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« on: April 12, 2010, 11:04:22 PM »

Seems like some of the men in my area have become fans of wearing large gold hoop earrings to church, I actually have a friend that wanted everyone's opinion on this, he prefers me to keep him name private.
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« Reply #1 on: April 12, 2010, 11:11:57 PM »

I still cannot believe there are men who wear earrings period.  They always look ridiculous.
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« Reply #2 on: April 12, 2010, 11:13:22 PM »

Seems like some of the men in my area have become fans of wearing large gold hoop earrings to church, I actually have a friend that wanted everyone's opinion on this, he prefers me to keep him name private.
Is he a pirate?

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« Reply #3 on: April 12, 2010, 11:16:02 PM »

Is it "bring a Pirate to Church day" at your parish???  laugh  laugh  laugh



It's good to see that your parish is carrying out God's commandment to be "fishers of men"!  laugh  laugh  laugh
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« Reply #4 on: April 12, 2010, 11:25:56 PM »

An earring on a guy? Meh, could be worse...



Now those plugs/whatever-they-are I just don't get. *shrugs* I don't really much care about earrings for anyone, women included. Actually, I guess I prefer an unadorned ear on a woman... and I don't typically look at the ears of men... so...   Wink
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« Reply #5 on: April 13, 2010, 04:12:28 AM »

Hooped earrings on a man, who's not an actor playing in a period piece? Hoo!! I'm surprised the babushki/yiayies haven't got to them yet. These sorts wouldn't last too long in my church. A finger in the hoop, and a swift downward stroke. Messy, but it solves the problem, pronto.

Personally, large hooped earrings on women do nothing for me, but on men, ewwwww. Far too effeminate and self-indulgent.  Tongue Tongue
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« Reply #6 on: April 13, 2010, 04:15:30 AM »

I still cannot believe there are men who wear earrings period.  They always look ridiculous.

I totally agree!
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« Reply #7 on: April 13, 2010, 07:58:05 AM »

I still cannot believe there are men who wear earrings period.  They always look ridiculous.

I totally agree!

Me too!
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« Reply #8 on: April 13, 2010, 09:30:05 AM »

Superfluous and silly.
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« Reply #9 on: April 13, 2010, 11:48:19 AM »

Until about four years ago I had some facial piercings. Now that I've had them out for a while, I think they look idiotic on other people, but I once loved them. So there you have it. Sometimes we are just silly creatures.
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« Reply #10 on: April 13, 2010, 11:59:01 AM »

Seems like some of the men in my area have become fans of wearing large gold hoop earrings to church, I actually have a friend that wanted everyone's opinion on this, he prefers me to keep him name private.

It all depends on the culture of your local parish. There are canons that prohibit disfiguring the body, and some priests and Bishops have said that piercings fall under that category. However, Archbishop Christodoulos of Athens of blessed memory famously gave a sermon in which he said all young people, including those with tattoos and earrings and crazy hair, are welcome in the Divine Liturgy.
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« Reply #11 on: April 13, 2010, 01:05:48 PM »

Hooped earrings on a man, who's not an actor playing in a period piece? Hoo!! I'm surprised the babushki/yiayies haven't got to them yet. These sorts wouldn't last too long in my church. A finger in the hoop, and a swift downward stroke. Messy, but it solves the problem, pronto.

Personally, large hooped earrings on women do nothing for me, but on men, ewwwww. Far too effeminate and self-indulgent.  Tongue Tongue

So are you saying that you would rather them not come at all then be edified and potentially transformed by the Divine Liturgy? All jokes about pirates aside, I don't think we should try to stop someone from coming to Church because they have a piercing or tattoo that we don't like.

By allowing them to come, we are exposing them to the true teachings of the Church, allowing them to come receive the gift of salvation. By kicking them out, we are no better than than the Pharisees.

When I lived in Atlanta, there was a couple who obviously had an "edgier" sense of fashion. They were married, had a young child, and tended to dress a little bit "Goth." Even though the husband always wore a suit to Church, the wife a modest dress, the colors they wore were always a bit bolder, they had some piercings, and their choice in hair color was definitely unique. The husband had a beard alright, but it certainly wasn't the traditional Orthodox type. laugh

But, to their credit, they brought their toddler to Church on a regular basis, came to pray, and participated in parish life.

In a day and age where the world is screaming "Don't go to Church! It's a waste of time!," they were in the pew on Sunday. I may not have agreed with their style of dress, but I would rather see them in the Church than outside of it.
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« Reply #12 on: April 13, 2010, 01:36:39 PM »

I can't think of an actual cultural reason to have a man wear a hoop in the ear. (outside of fads/fashion)

How is this for irony? I have my ears and septum pierced but I don't wear anything in my ears. The septum ring is MUCH larger (10 gauge) but there is an actual cultural reason to wear it. I don't wear anything in my ears because it seems vain to me. If there isn't a reason for wearing jewelry, I don't think it should be worn to church. And "I like it" isn't a good reason IMO. I wear my wedding ring, a thumb ring with the Jesus prayer in church slavonic that my husband gave me before he deployed, my septum ring and baptismal cross to church- nothing else jewelry-wise.
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« Reply #13 on: April 13, 2010, 08:57:57 PM »

While I don't or rarely wear any form of jewelery, most men in my area of my age group have at least one ear pierced. But do they wear big hoops? I don't recall, so I guess not.  I really dont care one way or another on the subject. If one does or doesn't wear jewelery, that  isn't what matters to me. ( yes, I am a female, and have dated a few gentlemen who wear more jewelery than I do, since I wear none)
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« Reply #14 on: April 13, 2010, 09:00:27 PM »

Wow, reading back hahaha I see I did not clarify that I was talking about gauged rings in ears.
and not actually the hoola hoop earrings bwahahahaha
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« Reply #15 on: April 13, 2010, 09:09:56 PM »

Not only did I have my ear pierced in my twenties, but I also had long hair.  The reason?  I played in a band and the look was just as important as the music.  Fortunately for me (and our fans), I played way better than I looked.
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« Reply #16 on: June 07, 2010, 04:02:06 PM »

I had both ears pierced, now only one. I dont take it out when I go to church. Now hold on, I don't have a spacer or even a hoop, its just a diamond stud. I don't see anything wrong with it. I'm not looking to turn heads, I don't even care if someone doesn't approve or says I look bad with it. I don't see the issue. I never understood criticism of certain dressing habits at church. Being at Church is certainly better than not being there, and quite frankly, I don't think God cares what you're wearing to church, especially minor things like that.
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« Reply #18 on: July 19, 2010, 11:46:06 AM »

lol, I can see wearing an earring like that.  I'd never loose my car keys Cheesy

I think that earrings on men are just nutty. 
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« Reply #19 on: July 19, 2010, 11:48:43 AM »

Not only did I have my ear pierced in my twenties, but I also had long hair.  The reason?  I played in a band and the look was just as important as the music.  Fortunately for me (and our fans), I played way better than I looked.

I don't think the long hair is that un-useual.  the bible says that long hair on a man is a sign of service to God.  (sorry, I can't give you the exact verse.)  this is what I tell my mother when she wants me to get a hair cut!
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« Reply #20 on: July 19, 2010, 03:32:41 PM »

I don't think people should not go to church who have those things, but it can be a distraction for others. That's what everyone needs to remember is that they have a duty to the weaker brother who may be distracted or scandalized. Sometimes people are just going to be tempted or upset no matter what, but lots of times this can be mitigated.

Who's to say who's the weaker person? The person who because of fashion wears earrings and has yet to come to a place where he can understand what that action means or the one who judges him and loses spiritual peace because of it? I don't know. I will say, if one is going to be strict, the charge of vanity and possibly self-mutilation applies to both men and women in this case. However, men wearing earrings can also be seen as an imitation of women (same with long hair on laymen). Like women wearing pants (before the upheavals of the 20th century, this was unheard of. Interestingly, however, men wearing earrings existed before that, but was not mainstream). Not to open that can of worms, but if we're going to be whole-enchilada traditional and get beyond personal taste and look deeply into things as expressed by the Church fathers, that's how I'd see it.
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« Reply #22 on: August 18, 2010, 11:58:55 PM »

I still cannot believe there are men who wear earrings period.  They always look ridiculous.

I totally agree!

Me too!

Ditto! 


And seriously, a hoop ear ring?  I dunno....
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I still cannot believe there are men who wear earrings period.  They always look ridiculous.

I totally agree!

Me too!

Ditto! 


you all make me want to re pierce my right ear, pierce my cartilage twice and pierce my tragea  Grin
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I still cannot believe there are men who wear earrings period.  They always look ridiculous.

I totally agree!

Me too!


Ditto! 


you all make me want to re pierce my right ear, pierce my cartilage twice and pierce my tragea  Grin

When I am made Dear Leader, I will have you thrown in prison for that post.    I don't know what a tragea is but piercing it sounds excruciating!
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« Reply #25 on: August 19, 2010, 12:19:49 AM »

its the little piece of cartilage on the inside of your ear that pokes out, its pretty hard. I've seen people pierce it, it makes a loud crunching noise. Smiley
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its the little piece of cartilage on the inside of your ear that pokes out, its pretty hard. I've seen people pierce it, it makes a loud crunching noise. Smiley

Sounds heretical to me. Tongue
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its the little piece of cartilage on the inside of your ear that pokes out, its pretty hard. I've seen people pierce it, it makes a loud crunching noise. Smiley

Sounds heretical to me. Tongue

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« Reply #28 on: August 22, 2010, 07:53:41 AM »

Hooped earrings on a man, who's not an actor playing in a period piece? Hoo!! I'm surprised the babushki/yiayies haven't got to them yet. These sorts wouldn't last too long in my church. A finger in the hoop, and a swift downward stroke. Messy, but it solves the problem, pronto.
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« Reply #29 on: August 22, 2010, 11:04:24 AM »

I don't have a religious response - but I find this so unpleasant! It is mutilation, and I can't ever feel that is right. I am a woman and constantly people say I should pierce my ears, but the idea makes me feel queasy. Why would I want to stick a piece of metal through my skin?

I can't understand it at all.  Sad
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« Reply #30 on: August 22, 2010, 11:07:01 AM »

This thread makes me want to buy even larger earrings. Or maybe I should switch to those plugs or something.
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« Reply #31 on: August 22, 2010, 11:16:09 AM »

This thread makes me want to buy even larger earrings. Or maybe I should switch to those plugs or something.

I'm sorry if that was in response to what I said. I would never suggest you shouldn't dress as you like, but I am very squeamish and when I see piercings, I just feel a bit odd - a bit like vertigo for people who see the view from a height. I'm a bit pleased to find I'm not the only person who feels like that, because people constantly tell me to get my ears done!

Anyway, sorry if I upset you - didn't mean to sound as outspoken as perhaps I did.
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I'm sorry if that was in response to what I said. I would never suggest you shouldn't dress as you like, but I am very squeamish and when I see piercings, I just feel a bit odd - a bit like vertigo for people who see the view from a height. I'm a bit pleased to find I'm not the only person who feels like that, because people constantly tell me to get my ears done!

Anyway, sorry if I upset you - didn't mean to sound as outspoken as perhaps I did.

Nope, that wasn't response to what you said nor I'm particularly upset either. Smiley My response was meant to come out a little humorous but maybe it didn't turn out so.
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« Reply #33 on: August 22, 2010, 12:06:06 PM »

I'm sorry if that was in response to what I said. I would never suggest you shouldn't dress as you like, but I am very squeamish and when I see piercings, I just feel a bit odd - a bit like vertigo for people who see the view from a height. I'm a bit pleased to find I'm not the only person who feels like that, because people constantly tell me to get my ears done!

Anyway, sorry if I upset you - didn't mean to sound as outspoken as perhaps I did.

Nope, that wasn't response to what you said nor I'm particularly upset either. Smiley My response was meant to come out a little humorous but maybe it didn't turn out so.

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its the little piece of cartilage on the inside of your ear that pokes out, its pretty hard. I've seen people pierce it, it makes a loud crunching noise. Smiley

Sounds heretical to me. Tongue

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« Reply #35 on: August 27, 2010, 05:41:24 PM »

I say men can have earnings if they want... what do you guys mean when you say they look ridiculous? Do you judge people often based on how they look?
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« Reply #36 on: August 27, 2010, 05:44:53 PM »

I don't have a religious response - but I find this so unpleasant! It is mutilation, and I can't ever feel that is right. I am a woman and constantly people say I should pierce my ears, but the idea makes me feel queasy. Why would I want to stick a piece of metal through my skin?

I can't understand it at all.  Sad

I'm relieved to hear I'm not the only woman who doesn't have the stomach to get her ears pierced, Liz! Sometimes I think how nice it would be to be able to wear earrings (but then I'd end up frittering away money needlessly), but then I always stop myself knowing that I"d have to deal with the holes etc. It seems a vicious cycle and purely vanity.
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« Reply #37 on: August 28, 2010, 06:05:37 AM »

Women without earnings look better.
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« Reply #38 on: August 28, 2010, 10:18:55 AM »

I enjoy wearing earrings.  But more importantly, I enjoy SHOPPING for earrings - mostly at thrift shops and yard sales but occasionally at an artist's shop.  It's amazing how many designs there are!  Such a splash of colors and textures nowadays!  

Last month we went to visit my parents and went to a little museum near the beach, where I found a lovely pair of earrings made from seashells.  I love anything that has to do with the ocean so of course I made my husband buy them for me as an early birthday present.   Cool

AND - I had my ears pierced when I was a teenager, so it's already been done.  So I figure I might as well make use of at least two of the holes in my head!  Grin

(As for guys - hey, it's their choice.  One of the waiters at our favorite coffee shop has pierced ears AND a pierced nose - and he actually looks pretty good!)
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« Reply #39 on: August 30, 2010, 05:11:59 PM »

Earrings, hair dying and regrowth, tattoos, the wearing of shorts, women wearing pants, etc.=vanity

Now, I don't know about anyone else, but I'm vain enough without all that stuff.

If we wanted to go beyond the explanation of vanity to specific injunctions against such things, we could. But the problem is that, no matter what they are told, many people will continue to do what they want and find ways to justify it. It is sad. To me, it's a sign of spiritual disorder--all to varying degrees, of course, but it's still there. And we all have some kind of spiritual disorder, but we should be aware of this and appealing to the Physician for help in putting it to order.

I have a hard enough time dealing with my own vanity to deal with other people's, but excess body modification can be very distracting. People should realize that everything they do has an effect on others--even our secret sins.
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« Reply #40 on: August 30, 2010, 07:04:45 PM »

You're right, however for discussion's sake:

Would bodily embellishments be associated with personality?  If so, then it might not be so vain, considering if they're trying to mate up with someone else, revealing the type of personality they are to the personality they want to be with.  As we learn in science, whether or not you intend it, what you do to yourself is a form of innate biological mating ritual.
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« Reply #41 on: August 30, 2010, 07:20:37 PM »

I don't think it's fair to automatically assume that any kind of jewelry, makeup, etc. always automatically equal vanity.

Sometimes people just don't have any other outlet for creativity in their everyday lives, and jewelry can provide a cheerful dose of color in an otherwise humdrum day.  And every little girl loves to play "dress up" - it's just fun!  Grin 

Also, if you're going to say "no jewelry", where do you draw the line?  What about wedding rings?  engagement rings?  etc. ?

Also - interesting that (the subject of this thread being the exception) these "vanity, vanity, all is vanity" rules seem to be primarily aimed at women.  Roll Eyes
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« Reply #42 on: August 30, 2010, 07:26:08 PM »

I don't think it's fair to automatically assume that any kind of jewelry, makeup, etc. always automatically equal vanity.

Sometimes people just don't have any other outlet for creativity in their everyday lives, and jewelry can provide a cheerful dose of color in an otherwise humdrum day.  And every little girl loves to play "dress up" - it's just fun!  Grin 

Also, if you're going to say "no jewelry", where do you draw the line?  What about wedding rings?  engagement rings?  etc. ?

Also - interesting that (the subject of this thread being the exception) these "vanity, vanity, all is vanity" rules seem to be primarily aimed at women.  Roll Eyes

True...

I have always hated male posers, with the chains, the gangsta outfit...

....or the gothic looking people (male or female).  God forgive me, I am sounding judgmental.  But I question the point, and the only thing that seems to make sense is attracting people of the "same culture" so to speak, whether socially or as biologists believe, "mating rituals."
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« Reply #43 on: August 30, 2010, 07:38:06 PM »

the wearing of shorts, women wearing pants

The horror...    Shocked
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« Reply #44 on: August 30, 2010, 08:00:53 PM »

LOL ... if you could see me in my padded bike shorts, you might not call them "vanity" but rather "chutzpah"!  Wink
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