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« on: June 12, 2010, 06:57:33 PM »

Are there any EOT Christians in the US under the jurisdiction of Abune Paulos' synod (mainland Ethiopian), or are all of them in Abune Merkorios' synod ("Legitimate Holy Synod of the Ethiopian Orthodox Tewahedo Church in Exile")?

How is jurisdiction distributed in Abune Merkorios' synod? Whose local diocese would be represented in the SF Bay Area?
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« Reply #1 on: June 13, 2010, 04:30:22 AM »

The Holy Synod (Abune Paulos) has 3 dioceses in the US: Washington (DC), NYC, and Berkeley (CA).  They were established about 3 years ago - dividing the single diocese that the Synod had established after it excommunicated the US Archbishop, Abune Yesehaq. of blessed memory, back in the early '90s when he refused to acknowledge Abune Paulos' election.

The Holy Synod in Exile was headquartered in Oakland (CA), last I knew. Not certain how many parishes it currently has in the US, but it is the smaller of the two.

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« Reply #2 on: June 13, 2010, 06:30:49 AM »

There are still some "independent" (bishopless) parishes of former Abuna Yesehaq's archdiocese.
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« Reply #3 on: June 13, 2010, 06:32:05 AM »

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« Reply #4 on: June 13, 2010, 06:56:04 PM »

Berkeley (CA).

I wasn't aware of there being any EOT religious organizations in Berkeley...?

The Holy Synod in Exile was headquartered in Oakland (CA), last I knew.

This?:

http://www.msmedhanealem.org/
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« Reply #5 on: June 13, 2010, 09:02:54 PM »

There are still some "independent" (bishopless) parishes of former Abuna Yesehaq's archdiocese.

Michal,

I thought the Synod in Exile ordained new bishops for North America (US and Canada) in 2007?

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« Reply #6 on: June 13, 2010, 09:20:53 PM »

I wasn't aware of there being any EOT religious organizations in Berkeley...?

Actually, it appears that there is not any longer, altho the chancery/episcopal residence may be - online presence is thin on info.  

Medhane Alem (linked below) is the seat of the western US bishop of Abune Paulos' synod. I see that it's now in Oakland; it was formerly in Berkeley, at Hearst Ave and 8th St  - until at least 2006 or 2007.

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I can't locate a US address for the Synod in Exile, but they've historically concentrated on the west coast.

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« Reply #7 on: June 13, 2010, 09:26:19 PM »

Does anyone have a good history of what happened between the two groups?  I'd love to know more about the two groups and where they are now. 

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« Reply #8 on: June 14, 2010, 11:14:52 AM »

I thought the Synod in Exile ordained new bishops for North America (US and Canada) in 2007?

Yes, indeed. But the important thing here is that while Abune Yesehaq was cooperating with the Synod in Exile, he was not a member of it. The moment he died, the Archdiocese of the Western Hemisphere and South Africa became bishopless and remains so till now. Please, note that for example in Atlanta, GA, there are two Ethiopian Orthodox parishes: one which is under Patriarch Merkorios (http://www.kmariam.org) and another one which was founded by Abune Yesehaq but currently is under no hierarch (http://www.atlantagabriel.org).
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« Reply #9 on: July 06, 2010, 04:40:32 PM »

My brothers in Christ,

Peace to you...there is still confusion in the mainstream medias [Ethiopian Orthodox Tewahido Church community], because of political and anti-Ethiopian government motivators, that demotivate not only EOTC members, but Eritrean Orthodox and the entire Orthodox community.  I believe that although our Orthodox communities do not completely practice inter-communion activities, there is a connection that cannot be broken amongst us as spiritual kinsfolk.

Anyway, the so-called Synod in Exile of the EOTC ultimately divides the people from their mother country Ethiopia, which is the seat of the only, true patriarchate.  The excuse that H.H. Aba Pawlos is the divider is a cop-out and a poor excuse to deny Ethiopia!  Ethiopian Orthodox Christians are happily filing for asylum in lands of immigration, under the influence of these hierarchs and clergy that have established independent diocese(s).  The once faithful and potentially faithful are confused, confounded and have a hard time separating secular politics from church politics, if you will. 

During Patriarch Merkerios' enthronement, a dark-period of the Church clouded every facet of the country, under the influence of Communism and Socialism.  The patriarch and his fellows sold themselves and the innocent people instead of defending our Orthodox faith-that is simple.  In America, this was compounded by Abune Yesehaq’s refusal to accept his former friend’s unanimous election to the patriarchal throne [Aba Pawlos].  At the same time, Aba Melketsidek and Aba Zena Markos [who recently died] were collaborators against the Ethiopian Synod and people.  They tried to gain a duality to the Ethiopian patriarchate during the patriarchal transition after Aba Merkerius was unanimously elected-out of the patriarchate for crimes against the Church and people. 

Knowing that the common people have no idea concerning Canon Law, they [Aba Melketsidek, Aba Zena Markos and Aba Yesehaq] manipulated politicians, mostly those outside of the US who were opposing the Derg (Communists), with half-truths.  This aided the escalation of opposition to Aba Pawlos and sparked a lingering ethnic revolution in the Church and amongst countrymen. 

Now, it has become a complex powder-keg, the wish of Satan’s children.  It is very difficult to fathom this complexity and how it trickles down to the very soil of Ethiopia!  The economic situation doesn’t help the situation, because unfortunate nature of human beings are to scapegoat one another and the religious affiliation one may have. 

So, the Patriarch of the Ethiopian Orthodox Tewahido Church is His Holiness Aba Pawlos [His Holiness is the Fifth Ethiopian patriarch]. The current archbishops of the EOTC in the Western Hemisphere are: Aba [Abune] Zekarias in New York; Aba Abraham in the District of Columbia; Aba Ewastetewos [Eustathius] in California and Aba Thaddeaus in Trinidad & Tobago [W.I.]. 
That bishop that was on the site with the link is Aba Melketsidek, an excommunicated and renegade bishop.

Thank you for reading and I hope that this helped. Please pray for all of our peace and unity.

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« Reply #10 on: July 06, 2010, 08:08:38 PM »

Aba Ewastetewos [Eustathius] in California

Do you happen to know where the seat of his diocese is?
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« Reply #11 on: July 07, 2010, 11:26:35 AM »

Peace to you, my brother...

I am 98% sure that this is the seat of His Eminence Archbishop Abune [Bitsu Aba] Ewestatewos:

Debre Yibabe Kulbi Q'dus Gabriel EOTC

http://www.debreyibabe.org/index.htm
http://www.debreyibabe.org/contactus.htm

When you call, ask for Aba Hiruye [hi (as in him)-roo (as in room)-yee (as in yield)]; you have now added to your Gi'iz pronounciation! This priest (monk) speaks English well and is very friendly. Please let me know if you were successful or not.  I know...the organization needs much improvement.

Sincerely in Christ,

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« Reply #12 on: July 07, 2010, 05:27:30 PM »

Are there any EOT Christians in the US under the jurisdiction of Abune Paulos' synod (mainland Ethiopian), or are all of them in Abune Merkorios' synod ("Legitimate Holy Synod of the Ethiopian Orthodox Tewahedo Church in Exile")?

How is jurisdiction distributed in Abune Merkorios' synod? Whose local diocese would be represented in the SF Bay Area?

Even though I don't know the detail; I think most of the churches in the US are under the authority of the holy synod in Ethiopia. There may be some churches in the US who may be under the synod in exile. I will try to look in to this.
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« Reply #13 on: July 07, 2010, 07:02:57 PM »

Peace to you, my brother...

I am 98% sure that this is the seat of His Eminence Archbishop Abune [Bitsu Aba] Ewestatewos:

Debre Yibabe Kulbi Q'dus Gabriel EOTC

http://www.debreyibabe.org/index.htm
http://www.debreyibabe.org/contactus.htm

When you call, ask for Aba Hiruye [hi (as in him)-roo (as in room)-yee (as in yield)]; you have now added to your Gi'iz pronounciation! This priest (monk) speaks English well and is very friendly. Please let me know if you were successful or not.  I know...the organization needs much improvement.

Sincerely in Christ,

haile amanuel



Thank you!
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« Reply #14 on: July 09, 2010, 11:15:43 AM »

Dear Elijah,

I'm sorry that I overlooked the statement concerning the congregations that support Aba Merkerios and did not address it also.  There are many churches under the 'awning' of the so-called 'synod in exile'.  They are everywhere and even their representatives creep their way into legitimate EOTC congregations and cause strife. 

They are in New York City and State/New Jersey, definitely in the District/Metro Area, Washington State, Texas [Houston Area]; All over California; Arizona (?); Nevada, Colorado; Minnesota; Illinois; Georgia; Canada and Europe [Sweden, England (?)].  Perhaps in other areas of the US and Europe, I am sure. They have influenced supporters in Ethiopia, especially clergy and those who return from the lands of immigration, who may have financial success. 

This is a link to the official resolution of the EOTC Holy Synod concerning the excommunication of the faction lead by Aba Merkerios and his servants:

http://www.eotc-patriarch.org/letter.pdf

http://www.eotc-patriarch.org/Resolutions%20passed%20by%20the%20Holy%20Synod%20of%20the%20Ethiopian%20Orthodox%20Tewahedo%20Church.pdf

I hope that this helped...

Sincerely in Christ,

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« Reply #15 on: July 09, 2010, 01:26:42 PM »

Hello all,

I am a brand new member of this forum and am very excited about finding it.  Let me add my two cents on this subject which has a long history and is quite complex.  However there are actually three groupings of the Ethiopian Orthodox Tewahido Church in the United States.  There are those churches as discussed above that are part of the 3 dioceses that come under the jurisdiction of the Holy Synod in Addis Ababa headed by Abune Paulos, Patriarch of Ethiopia.   There are also numerous churches that fall under the heirarchy of the Synod in Exile headed by the former Patriarch Abune Merkorios.  These two groups have excommunicated each other.  The Holy Synod and Patriarch in Addis Ababa are the ones that are generally recognized as canonical.  There is a third rather large grouping of churches that prefers to call itself "neutral".  It's position is rather complex.  It maintains that the canonical synod is the one in Addis Ababa.  However, due to various disputes and concerns about church administration and political issues it has placed itself outside the administration of the diocese system of the Ethiopian Church in the west.  At the same time this group has denounced the appointment of bishops by the exiled synod and does not recognize or participate in it's actions either saying there can be only one Holy Synod of the Ethiopian Orthodox Church and that is the one in Addis Ababa.

There have been efforts to heal the rift between the Addis Ababa and Exile synods and these efforts continue.  There was a serious set back when the Exile Synod decided to consecrate 13 new bishops causing the excommunications to be issued from Addis Ababa, and the retaliatory excommunications to be issued by the Exiled Synod.  However efforts at reconciliation have begun again, and after recent discussions the two sides have agreed to meet and work on ending this scism.  A healing of this rift will probably also end the existance of the third "neutral" group since it essentially does not dispute the legitimacy of the Addis Ababa Synod and Patriarchate.

Please pray for the unity of the Ethiopian Orthodox Church.
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« Reply #16 on: July 09, 2010, 04:17:50 PM »

Dear Elijah,

I'm sorry that I overlooked the statement concerning the congregations that support Aba Merkerios and did not address it also.  There are many churches under the 'awning' of the so-called 'synod in exile'.  They are everywhere and even their representatives creep their way into legitimate EOTC congregations and cause strife. 

They are in New York City and State/New Jersey, definitely in the District/Metro Area, Washington State, Texas [Houston Area]; All over California; Arizona (?); Nevada, Colorado; Minnesota; Illinois; Georgia; Canada and Europe [Sweden, England (?)].  Perhaps in other areas of the US and Europe, I am sure. They have influenced supporters in Ethiopia, especially clergy and those who return from the lands of immigration, who may have financial success. 

This is a link to the official resolution of the EOTC Holy Synod concerning the excommunication of the faction lead by Aba Merkerios and his servants:

http://www.eotc-patriarch.org/letter.pdf

http://www.eotc-patriarch.org/Resolutions%20passed%20by%20the%20Holy%20Synod%20of%20the%20Ethiopian%20Orthodox%20Tewahedo%20Church.pdf

I hope that this helped...

Sincerely in Christ,

haile amanuel

How do you know if one church is led by the synod in exile? I am aware that the synod is exile and the one in Ethiopia have disagreements. Other than that as far as I can tell  Ethiopians have political differences and that seem to affect the congregation of the church. Ethiopians living abroad may see somethings going on that they may not like at home, and I think that is the main problem of the church.
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« Reply #17 on: July 09, 2010, 05:38:04 PM »

Dear Elijah,

I'm sorry that I overlooked the statement concerning the congregations that support Aba Merkerios and did not address it also.  There are many churches under the 'awning' of the so-called 'synod in exile'.  They are everywhere and even their representatives creep their way into legitimate EOTC congregations and cause strife. 

They are in New York City and State/New Jersey, definitely in the District/Metro Area, Washington State, Texas [Houston Area]; All over California; Arizona (?); Nevada, Colorado; Minnesota; Illinois; Georgia; Canada and Europe [Sweden, England (?)].  Perhaps in other areas of the US and Europe, I am sure. They have influenced supporters in Ethiopia, especially clergy and those who return from the lands of immigration, who may have financial success. 

This is a link to the official resolution of the EOTC Holy Synod concerning the excommunication of the faction lead by Aba Merkerios and his servants:

http://www.eotc-patriarch.org/letter.pdf

http://www.eotc-patriarch.org/Resolutions%20passed%20by%20the%20Holy%20Synod%20of%20the%20Ethiopian%20Orthodox%20Tewahedo%20Church.pdf

I hope that this helped...

Sincerely in Christ,

haile amanuel

How do you know if one church is led by the synod in exile? I am aware that the synod is exile and the one in Ethiopia have disagreements. Other than that as far as I can tell  Ethiopians have political differences and that seem to affect the congregation of the church. Ethiopians living abroad may see somethings going on that they may not like at home, and I think that is the main problem of the church.

The easiest way to tell what group a church belongs to for an Ethiopian is to listen during the liturgy.  The Addis Ababa Synod Churches pray for Patrairch Abune Paulos,  Exile Synod churches always pray for Patriarch Abune Merkorios, the "neutral" churches usually simply pray for "All the Archbishops and Bishops".
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« Reply #18 on: July 10, 2010, 09:08:11 AM »

Dear Elijah,

I'm sorry that I overlooked the statement concerning the congregations that support Aba Merkerios and did not address it also.  There are many churches under the 'awning' of the so-called 'synod in exile'.  They are everywhere and even their representatives creep their way into legitimate EOTC congregations and cause strife. 

They are in New York City and State/New Jersey, definitely in the District/Metro Area, Washington State, Texas [Houston Area]; All over California; Arizona (?); Nevada, Colorado; Minnesota; Illinois; Georgia; Canada and Europe [Sweden, England (?)].  Perhaps in other areas of the US and Europe, I am sure. They have influenced supporters in Ethiopia, especially clergy and those who return from the lands of immigration, who may have financial success. 

This is a link to the official resolution of the EOTC Holy Synod concerning the excommunication of the faction lead by Aba Merkerios and his servants:

http://www.eotc-patriarch.org/letter.pdf

http://www.eotc-patriarch.org/Resolutions%20passed%20by%20the%20Holy%20Synod%20of%20the%20Ethiopian%20Orthodox%20Tewahedo%20Church.pdf

I hope that this helped...

Sincerely in Christ,

haile amanuel

How do you know if one church is led by the synod in exile? I am aware that the synod is exile and the one in Ethiopia have disagreements. Other than that as far as I can tell  Ethiopians have political differences and that seem to affect the congregation of the church. Ethiopians living abroad may see somethings going on that they may not like at home, and I think that is the main problem of the church.

The easiest way to tell what group a church belongs to for an Ethiopian is to listen during the liturgy.  The Addis Ababa Synod Churches pray for Patrairch Abune Paulos,  Exile Synod churches always pray for Patriarch Abune Merkorios, the "neutral" churches usually simply pray for "All the Archbishops and Bishops".
So are you saying you heard all the churches in the cities you listed above pray for Abune Merkorios during liturgy?
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« Reply #19 on: July 16, 2010, 03:34:05 AM »

A tangent on the royal priesthood and masonry was split off and put here:

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