Is becoming a Saint in the world nearly impossible?

[Michał Kalina]

Personally , I think the Church should recognize more Saints who come from the families.  Being good parents are not a easy job. It is difficult to cultivate a son or daugher who can follow God wholeheartly as well. Many prophets or Kings in Old Testament, like David, Samual,Gideon,etc failed to do so as well.

Thus, the Church should canonize more Saints from the families. The Christians can then have the models to follow and learn how to be good parents and cultivate their own sons.

The problem is that most righteous are not known about widely. That makes glorifications of such people rare.

[Shanghaiski]

Personally , I think the Church should recognize more Saints who come from the families.  Being good parents are not a easy job. It is difficult to cultivate a son or daugher who can follow God wholeheartly as well. Many prophets or Kings in Old Testament, like David, Samual,Gideon,etc failed to do so as well.

Thus, the Church should canonize more Saints from the families. The Christians can then have the models to follow and learn how to be good parents and cultivate their own sons.

I really think the notion that saints are models is limited in efficacy. If one is a nuclear physicist, does one need a saint who is also a nuclear physicist to have some sort of example to follow? Perhaps, if we had no communion with the saints. But, in the Orthodox Church, we do have communion with the saints. We have relationships with them. This is critical for our spiritual life. It doesn't matter what mode of life we're in and what mode of life the saints had in this earthly life. There simply are no boundaries of operation and understanding in the realm of the saints. The Holy Hieromartyr Mitrophan of China can be close to a kindergarten teacher in Rhode Island who is not even Chinese--and may never even have heard of St. Mitrophan, for that matter.

Pious married people with families love and venerate monastic saints. Hermits and monastics venerate married saints who had families.

[Shanghaiski]

Personally , I think the Church should recognize more Saints who come from the families.  Being good parents are not a easy job. It is difficult to cultivate a son or daugher who can follow God wholeheartly as well. Many prophets or Kings in Old Testament, like David, Samual,Gideon,etc failed to do so as well.

Thus, the Church should canonize more Saints from the families. The Christians can then have the models to follow and learn how to be good parents and cultivate their own sons.

The problem is that most righteous are not known about widely. That makes glorifications of such people rare.

This is true. Many holy people who have even worked miracles through prayer are otherwise known as "Grandma." They're known in the family, but often no one realizes their sanctity. Likewise, there are many obscure monastic saints whose names and lives we don't even know--so they don't make it on the calendar either. But all of them are saints. All are with God. All are commemorated on All Saints Day, at least. And I'm sure none of them are sitting around doing nothing because no one on earth knows who they are.

[podkarpatska]

Personally , I think the Church should recognize more Saints who come from the families.  Being good parents are not a easy job. It is difficult to cultivate a son or daugher who can follow God wholeheartly as well. Many prophets or Kings in Old Testament, like David, Samual,Gideon,etc failed to do so as well.

Thus, the Church should canonize more Saints from the families. The Christians can then have the models to follow and learn how to be good parents and cultivate their own sons.

The problem is that most righteous are not known about widely. That makes glorifications of such people rare.

Such righteous faithful have a always done much "unseen" work in their lives which has helped protect and preserve the Faith. That they are known by God is a certainty. Given all of the clerical/political intrigue over the centuries,  the church surely needed their simple counterbalance.

[domNoah]

There are a lot of Saints I can think of in Catholicism that come from Families that had children.

St Rita, St Monica, St Frances of Rome, St Nicholas Von Flue, Blessed Anna Marie Taigi, St Louis, Blessed Louis and Zellie.

[Malina]

In my opinion it`s difficult to be a monk outside the world, but also it`s not easy way to be marriage and to follow to Orthodoxy way of life in this world. Of course with God`s help it`s possible to obtain holiness in this world.

[quietmorning]

If you look at a battle field, there are many many 'unknown soldiers'. 

When you look at the memorial services, it is the 'unknown soldier' that receives the most glory. 

There are many many many unknown soldiers in our Father's house.   

I wouldn't worry about it one way or the other.  It is by Him, in Him, and through Him that we can even take a breath, much less, become a saint.  And in that, there is massive hope, because NOTHING is impossible for Him.

So if you are in the world and want to become a Saint - then ask Him, but be prepared to be unknown. . . Look for the greater thing.

[Gunnarr]

I dont have much of an opinion on this. I would just say, most saints are not known and die unknown to most and are never reconginzed. That is what i would say. at least my opinion.


But I can say for certain, that becoming a saint whilst using this forum is actually impossible.

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