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I just want to know who GLiC is? He list himself as an atheist, but I've found old post on this forum in which he sounds very religious (Plus I know that his username means "Greek Christian"). What happened? How did this man loose his faith (if he had any at all).
Just curious.
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« Reply #1 on: April 12, 2010, 05:03:07 PM » |
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LOL.
Ah, GiC. The only guy I know who laughs even more than Serb1389.
GiC had convertitis. He was a very conservative, anti-ecumenical, Pedalion-toting dude who came to seminary (not as a priestly candidate, but in preparation for PhD studies) and burned out. It happens. Seminary is not an easy place to be.
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« Reply #2 on: April 12, 2010, 05:16:56 PM » |
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He's really knowlegeable and funny. For whatever reason, he not only burned out, he became (seemingly) very jaded and even a little angry at religious life.
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« Reply #3 on: April 12, 2010, 05:21:27 PM » |
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How did this man loose his faith (if he had any at all).
Studying history and theology, I'd wager  |
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« Reply #4 on: April 12, 2010, 05:31:02 PM » |
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How did this man loose his faith (if he had any at all).
Studying history and theology, I'd wager Can't blame him.  |
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« Reply #5 on: April 12, 2010, 05:45:04 PM » |
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« Reply #6 on: April 12, 2010, 08:55:49 PM » |
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"Knowledge puffs up, but love edifies." [I Corinthians 8:1]
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« Reply #7 on: April 12, 2010, 09:03:44 PM » |
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"Knowledge puffs up, but love edifies." [I Corinthians 8:1]
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Amen. BUT "You shall know the Truth and the Truth shall set you free." |
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« Reply #8 on: April 12, 2010, 11:29:36 PM » |
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"Knowledge puffs up, but love edifies." [I Corinthians 8:1]
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Amen. BUT "You shall know the Truth and the Truth shall set you free." Absolutely. But how do we know the Truth? If we seek God only with the intellect, what we discover is merely a mirage. But when we seek Him with our whole being - our heart, mind, soul, and strength - then we experience the reality of ineffable Holy Mystery which is impervious to the critiques of logical scrutiny. It's the seed that falls on shallow soil. It is initially accepted by the intellect, but fails to penetrate into the depths of the heart. Therefore it remains the object of the intellectual passions rather than the passion the spiritual soul. It is simply an intriguing idea that is inevitably cast aside as soon as another more "rational" theory comes along. "Lord have mercy on us."Selam |
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« Reply #9 on: April 13, 2010, 01:39:39 AM » |
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LOL.
Ah, GiC. The only guy I know who laughs even more than Serb1389.
GiC had convertitis. He was a very conservative, anti-ecumenical, Pedalion-toting dude who came to seminary (not as a priestly candidate, but in preparation for PhD studies) and burned out. It happens. Seminary is not an easy place to be.
Great guy, and he really did laugh a lot...i'm not sure if it was more than me though...or at least not nearly as loudly. lol. If you are worried about him, you should write him a message or email. It's always good to let people know you're thinking about them, and even better to pray for them. |
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« Reply #10 on: April 13, 2010, 04:25:11 PM » |
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Thanks for this info. I've also found GLiC to be funny (in an irreverent "Family Guy" kind of way). I did notice reading the archives that he seemed to be very, very traditional back a couple of years ago, but seems to have become very jaded and atheistic.
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« Reply #11 on: April 13, 2010, 04:54:22 PM » |
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Thanks for this info. I've also found GLiC to be funny (in an irreverent "Family Guy" kind of way). I did notice reading the archives that he seemed to be very, very traditional back a couple of years ago, but seems to have become very jaded and atheistic. I'm wondering where you're getting the "L" from... His username is "GiC," and has been since he decided to go with that nickname after his leaving the Church. |
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« Reply #12 on: April 13, 2010, 06:22:27 PM » |
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As I have joined the forum very recently, I have only ever known the jaded, atheist GiC. That he was once traditional (and humorous?) comes as news to me, and only exacerbates my depression. (I have had wonderful Christian friends in the past who are now unbelievers).
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« Reply #13 on: April 13, 2010, 06:54:28 PM » |
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As I have joined the forum very recently, I have only ever known the jaded, atheist GiC. That he was once traditional (and humorous?) comes as news to me, and only exacerbates my depression. (I have had wonderful Christian friends in the past who are now unbelievers).
The apostasy of those who once lived the Christian life is certainly something to mourn, but why do you let it depress you? |
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« Reply #14 on: April 13, 2010, 07:12:30 PM » |
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How did this man loose his faith (if he had any at all).
Studying history and theology, I'd wager Can't blame him. Hey, I'm just saying what a couple Orthodox Christians said to me, when they blamed all the reading I did for my troubles. It reminds me of that line from 12 Angry Men, something like... "Oh, you guys are thinking too much and getting confused"  |
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« Reply #15 on: April 13, 2010, 08:06:34 PM » |
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He that increases wisdom increases sorrow (I'm also in that boat too).
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« Reply #16 on: April 13, 2010, 08:47:22 PM » |
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Why do we have a thread openly discussing a member? Is GiC no longer active on the site? I feel like I am at a wake discussing how someone "used" to be, as if he is no longer with us.  I would hate to leave the site for a few days to come back and find a thread had been created about me. Forgive me, but I find this thread incredibly rude. If someone has questions about a member's faith or lack thereof, should they not PM the person in question and ask them directly? I don't know. Maybe I'm wrong. |
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« Reply #17 on: April 13, 2010, 09:05:37 PM » |
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Why do we have a thread openly discussing a member? Is GiC no longer active on the site? I feel like I am at a wake discussing how someone "used" to be, as if he is no longer with us. I would hate to leave the site for a few days to come back and find a thread had been created about me. Forgive me, but I find this thread incredibly rude. If someone has questions about a member's faith or lack thereof, should they not PM the person in question and ask them directly? I don't know. Maybe I'm wrong. But if someone wants to ask other people who a particular person is, what's wrong with that? I think most of the commentary here has been quite respectful of GiC while still being totally honest. I don't see any attempt to gossip or speak of him rudely. |
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« Reply #18 on: April 13, 2010, 09:10:20 PM » |
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Why do we have a thread openly discussing a member? Is GiC no longer active on the site? I feel like I am at a wake discussing how someone "used" to be, as if he is no longer with us. I would hate to leave the site for a few days to come back and find a thread had been created about me. Forgive me, but I find this thread incredibly rude. If someone has questions about a member's faith or lack thereof, should they not PM the person in question and ask them directly? I don't know. Maybe I'm wrong. I would tend to agree, it does seem out of place, even if respectful, it still comes across as gossip. It might be time consuming, but I believe GICs own words in his many posts speak for themselves. |
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« Reply #19 on: April 13, 2010, 09:15:00 PM » |
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Here's a good rumor:
I heard that once GiC stopped being a Christian, he started torturing felines, much to the chagrin of our avid LOLCATS.COM supporters.
(Just so I don't get banned or warned, this is a joke. It's so fun spelling out sarcasm every time.)
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« Reply #20 on: April 14, 2010, 12:26:00 PM » |
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Seeing as I noticed his status listed as "muted", wouldn't it be a bit tough to ask him personally about his spiritual situation? I don't see anything that "crosses the line", as it were, but let us take care to avoid falling into gossip. I, for one, pray that the Holy Spirit softens GiC's hardened heart and mind, and guides him back toward's the Faith at some point.
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« Reply #21 on: April 14, 2010, 12:27:44 PM » |
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Seeing as I noticed his status listed as "muted", wouldn't it be a bit tough to ask him personally about his spiritual situation? I don't see anything that "crosses the line", as it were, but let us take care to avoid falling into gossip. I, for one, pray that the Holy Spirit softens GiC's hardened heart and mind, and guides him back toward's the Faith at some point.
Might be hard publicly, but nothing stopping anyone from sending him a PM, and probably more appropriate. |
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« Reply #22 on: April 14, 2010, 12:37:50 PM » |
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Ah, okay. I wasn't sure of how being muted would affect private messaging and what not.
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« Reply #23 on: April 14, 2010, 12:39:29 PM » |
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« Reply #24 on: April 14, 2010, 12:43:14 PM » |
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How did this man loose his faith (if he had any at all).
Studying history and theology, I'd wager Only if you want history and Theology to fit in a neat systematic and logical box with no inconsistencies, ambiguity.........etc. |
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« Reply #25 on: April 14, 2010, 12:48:31 PM » |
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"Knowledge puffs up, but love edifies." [I Corinthians 8:1]
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Amen. BUT "You shall know the Truth and the Truth shall set you free." We know truth through prayer and living the christian life in general. Not necessarily through reading books (eventhough, I love reading books). I knew God was real through personal prayer and through personal life experience in struggling to survive in this world. And I knew this back in my protestant days. Other people or people groups may live life with no struggle or pain, and once struggle or pain hits they fall away because they don't know how to deal with pain and suffering. But I had to deal with pain and suffering most of my life, and not just me, but my people in general. If you can't cope with suffering and pain, then pray to God.......He will come to you! Eventually! Just wait on him. For He may not come when you want him, but He's always on time. He is an on time God, oh yes He is! Christ is Risen! |
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« Reply #26 on: April 14, 2010, 02:22:57 PM » |
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Ah, okay. I wasn't sure of how being muted would affect private messaging and what not.
When did you last check his status? He has since been dropped down to Moderated status, which means he has full access to the private messaging system. Not that I find this thread disagreeable, but if you really want to PM GiC, he can read your message and send back a reply. Heck, he could even post on this thread if he submits something a moderator would approve. |
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« Reply #27 on: April 14, 2010, 04:26:59 PM » |
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I confess that it has been a couple of weeks, and I don't really check up on anyone. I simply noticed his muted status whilst reviewing threads he posted in.
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« Reply #28 on: April 15, 2010, 12:28:26 AM » |
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"Knowledge puffs up, but love edifies." [I Corinthians 8:1]
Selam
Amen. BUT "You shall know the Truth and the Truth shall set you free." We know truth through prayer and living the christian life in general. Not necessarily through reading books (eventhough, I love reading books). I knew God was real through personal prayer and through personal life experience in struggling to survive in this world. And I knew this back in my protestant days. Other people or people groups may live life with no struggle or pain, and once struggle or pain hits they fall away because they don't know how to deal with pain and suffering. But I had to deal with pain and suffering most of my life, and not just me, but my people in general. If you can't cope with suffering and pain, then pray to God.......He will come to you! Eventually! Just wait on him. For He may not come when you want him, but He's always on time. He is an on time God, oh yes He is! Christ is Risen! Yes I! Preach my bredda, preach! Nothing wrong with that! Selam |
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