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Would someone...ahem EkhristosAnesti, minasoliman, deusveritasest, Salpy  ...be so kind as too provide a list of source documents (weblinks, books, etc.) explaining OO theology. Thanks! |
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« Reply #1 on: June 02, 2010, 01:58:51 PM » |
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I think I'll make this a sticky. Also, I would like the purpose to be broader, to include other resources on the Oriental Orthodox besides theology, including history and culture. And please, when someone posts a link, don't just make it a bare link. Please give a short explanation of what the link is about.  |
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« Reply #2 on: June 02, 2010, 02:04:47 PM » |
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Books on the Armenian Church can be found at St. Vartan Bookstore, which is part of the Armenian Eastern Diocese of the United States: http://www.stvartanbookstore.com/ |
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« Reply #4 on: June 02, 2010, 05:05:56 PM » |
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Erkohet.com has theological articles, prayers, lives of saints, and other resources from all the Oriental Orthodox traditions: http://www.erkohet.com/ |
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« Reply #5 on: June 02, 2010, 05:14:38 PM » |
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Another good Armenian Church resource is Fr. Shnork Souin's site: http://www.myarmenianchurch.org/teachme.asp |
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« Reply #6 on: June 02, 2010, 05:19:06 PM » |
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OK, now for the important stuff: http://www.recipehound.com/Recipes/armenia.htmlArmenian recipes. Since Oriental Orthodox cuisine is the best in the world, I'm going to ask our posters here to not hold back, but link to other recipe sources, if they exist. (We should definitely get some converts out of this. ) |
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« Reply #7 on: June 02, 2010, 08:43:46 PM » |
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Dear Salpy,
Do know a good Armenian Church in NJ that has a huge bookstore in their church, that might include something like HH Catholicos Karekin's "The Council of Chalcedon and the Armenian Church"?
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« Reply #8 on: June 02, 2010, 08:53:02 PM » |
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You can find the churches in New Jersey here: http://www.armenianchurch.net/parishes/index.phpYou may want to try calling them. Also, Fr. Shnork Souin's church I think is in New Jersey. You also may want to contact St. Vartan Bookstore, above. |
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« Reply #9 on: June 04, 2010, 04:54:58 PM » |
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There's a great deal of info on the Internet Archive, here's a sampling for a search of "coptic": The ancient Coptic churches of Egypt (1884) Author: Butler, Alfred J. http://www.archive.org/details/theancientcoptic02butluoftThe Coptic Psalter in the Freer collection (1916) Author: Worrell, William Hoyt, 1879- ed; Freer, Charles Lang, 1856-1919 http://www.archive.org/details/copticpsalterinf00worrCoptic monuments (1975) Author: Crum, W. E. (Walter Ewing), 1865-1944 http://www.archive.org/details/copticmonuments00crumCOPTIC MARTYRDOMS (High Res) by E WALLIS BUDGE VOL 01 Author: Wallis Budge http://www.archive.org/details/CopticMartyrdomshighResByEWallisBudgeVol01COPTIC MARTYRDOMS (High Res) by E WALLIS BUDGE VOL 02 Author: Wallis Budge http://www.archive.org/details/CopticMartyrdomshighResByEWallisBudgeVol02 |
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« Reply #10 on: June 04, 2010, 06:18:50 PM » |
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It also has Fr. V.C.Samuel's The Council of Chalcedon Re-Examined, which is an excellent resource for understanding the Council of Chalcedon, and the various Christological issues involved, from an Oriental Orthodox point of view.
Agreed. It makes some slightly questionable claims, but that only constitutes about 1% of it. Also, CoptoGreek, I would recommend that you not look to me just because I am assertive and opinionated, for I am not even an initiated member of the Oriental churches. |
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« Reply #11 on: June 04, 2010, 06:22:07 PM » |
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There are some short treatises by some of the early Anti-Chalcedonian Fathers here: http://www.orthodox-library.com/library.htm |
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« Reply #12 on: June 09, 2010, 05:38:14 PM » |
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Dear Salpy,
Do know a good Armenian Church in NJ that has a huge bookstore in their church, that might include something like HH Catholicos Karekin's "The Council of Chalcedon and the Armenian Church"?
I was just at the Western Diocese in Burbank, and they have copies of the above book. The bookstore manager is Sergey: http://www.armenianchurchwd.com/diocesan-staff/ |
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« Reply #13 on: June 10, 2010, 08:07:01 AM » |
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The Coptic Orthodox Electronic Publishing Australia website has loads of docs for download: http://www.coepaonline.org/. Even better if you can get The Christian Orthodox e-Reference Library which they publish: http://www.coepaonline.org/products.php?nav=products&page=coerl. I have many more links I can post when I get home to my laptop which browser has them bookmarked. |
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« Reply #14 on: September 04, 2010, 02:42:47 PM » |
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« Reply #15 on: September 06, 2010, 08:38:52 AM » |
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Gorgias Press founded by George Kiraz is an invaluable resource, especially for Syriac studies. http://www.gorgiaspress.com/bookshop/ |
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« Reply #16 on: September 08, 2010, 09:05:51 AM » |
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« Reply #17 on: September 09, 2010, 02:40:43 PM » |
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Also, Shroro - The Syriac Orthodox Christian Digest http://www.socdigest.org/El-Keraza in English (back issue PDFs, no longer published) http://www.copticpope.org/modules.php?name=Sections&op=viewarticle&artid=62 |
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Brother HaileMaryam Zewashera just started a wonderful blog about the Ethiopian Orthodox Church: http://debregenet.blogspot.com/2010/12/orthodox-tewahido-church-in-brief.htmlSelam |
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« Reply #19 on: February 06, 2011, 09:20:11 PM » |
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I apologize for the lateness of this post, I didn't see this thread until now. Fwiw, here is a list of books that I compiled back when I was exploring the Oriental Orthodox/Eastern Orthodox dialogues (though I didn't end up buying most of them)... I subtracted the books from the list that were of a traditionalist or solely Eastern Orthodox tone/content...
A History of Christianity in Asia: Beginnings to 1500
Among the Copts
The Arab Christian: A History in the Middle East
Christ in Christian Tradition - From the Council of Chalcedon (451) to Gregory the Great (590-604)
Christ in East and West
Christ in Eastern Christian Thought
Christians in the Arab East: A Political Study
The Christological Controversy
The Church of the East: Apostolic & Orthodox
The Church of the East: An Illustrated History of Assyrian Christianity
Committed to Christian Unity
The Council of Chalcedon Reexamined
Cyril of Alexandria
Does Chalcedon Divide or Unite?: Towards Convergence in Orthodox Christology
The Early Coptic Papacy: The Egyptian Church and Its Leadership in Late Antiquity
The Empress Theodora: Partner of Justinian
The Ethiopian Tewahedo Church: An Integrally African Church
The History of the Patriarchs of the Coptic Orthodox Church to 849 AD
Imperial Unity And Christian Divisions: The Church from 450-680 A.D.
The Importance and Contribution of the Oriental Orthodox Churches
Justinian and the Making of the Syrian Orthodox Church
On the Unity of Christ
Oriental Orthodox-Roman Catholic Inter-Orthodox Discussion
Prayers from the East: Traditions of Eastern Christianity
Restoring the Unity in Faith: The Orthodox-Oriental Orthodox Theological Dialogue: An Introduction with Texts
The Selected Letters of St Severus
Severus of Antioch
St. Cyril of Alexandria: The Christological Controversy : Its History, Theology, and Texts
Towards a Common Christology
Towards Unity: The Theological Dialogue Between The Orthodox Church And The Oriental Orthodox Churches
Two Thousand Years of Coptic Christianity
What is the Christian Orient?
Your will be done: Orthodoxy in mission : CWME consultation of Eastern Orthodox and Oriental Orthodox Churches
Most or all of these books should be available through Amazon (or in the cases of a few, Lulu)
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« Reply #21 on: February 19, 2011, 07:58:40 PM » |
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Here is a website with great e-books: http://www.orthodoxebooks.org/ |
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« Reply #22 on: May 27, 2011, 03:21:07 PM » |
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Encyclopedia of Syriac Literaturehttp://www.roger-pearse.com/wiki/index.php?title=Main_PageBTW Roger Pearse has a great blog, well worth following.
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"Spiritual Literature" page of the Ararat Diocese of the Armenian Apostolic Church. Most of the material is available in Armenian, but there are also a few resources in English and Russian. The Armenian section is a gold mine for anyone interested. http://araratian-tem.am/literature.php?id=6 |
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« Reply #24 on: June 22, 2011, 06:00:07 PM » |
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Are there any good books specifically about the historic development of the Coptic liturgy? I am willing to read about other OO liturgies, but at the moment I am primarily [intellectually] curious about the Coptic.
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« Reply #25 on: July 15, 2011, 10:23:35 AM » |
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An overview of and introduction to Coptic literatureby Roger Pearse http://www.roger-pearse.com/weblog/?p=5043
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Are there any good books specifically about the historic development of the Coptic liturgy? I am willing to read about other OO liturgies, but at the moment I am primarily [intellectually] curious about the Coptic.
In terms of books, I did find the following in Gorgias Press. But I haven't read it. Hammond, C. The Coptic Liturgy http://www.gorgiaspress.com/bookshop/p-56570-hammond-c-the-coptic-liturgy.aspxIf you're interested in articles & such: Liturgical Worship in the Coptic Church by Fr. Tadros Malaty http://www.copticchurchreview.com/Coptic/Home_files/volume%208%20No.%204.pdfCoptic Liturgy; Past, Present, and Future By Hany N. Takla https://docs.google.com/leaf?id=0B_xyG83iDJd9ZTRkMmM2NGItOTQ0My00NDAxLTg1ZTAtY2QzZWViODI3YmY3&hl=enCoptic Orthodox Liturgical Chant & Hymnody The Ragheb Moftah Collection at the Library of Congress http://lcweb2.loc.gov/diglib/ihas/html/coptic/coptic-learnmore.htmland more on Ragheb Moftah Ragheb Moftah, A Musical Resurrection http://mycoptic.blogspot.com/2008/10/ragheb-moftah-musical-resurrection.htmlAnd here are some recodings of Coptic Liturgies: http://tasbeha.org/mp3/Divine_Liturgies.htmlI hope this helps. |
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Not exclusively OO but still very good. Brigham Young University & The Catholic University of America Syriac Studies Reference Library http://lib.byu.edu/digital/cua/Syriac Studies Reference LibraryThe Syriac Studies Reference Library is a collection of rare and out-of-print titles that are of vital importance for Syriac studies. It is especially rich in early manuscript catalogs, dictionaries, and grammars, and contains many of the indispensable editions of Syriac texts that were produced in the 18th, 19th, and early 20th centuries This collection was scanned from the holdings of the Semitics/ICOR Library of The Catholic University of America. Free Resource Collection Home: http://www.lib.byu.edu/dlib/cua/http://cpart.byu.edu/?page=54&sidebar |
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Patrologia Syriaca and Patrologia Orientalis : A list of older volumes and contents with links to free online editionshttp://www.tertullian.org/fathers/patrologia_orientalis_toc.htm
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Aghapy, This is a link to the site of the Southern United States Diocese. It's extensive in its articles comprising theology, faith, history, etc. http://suscopts.org/resources/literature/Also, this is a link from the same site that has a question and answer section containing hundreds of questions from different people, all answered by H.G Bishop Youssef who is the bishop of the diocese. http://www.suscopts.org/q&a/ |
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would be nice if there were an OO version of www.ancientfaith.com or www.myocn.net Or if there were a way to get OO segways in there... I know a man involved in Ancient Faith who said he thinks they would be open to the idea... Im actually surprised that the copts dont have anything being as technologically focused as they are :-p, maybe they do and its just not in English too lol |
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Probably the closest thing to Ancient Faith Radio for the Copts would be http://orthodoxsermons.org/, though it's mostly sermons from St. Mark's in Washington D.C. (its place of origin, I think). Still, I like the interface (the search by speaker function is really nice), and the sermons by Bishop Suriel and Fr. Pishoy Salama have really helped me a lot. |
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« Reply #36 on: November 28, 2011, 12:29:12 AM » |
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There is also Logos TV, but I'm not sure how alike that is to Ancient Faith: http://logoschannel.com/new/ |
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ive seen both of those logostv seems to almost never work for me still not too sure why and orthodox sermons i like i just hope it would grow or something... i still get a lot of my teachings from AFR, just wish there were some OO stuff haha
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Saint Mark Church in Los Angeles has many archived videos of sermons, Liturgies and classes. All are are very well presented. stmarkla.orgHere is a good example: http://stmarkla.org/?post_type=external-videos&p=1299 |
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« Reply #39 on: November 29, 2011, 12:57:51 AM » |
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thank you Bridgsboy,dzheremi and Salpy. Welcome to the forum PeterA |
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« Reply #40 on: November 29, 2011, 01:04:19 AM » |
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Aghapy,
Thank you CoptoGeek and Hiwot for the welcome.
Pray for me
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« Reply #41 on: November 29, 2011, 06:38:05 PM » |
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If we're including Live Channels, here are some more: Aghapy TVhttp://www.aghapy.tv/Aghapy TV Live Stream http://www.livestream.com/aghapychannelAlternate Live Stream http://www.aghapytvlive.blogspot.com CTVhttp://www.ctvchannel.tv/CTV Live stream: http://live.ctvchannel.tv/Alternate Live Stream http://ctvcoptic.blogspot.com/El Maqar Live Streamhttp://elmaqar.org/cg/Suroyo TVhttp://www.suroyotv.com/Suroyo TV Live Stream: http://www.livestream.com/suroyotvMalankara Orthodox TVhttp://www.malankaraorthodox.tv/Malankara Orthodox TV Live Stream http://www.malankaraorthodox.tv/mtv.htm or http://www.ustream.tv/channel/malankara-tvI can only speak for the Coptic sites I listed, these are pretty much official ones. There are others, but they're not "officially" supported by the Church. So I didn't include them. |
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« Reply #42 on: December 09, 2011, 03:34:11 PM » |
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A more complete collection: Eastern Patrology (Patrologia Orientalis) & Syriac Patrology (Patrologia Syriaca) - Index Page http://turretinfan.blogspot.com/2009/05/eastern-patrology-patrologia-orientalis.html |
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« Reply #43 on: December 14, 2011, 09:41:18 AM » |
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Alin Suciu's site is an absolute treasure trove for learing about ancient Coptic manuscripts. http://alinsuciu.com/In particular, Corpus Scriptorum Christianorum Orientalium. Scriptores Coptici series – Online VolumesPosted on September 17, 2011 by Alin Suciu http://alinsuciu.com/2011/09/17/corpus-scriptoum-christianorum-orientalium-scriptores-coptici-series-online-volumes/ |
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"Be oppressed, rather than the oppressor. Be gentle, rather than zealous. Lay hold of goodness, rather than justice." -St. Isaac of of Nineveh
"Men never do evil so cheerfully as when they do it from religious conviction" -Pascal
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« Reply #44 on: December 14, 2011, 11:42:27 AM » |
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would be nice if there were an OO version of www.ancientfaith.com or www.myocn.net Or if there were a way to get OO segways in there... I know a man involved in Ancient Faith who said he thinks they would be open to the idea... Im actually surprised that the copts dont have anything being as technologically focused as they are :-p, maybe they do and its just not in English too lol I know that those at Ancient Faith would be open and interested (I know the founders personally). IIRC one obstacle was copyright on the materials they were trying to gather, as they looked at Syriac and Coptic CDs I had. |
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