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« on: May 02, 2010, 08:33:50 PM »

Can anyone give me a brief summary of the Apostles' Creed used in the Latin West? I have heard that some scholars say that it is pre/proto-Nicene, and was used in the basic outline of the Nicene Creed. I have also heard that it is a shorthand version of the Nicene Creed which became popular over time. Can anyone shed some light on this for me? Thanks!
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« Reply #1 on: May 02, 2010, 09:14:41 PM »

Can anyone give me a brief summary of the Apostles' Creed used in the Latin West? I have heard that some scholars say that it is pre/proto-Nicene, and was used in the basic outline of the Nicene Creed. I have also heard that it is a shorthand version of the Nicene Creed which became popular over time. Can anyone shed some light on this for me? Thanks!

There is no conection between the two, except that they were both confessions used for baptism, the Apostles at Rome, the Nicene, or the core of what could become the Nicene, at Caesarea in Palestine.
http://books.google.com/books?id=VFFGAAAAYAAJ&pg=PA53&dq=Nicene+creed+Caesarea&hl=en&ei=oiTeS7LtGIvONciyuO8H&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=2&ved=0CDwQ6AEwAQ#v=onepage&q=Nicene%20creed%20Caesarea&f=false
http://books.google.com/books?id=s75viscc3GEC&pg=PA137&dq=nicene+creed+apostles+creed&hl=en&ei=TiXeS-GGCIOoNr28tMEH&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=2&ved=0CD0Q6AEwAQ#v=onepage&q&f=false

For the contrary:
http://www.wlsessays.net/files/ClouteOrigin.pdf
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« Reply #2 on: May 11, 2010, 09:06:03 AM »

Can anyone give me a brief summary of the Apostles' Creed used in the Latin West? I have heard that some scholars say that it is pre/proto-Nicene, and was used in the basic outline of the Nicene Creed. I have also heard that it is a shorthand version of the Nicene Creed which became popular over time. Can anyone shed some light on this for me? Thanks!

Creo en Dios Padre todopoderoso,
creador del cielo y de la tierra.

I believe in God the Father Almighty
creator of heaven and earth.

Creo en Jesucristo, su único Hijo, nuestro Señor.

I believe in Jesus Christ his only Son, our Lord.

Fue concebido por obra y gracia del Espíritu Santo
y nació de la Virgen Maria.

Who was conceived by the Holy Spirit
and born of the Virgin Mary.

Padeció bajo el poder de Poncio Pilato.

He suffered under Pontius Pilate.

Fue crucificado, muerto y sepultado.

He was crucified, died and was buried.

Descendió a los infiernos.

He descended into hell.

Al tercer día resucitó de entre los muertos.

On the third day he rose from the dead.

Subió a los cielos,
y está sentado a la diestra de Dios Padre.

He ascended into heaven,
and is seated at the right hand of God the Father.

Desde allí ha de venir a juzgar a vivos y muertos.

From thence he shall come to judge the living and the dead.

Creo en el Espíritu Santo, la santa Iglesia católica,
la comunión de los santos, el perdón de los pecados,
la resurrección de los muertos,
y la vida eterna. Amén.

I believe in the Holy Spirit, the holy catholic Church,
the communion of saints, the forgiveness of sins,
the resurrection of the dead,
and eternal life. Amen.
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« Reply #3 on: May 12, 2010, 01:50:59 PM »

It is employed, traditionally, at services other than the Mass, where the Nicene creed is used. In the traditional Benedictine office, it is used, IIRC, at Compline and Prime (1st hour).
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« Reply #4 on: May 12, 2010, 08:23:30 PM »




These links may be of interest to some relevant to this topic:

http://www.spurgeon.org/~phil/creeds/apostles.htm

http://www.christianodyssey.com/history/apostles.htm

http://www.ccel.org/ccel/schaff/creeds1.iv.ii.html

http://www.creeds.net/ancient/apostles.htm

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