lady of Lapa
http://is.gd/d55Cz

Our Lady of Lourdes
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Our_Lady_of_Lourdes

Our Lady of Shoenstatt, Thrice Admirable, Mother, Winner and Queen
http://is.gd/d56g8

Our Lady of Navigators
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Our_Lady_of_Navigators

Our Lady of Ó
http://is.gd/d56tR

Our Lady of the Penha (old Portuguese word for "rock")
http://is.gd/d56zz

Our Lady of Sorrows
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Our_Lady_of_Sorrows

Here in the city of Curitiba, where I live, the devotion to Our Lady of Perpetual Help is very popular:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Our_Lady_of_Perpetual_Help

Our Lady of the Rosary
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Our_Lady_of_the_Rosary

Our Lady of Victory, a title the pope of the time gave to Our Lady for the victory over the Turks in the Battle of Lepanto (Nafpaktos)
http://is.gd/d5769
http://is.gd/d5769
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« Reply #5 on: June 26, 2010, 12:27:28 PM »

I went searching and found that there is one church dedicated to the Good Thief (called Rakh in Russian... Varvar > Varakh > Rakh)  I don't know if this is a something considered normal or if the blessing for the church was given by an eccentric bishop.   Grin

http://www.pravoslavie.ru/news/8642.htm
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« Reply #6 on: June 26, 2010, 10:07:58 PM »

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One thing that I'm uncertain about, though, are the venerations of Mary. How can an Orthodox draw the line between Orthodox veneration and the heretical ones?
Ok, here are the most popular Marian devotions in Brazil
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None of these devotions are part of Orthodox tradition. There is no feast day appointed for their commemoration in any Orthodox calendar, nor is there any Orthodox hymnography written for them.
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« Reply #7 on: June 26, 2010, 11:29:27 PM »

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How can an Orthodox draw the line between Orthodox veneration and the heretical ones?

Could you provide examples of Marian devotions from this book?

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São Dimas
(St Dimas)
The Good Thief

AFAIK, Dismas is not venerated as a saint in the Orthodox Church. He is often seen in icons of the Three Patriarchs (Abraham, Isaac and Jacob), he is shown bearing his cross, but does not have a halo.
In some icons he does have a halo. Back home, in our church, he did have a halo.
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« Reply #8 on: June 27, 2010, 03:34:20 PM »

I went searching and found that there is one church dedicated to the Good Thief (called Rakh in Russian... Varvar > Varakh > Rakh)  I don't know if this is a something considered normal or if the blessing for the church was given by an eccentric bishop.   Grin

http://www.pravoslavie.ru/news/8642.htm

I was just at the ROCOR Cathedral for Chicago. The icons were written by HG Archbishop Alepy. In the back on the North side is an icon of the Bosom of Abraham, with the three patriarchs and the Wise Thief, all having halos.
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« Reply #9 on: June 27, 2010, 07:31:11 PM »

If he is indeed a saint, can anyone provide a feast day or commemoration day for the Good Thief? Great Friday seems the most likely, yet in none of the Orthodox calendars I have at hand is this person commemorated on that day.
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« Reply #10 on: June 28, 2010, 06:28:08 AM »

Orthodoxwiki says he is commemorated on 25th of March.
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« Reply #11 on: June 28, 2010, 06:45:16 AM »

Orthodoxwiki says he is commemorated on 25th of March.

According to the Great Synaxarion, various other calendars of Slavic tradition, and St Herman's Calendar, there is no mention of a St Dismas for March 25. I'd love to know where the author of the orthodoxwiki got this information....
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« Reply #12 on: June 28, 2010, 08:14:58 AM »

It would make sense that he was commemorated on March 25, since an ancient tradition puts the date of the Crucifixion on the same date as Annunciation.  I, however, can't find an English-language Orthodox jurisdiction that says that this is his date.  Anybody got anything?

Ialmisry, thanks for the info.  One of the things I truly wish we did more of was prison ministry.  It's good to see this being done.
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« Reply #13 on: June 28, 2010, 08:20:30 AM »

It would make sense that he was commemorated on March 25, since an ancient tradition puts the date of the Crucifixion on the same date as Annunciation.  I, however, can't find an English-language Orthodox jurisdiction that says that this is his date.  Anybody got anything?


The Saint Hilarion Calendar has him on 25th March.  It has two columns - for Eastern Saints and (pre-schism) Western Saints and he is listed in the latter.
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« Reply #14 on: June 29, 2010, 02:01:12 PM »

Fr., Bless,

Thanks for the link!  My question, then, is: Is there an Eastern rite tradition of commemorating him on the 25 March?
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