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« on: January 24, 2004, 01:14:03 PM »
I'm looking for the Russian/Greek/etc translation of "the poor" as in "Matthew the poor".  It is for a story I am writing.  Thank you.   Grin
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« Reply #1 on: January 24, 2004, 04:04:39 PM »
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« Reply #2 on: January 24, 2004, 05:12:14 PM »
Quote from: David on January 24, 2004, 01:14:03 PM
I'm looking for the Russian/Greek/etc translation of "the poor" as in "Matthew the poor".  It is for a story I am writing.  Thank you.   Grin

 Please give us a little more context sensitve usage here, David. Do you have a specific quote needing translation? Attic/Koine is not so easy to apply out of context.

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« Reply #3 on: January 24, 2004, 05:40:10 PM »
I want to use the word to fashion it into a nickname...kind of like "Matthew the Poor" in english.  It doesn't need to be correct, but the character has taken a vow of poverty and I'd like him to adopt "the poor" as his last name so that when someone asks him what his name is he can say John Prevka (if prevka means the poor).  Does that make sense?

This is just something I'm writing for my own amusement so no need for it to be exact.
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« Reply #4 on: January 24, 2004, 06:05:50 PM »
David -

In Russian Matthew the Poor = -£-¦-é-ä-¦-¦ -æ-¦-¦-+-ï-¦


 "Matfe Byedni"
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« Reply #5 on: January 24, 2004, 06:14:03 PM »
Byedni...that's what I needed.  Thanks Linus!

If anyone has the Greek, I'd like to hear that too.
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« Reply #6 on: January 24, 2004, 07:18:37 PM »
Would that be spelt -£-¦-é-ä-¦-¦?
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« Reply #7 on: January 24, 2004, 07:37:22 PM »
Quote from: Serge on January 24, 2004, 07:18:37 PM
Would that be spelt -£-¦-é-ä-¦-¦?

Yeah, actually, I believe you are correct.

My wife agrees with you anyway, and she's a native.  Grin

I will make the correction.
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« Reply #8 on: January 25, 2004, 03:04:15 PM »
There are saints like the brothers Kosmas and Damianos who are called the +æ+++¼-ü+¦-à -ü+++¦ (aNARyeeree) which literally means "silverless, without money" (plural) but they are known as such in the context of their refusing to receive any payment for the healing they performed (singular is +¦+++¼-ü+¦-à -ü++-é/aNARyeeros). In English they are referred to as the "unmercenaries".

How does "Matthew the Penniless" sound, +£+¦-ä+ÿ+¦+»++-é ++ +æ-Ç+¡++-ä+¦-ü++-é (matTHEos o aPENdaros)?

"Matthew the Poor" would be +£+¦-ä+++¦+»++-é ++ +ª-ä-ë-ç-î-é (ftoCHOS, "ch" as in Scottish "loch") but the meaning leans more towards "unfortunate".

That's the best I can do with the meagre resources I have at hand over the weekend. If you like I can ask at work tomorrow where I will be surrounded by Greek linguists Smiley

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