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« on: January 26, 2004, 04:52:11 PM »
Just read the Oath through a couple of times at :

http://www.truecatholic.org/pope/prevpope-pius10.htm

Does anybody know why was it done away with at Vatican II ?

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« Reply #1 on: January 26, 2004, 06:56:53 PM »
Quote from: Jakub on January 26, 2004, 04:52:11 PM
Just read the Oath through a couple of times at :

http://www.truecatholic.org/pope/prevpope-pius10.htm

Does anybody know why was it done away with at Vatican II ?

james

Good question.  Perhaps it was due to the rise in prominence within Catholic scholarly circles of the historico-critical method of biblical exegesis.  Much of the Oath seems to be aimed at the modernists who use this method (no, not all H-C folks are necessarily modernists).  The end result of the H-C method when unrestrained seems to be the "Jesus Seminar."

When I read Holy Writ for spiritual nourishment the H-C method does not provide me one iota of help.

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« Reply #2 on: January 26, 2004, 06:59:30 PM »
True Catholic? Isn't that the guy in Montana who thinks he's Pope? LOL.
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« Reply #3 on: January 26, 2004, 07:35:02 PM »
Actually what started the research for the Oath was a thread on a RC forum regarding the language of the New Roman Missal, and like most internet threads it went off topic and mentioned the oath and traditions.

If Vatican II refuted the Oath why ? And did it open the door for Modernists ?


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« Reply #4 on: January 26, 2004, 08:20:43 PM »
Jakub,

     This site might help: http://eutopia.cua.edu/article.cfm?ID=81&Page=3

It's an article called, "The Spirit of Vatican II and the Oath Against Modernism."

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« Reply #5 on: January 26, 2004, 08:43:22 PM »
It does satisfy my curiosity, thanks Frobie.

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« Reply #6 on: January 26, 2004, 08:57:48 PM »
  They also did away with the Papal Coronation Oath, which is basically a higher oath against modernism fot eh, well, pope. Lol.

   This is where traditionalist conspirators (I am semi-trad) come in!
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« Reply #7 on: January 26, 2004, 09:10:41 PM »
Quote from: Frobie on January 26, 2004, 06:59:30 PM
True Catholic? Isn't that the guy in Montana who thinks he's Pope? LOL.



Pope Pius XIII actually.  The antipope Pius XIII is the former Fr. Lucien Pulvemacher, OFM.
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