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« on: June 13, 2010, 04:20:34 AM »

I'm trying to determine the demographic here at O.C.net...

Who are  you people?

I myself am from a Roman Catholic background - which I was born and baptized into.

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« Reply #1 on: June 13, 2010, 05:48:16 AM »

I was baptized RC, raised Episcopalian, now Jewish.
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« Reply #2 on: June 13, 2010, 06:36:55 AM »

I was baptized RC, raised Episcopalian, now Jewish.

I would love to hear about your spiritual journey. Please pm me.

I was baptized Lutheran. However, I don't believe I ever gave up Protestantism, because it means a protest against the Catholic church, and there are many shades of Protestantism. But this depends on how you define Protestantism. I accept the Church's writings as a very important authority, and I am not aware that any brand of Protestantism that accepts any of the church's writings as a very important authority outside the Bible.
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« Reply #3 on: June 13, 2010, 06:43:07 AM »

I was baptized RC, raised Episcopalian, now Jewish.

I would love to hear about your spiritual journey. Please pm me.
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« Reply #4 on: June 13, 2010, 06:49:08 AM »

I was born, baptised and confirmed a Roman Catholic.  I then spent some time exploring various Christian Churches (mainly Orthodoxy and Anglicanism), other faiths, etc, all the while flirting with Agnosticism.  Spent 2-3 years as an Orthodox Catechumen (after exploring it for some time), then arrived in the warm bosom of Atheism/Humanism.
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« Reply #5 on: June 13, 2010, 08:01:03 AM »

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"I was baptized RC, raised Episcopalian, now Jewish."

WHAT?!?

But, but... I thought 'Jewish' was a race?

You've converted to reject the Saviour of the World? You've chosen to become anti-Christ?!?

Have you started to study the Talmud yet? May God help you Tallitot!



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"I was born, baptised and confirmed a Roman Catholic.  I then spent some time exploring various Christian Churches (mainly Orthodoxy and Anglicanism), other faiths, etc, all the while flirting with Agnosticism.  Spent 2-3 years as an Orthodox Catechumen (after exploring it for some time), then arrived in the warm bosom of Atheism/Humanism."

WHAT?!?

No offense - but...

"The fool has said in his heart, 'There is no God.'"
- Psalms 14:1, 53:1

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« Reply #6 on: June 13, 2010, 09:42:09 AM »

Former Lutheran, LCMS and later WELS.
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« Reply #7 on: June 13, 2010, 09:58:02 AM »

First exposed to Christianity in an Episcopal church; baptized Presbyterian in 1958, then by turns Lutheran, Americal Baptist, and Episcopalian; converted to Orthodoxy in 1992.
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« Reply #8 on: June 13, 2010, 10:38:29 AM »

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"I was baptized RC, raised Episcopalian, now Jewish."

WHAT?!?

But, but... I thought 'Jewish' was a race?

You've converted to reject the Saviour of the World? You've chosen to become anti-Christ?!?

Have you started to study the Talmud yet? May God help you Tallitot!



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"I was born, baptised and confirmed a Roman Catholic.  I then spent some time exploring various Christian Churches (mainly Orthodoxy and Anglicanism), other faiths, etc, all the while flirting with Agnosticism.  Spent 2-3 years as an Orthodox Catechumen (after exploring it for some time), then arrived in the warm bosom of Atheism/Humanism."

WHAT?!?

No offense - but...

"The fool has said in his heart, 'There is no God.'"
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« Reply #9 on: June 13, 2010, 10:44:36 AM »

But, but... I thought 'Jewish' was a race?

Some persons want to define Jewish as a "race" or ethnicity, others as a religion/faith and some might use either definition depending on their statements at a particular time. 

As to "race" there is one: the Human race.
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« Reply #10 on: June 13, 2010, 10:56:23 AM »

I was born in Kyiv (Kiev), one of the world's capitals of Holy Orthodoxy. Was exposed to Orthodoxy since I remember myself: saw beautiful churches with onion domes all around, heard bells ringing on Sunday mornings, etc. My grandfather had a huge collection of records of the Orthodox liturgical music, particularly Shalyapin's performances of the Ektenia of Great Supplication and other. Used to sneak into the St. Volodymyr cathedral during evening services, and could stand for an hour, listening to the choir and smelling incense and looking at the amazing icons and murals.

Yet, my family was very "Soviet," and I was not baptized at all in childhood. I was baptized here, in the USA, when I was already 46 years old, in 2004. The congregation that baptized me was PC(USA). I did not last there, though, and was finally received into the Orthodox Church by the Holy Mystery of Chrismation in February 2007. So, formally, speaking, yes, I am, too, a "former Protestant," but only very formally speaking.
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« Reply #11 on: June 13, 2010, 11:10:27 AM »

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"Learn to tolerate other people's beliefs. I find your behaviour extremely offensive."

But I said, "No offense"! 

Frankly - I could care less. Learn to tolerate my beliefs. I find your extreme offense to be even more offensive.



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"As to "race" there is one: the Human race."

Amen to that Ebor... Amen to that!



Dear Heorhij,

Thank-you for your story! Amazing!

I'm glad to hear that you have found your way "back East" - so to speak! There is no doubt that God has brought you... it sounds as if you were always His!

God bless you... and God bless Holy Ukraine!
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« Reply #12 on: June 13, 2010, 03:14:15 PM »

But, but... I thought 'Jewish' was a race?

Some persons want to define Jewish as a "race" or ethnicity, others as a religion/faith and some might use either definition depending on their statements at a particular time.  

UH OH! NOT THIS DISCUSSION AGAIN!  Shocked Roll Eyes

This needs to be discussed on the "Jew" Definitions thread.
http://www.orthodoxchristianity.net/forum/index.php/topic,28125.msg445071/topicseen.html#msg445071
Otherwise, it we will spend alot on the kind of topic that trolls feed off of.



I will not feed the trolls..... I will not feed the trolls........ Oh, but this is a racist Troll..... Does that count?
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« Reply #13 on: June 13, 2010, 04:38:35 PM »

I could care less.

Then why don't you?
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« Reply #14 on: June 13, 2010, 04:47:49 PM »

WHAT?!?

No offense - but...

"The fool has said in his heart, 'There is no God.'"
- Psalms 14:1, 53:1


No offence taken.  Though quoting the Bible to someone who views it as a mere compilation of man-made moral and religious tennants (no different than those of Marcus Aurelius or Immanuel Kant) seems fruitless.  laugh
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« Reply #15 on: June 13, 2010, 04:58:05 PM »

I was raised fairly secular, aside from sporadic references to God (my father was RC but never had me baptized or took me to church). I leaned toward atheism from the age of 5, when I asked my mom, "Why did God make thorn bushes?" and she didn't give me a satisfying answer. Flirted with paganism, Taoism, Sufism in high school, then militant atheism (anarchist-communist) for a few years. Eventually got burned out on political ideology and became a Buddhist in college. Learned about Orthodoxy from some rather random sources, dabbled in and out of it for a few years before I finally committed and got baptized April 2009.
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"As to "race" there is one: the Human race."

Amen to that Ebor... Amen to that!


Indeed. And Human race includes all persons from everywhere on the Earth and from all ethnic groups.  Human Beings who are created in the image of God so I don't see how any claims of genetics or ancestry has anything to do with a religious affiliation such as has been brought up in other threads.   Undecided

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« Reply #17 on: June 13, 2010, 07:06:59 PM »

I was baptized RC, raised Episcopalian, now Jewish.

I would love to hear about your spiritual journey. Please pm me.
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I was baptized RC, raised Episcopalian, now Jewish.

I would love to hear about your spiritual journey. Please pm me.
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If u don't mind put me on the PM list

Me too, Tallitot, me too! Smiley
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« Reply #20 on: June 13, 2010, 08:24:17 PM »

Raised Catholic and Baptist, mom Catholic, dad Baptist- grandma would take me the Baptist church sometimes, at home attended Catholic services. Left the church when I was 18, but still believed, probably more agnostic in my feelings regarding the churches. When I married, ex-hubby was Lutheran, started going with him. Later went to non-denom.  Started really questioning things, reading lots of stuff, researching, started attending the Catholic church again, but didn't go to confession or communion  was questioning stuff, discovered Orthodoxy, and here I am. Smiley
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« Reply #21 on: June 13, 2010, 10:07:17 PM »

Born, baptized and raised Lutheran in the LCMS mainly though I was baptized in the LCA (a forerunner to the modern ELCA).  I experimented with Catholicism during my college years thinking that was what I would eventually become but was frustrated because the Mass was celebrated no differently than the LCMS church I was raised in, save for a hymn or two to Mary.  Found Orthodoxy once I got to Nebraska, of all places!
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« Reply #22 on: June 14, 2010, 06:18:54 PM »

Hmmmmm.

Exploring Oriental Orthodoxy right now. Was previously Eastern Orthodox. Before that I was a denominationally undecided Protestant who was exploring various different traditions. Before that I was into Buddhism (though whether I was properly a Buddhist at that point I don't know). Before that I was undecided about any particular religion or the existence of God. And before that I was a strong atheist, believing that God did not exist. And I was raised in a home of no particular religious bias.
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« Reply #23 on: June 14, 2010, 06:27:17 PM »

Raised Catholic and Baptist, mom Catholic, dad Baptist- grandma would take me the Baptist church sometimes, at home attended Catholic services.

This is me exactly! Raised Roman Catholic and Southern Baptist.
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« Reply #24 on: June 14, 2010, 09:52:02 PM »

"I could care less."

"Then why don't you?"

I can't help it if people are offended for silly reasons.

I understand where you're coming from... and maybe I'm a little too defensive - but I mean come on! Get a helmet Feanor! If you're going to be "offended" at least have a good reason.



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"Though quoting the Bible to someone who views it as a mere compilation of man-made moral and religious tennants (no different than those of Marcus Aurelius or Immanuel Kant) seems fruitless."

The Bible does not just contain "man-made moral and religious tenets "...

The Bible is the historical record of the prophecies and subsequent fulfilments of those prophecies regarding God becoming a man to save His creation from the curse of death.

The compound fruition of all of the O.T. prophetic predictions regarding the birth and death of the Messiah was against all reasonable odds... indeed was virtually impossible and yet - they all came to be!

How can you deny this fact? You have decided that the truth is a lie! You're dancing with the unforgivable sin friend...



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"I don't see how any claims of genetics or ancestry has anything to do with a religious affiliation such as has been brought up in other threads."

Which was exactly my point! They are the ones who classify themselves as a race - not I!



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  • Why are so many people here so accepting; indeed so very enamored  with someone who has rejected Jesus Christ? Would you all be equally impressed with a new convert to the 'church of Satan' (which was - incidentally also founded by a so-called 'Jew')?

  • Why is it that out of the 272 people who have viewed this poll... only 37 people have replied?!? It's completely anonymous just to answer the poll! How many of those two hundred and thirty-some odd people who didn't  reply are also Protestants?

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« Reply #25 on: June 14, 2010, 10:00:33 PM »

Raised Catholic and Baptist, mom Catholic, dad Baptist- grandma would take me the Baptist church sometimes, at home attended Catholic services.

This is me exactly! Raised Roman Catholic and Southern Baptist.

You know, you are the one who told me about The Dessert Wisdom Book Store (which I love BTW, thank you  Smiley  ) at St. Mary's of Egypt.  I saw the article about your priest and their ministry in the Pitch!  When I first saw that on the cover, I thought, oh no, here's the pitch doing a religion slam thing again, but it was a favorable article, much to my surprise!  Nice to have someone on here from the Kansas City metro area!
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There have been 270-some views of this thread, not unique visitors. You yourself, by checking and replying several times, have produced at least 3 or 4 of those views.

Also, your poll is totally inapplicable to many people here, who have known no religious affiliation other than Orthodoxy.
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Since when is it a sin to show a sincere interest in another person's life, particularly in the case of Tallitot, who has been a long-standing member of this forum?  I also think it rather inappropriate to compare mainstream Judaism with the "church of satan", to say the least. 
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« Reply #28 on: June 14, 2010, 11:22:10 PM »

I think people are being shockingly polite with you, Saint Iaint, for how you have been acting on these forums.
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« Reply #29 on: June 14, 2010, 11:28:24 PM »

technically I was born Orthodox and voted that. BUT, my mother was catholic (although she was Buddhist in demeanor,but her mom was very catholic however) and my father was only Orthodox because it was needed to identify as a Serb, yet I don't think hes ever believed in God. Good old communism.

I was Agnostic up until maybe the age of 15 when I seriously began to believe in God and began to do serious research on all Abrahamic religions... and by "process of elimination" I ended up with Orthodoxy (Eastern and Oriental)  Grin
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« Reply #30 on: June 15, 2010, 12:32:43 AM »

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Ah... yes, I see. Thanks. Good call.

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Hmmm. I'm pretty sure I've allowed for all possibilities. No?



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"I also think it rather inappropriate to compare mainstream Judaism with the "church of satan", to say the least."

Well... they're both anti-Christ and they were both founded by 'Jews'.

"I know your works, tribulation, and poverty (but you are rich); and I know the blasphemy of those who say they are Jews and are not, but are a synagogue of Satan."
- Revelation 2:9

"Indeed I will make those of the synagogue of Satan, who say they are Jews and are not, but lie--indeed I will make them come and worship before your feet, and to know that I have loved you."
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I'm pretty sure you have to pick one Sloga! ... No?
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« Reply #31 on: June 15, 2010, 01:12:20 AM »

The Bible is the historical record of the prophecies and subsequent fulfilments of those prophecies regarding God becoming a man to save His creation from the curse of death.

The compound fruition of all of the O.T. prophetic predictions regarding the birth and death of the Messiah was against all reasonable odds... indeed was virtually impossible and yet - they all came to be!

How can you deny this fact? You have decided that the truth is a lie! You're dancing with the unforgivable sin friend...
I read your posts within "Why Christianity?" and was thoroughly unimpressed by your various comments on prophecy, statistical odds, etc.  As were many of your fellow Christians...
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« Reply #32 on: June 15, 2010, 01:26:09 AM »

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Since when is it a sin to show a sincere interest in another person's life, particularly in the case of Tallitot, who has been a long-standing member of this forum?

Yes, the person converted without giving an explanation, so it is interesting why he did this and could be a matter of concern etc.

I did think the "Me toos" were funny though.  Smiley
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« Reply #33 on: June 15, 2010, 01:30:49 AM »

The Bible is the historical record of the prophecies and subsequent fulfilments of those prophecies regarding God becoming a man to save His creation from the curse of death.
The compound fruition of all of the O.T. prophetic predictions regarding the birth and death of the Messiah was against all reasonable odds... indeed was virtually impossible and yet - they all came to be!
I read your posts within "Why Christianity?" and was thoroughly unimpressed by your various comments on prophecy, statistical odds, etc. 

I would be interested in a sincere computation of the events in Daniel 9 predicting when exactly the Messiah would come.
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« Reply #34 on: June 15, 2010, 04:45:13 AM »

"I could care less."

"Then why don't you?"

I can't help it if people are offended for silly reasons.

I understand where you're coming from... and maybe I'm a little too defensive - but I mean come on! Get a helmet Feanor! If you're going to be "offended" at least have a good reason.



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"Though quoting the Bible to someone who views it as a mere compilation of man-made moral and religious tennants (no different than those of Marcus Aurelius or Immanuel Kant) seems fruitless."

The Bible does not just contain "man-made moral and religious tenets "...

The Bible is the historical record of the prophecies and subsequent fulfilments of those prophecies regarding God becoming a man to save His creation from the curse of death.

The compound fruition of all of the O.T. prophetic predictions regarding the birth and death of the Messiah was against all reasonable odds... indeed was virtually impossible and yet - they all came to be!

How can you deny this fact? You have decided that the truth is a lie! You're dancing with the unforgivable sin friend...



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"I don't see how any claims of genetics or ancestry has anything to do with a religious affiliation such as has been brought up in other threads."

Which was exactly my point! They are the ones who classify themselves as a race - not I!



Thanks to all who have replied... Some good stories!

A couple of questions though:

Quote
... "Me too, Tallitot, me too!"

Ahem...

  • Why are so many people here so accepting; indeed so very enamored  with someone who has rejected Jesus Christ? Would you all be equally impressed with a new convert to the 'church of Satan' (which was - incidentally also founded by a so-called 'Jew')?

  • Why is it that out of the 272 people who have viewed this poll... only 37 people have replied?!? It's completely anonymous just to answer the poll! How many of those two hundred and thirty-some odd people who didn't  reply are also Protestants?



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« Reply #35 on: June 15, 2010, 05:15:54 AM »

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"I read your posts within "Why Christianity?" and was thoroughly unimpressed by your various comments on prophecy, statistical odds, etc.  As were many of your fellow Christians..."

Which of my "fellow Christians" said anything about it? I never saw anyone mention it.

How can you be unimpressed with odds like this?:

One chance in -

100,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,
000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,
000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,
000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000.

And that was only the odds of fulfilling 48 prophecies... As I've detailed - there were over 450 O.T. prophecies fulfilled in Jesus the Christ! This page probably isn't big enough to hold the zeros in the number that would result from calculating those odds.

I must reiterate... How can you fathomably deny the sheer impossibility of these numbers?!?



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Me too!

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"I would be interested in a sincere computation of the events in Daniel 9 predicting when exactly the Messiah would come."

Me too!

Say... Isn't Nebelpfade a mathematician? Oh, no - wait... a computationalist. I'll bet he could figure it out (if he can find a big enough calculator!)



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"I'll pray for you."

Well thanks... I certainly need it! But why don't you just tell me why you were so offended?
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« Reply #36 on: June 15, 2010, 09:18:04 AM »

Beloved in the Lord,

I note the Convert Issues Forum is getting a bit frisky and contentious on this topic for some reason. May I remind you that the purpose of the Convert issues forum is to provide a place on the OC.Net where inquirers, catechumen, and newly converted could ask their questions about the Orthodox Faith in a safe and supportive forum without retribution or recrimination. Many of those posting in this area are ignorant of Orthodox teachings and are using this forum to understand what are the basic teachings and practices of the Orthodox churches. Due to the simplicity of many of their requests and responses, direct and simple answers with sources if possible are most helpful... The convert forum is not a place for combative debate or arguement. 

Thank you for your following these guidelines to the edification and spiritual growth of the forum inquirers, catechumen, and newly converted.

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« Reply #37 on: June 15, 2010, 10:01:47 AM »

I'm trying to determine the demographic here at O.C.net...

Who are  you people?

I myself am from a Roman Catholic background - which I was born and baptized into.



May I ask why you are not in any given Orthodox Church right now?
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« Reply #38 on: June 15, 2010, 01:57:06 PM »

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Oh? How have I been "acting"?

Extremely condescending.
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« Reply #39 on: June 15, 2010, 02:02:42 PM »

I was baptized RC, raised Episcopalian, now Jewish.

I would love to hear about your spiritual journey. Please pm me.
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When I have time to write it down I'll be PM'ing it to several folks here who have asked.

Feel free to PM this to me as well. As for the OP, I was Protestant for a while.
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« Reply #40 on: June 15, 2010, 02:26:09 PM »

I was raised as a Roman Catholic of the Charismatic variety. In late high school/early college, I flirted with protestantism (American Evangelicalism) and after serious scripture study, and the movement of the Holy Spirit, I became solidly Roman Catholic. After reading the Fathers of the Church and Cardinal Ratzinger's The Spirit of the Liturgy, I adopted a very traditional Roman Catholic stance on spirituality and the liturgy. You can now consider me a Traditional/Thomistic Roman Catholic who has a great love for the Byzantine East and theologians such St. John of Damascus.
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« Reply #41 on: June 15, 2010, 04:10:17 PM »

I was baptized Presbyterian as an infant, but never was taken to church.  dad is Roman Catholic, mum is (non-practicing) Protestant.  I really had no specific religous denom. except "Christian".
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« Reply #42 on: June 15, 2010, 04:21:27 PM »

WHAT?!?

No offense - but...

"The fool has said in his heart, 'There is no God.'"
- Psalms 14:1, 53:1


No offence taken.  Though quoting the Bible to someone who views it as a mere compilation of man-made moral and religious tennants (no different than those of Marcus Aurelius or Immanuel Kant) seems fruitless.  laugh

The Apostle Paul said in season and out of season....second, what does fruitlessness have to do with it....? 
However, can anyone really think they can argue sight into another mans vision?   

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« Reply #43 on: June 15, 2010, 04:25:15 PM »

Ever hear of the story of the ugly duckling?

That is my story of being a Protestant...it was where I was raised, it was what I knew, but then I saw others who were more like me and whom I wanted to be more like.

Was I ever a Protestant? Yes, but my heart wasn't in it.

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« Reply #44 on: June 15, 2010, 06:47:56 PM »

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"I note the Convert Issues Forum is getting a bit frisky and contentious on this topic for some reason."

My apologies. I've been somewhat on the defensive since I got here... I'll try to bite my tongue.



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"May I ask why you are not in any given Orthodox Church right now?"

Sure. While I have been solidly Orthodox in belief for a couple of years now... I was without a Church. The nearest Church was over 3 hours drive from where I live (and I don't drive).

I was actually planning on moving as soon as possible just so I could join that congregation. However - thanks be to God, a new Church just opened about 10 mins. from my house! Apparently they had been (unbeknownst to me) meeting in a local funeral chapel!

It is a Ukrainian Orthodox Church... and once I've finally been Chrismated I will change my jurisdictional status. Technically I'm not really a member of the community until I can receive the Eucharist.



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"I think people are being shockingly polite with you, Saint Iaint, for how you have been acting on these forums."

Oh? How have I been "acting"?

Extremely condescending.

I'm sorry if I came off that way... that really was not my intention.

Can you accept my sincere apology now?
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