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The following was posted on Facebook by His Grace Bishop Savas:

Today, the Orthodox Church remembers the martyrdom of Ecumenical Patriarch GREGORIOS V of Constantinople, who, on this same date, Saturday, April 10, in 1821, was executed by hanging, by orders of the Ottoman Turkish authorities, for his supposed role encouraging the uprising of the Greeks that had begun in the Peloponnese the previous month. He was dragged from the sanctuary of St George's Cathedral in the Phanar after celebrating the First "Resurrection" Liturgy on Holy Saturday morning, and hanged from the entrance gate in his patriarchal vestments. He was 80 years old, and thin, and his executioners had to pull on his legs to achieve their goal. His body was left to hang there for three days before it was given to the mob to drag to the sea. The gate from which he entered God's presence has been shut ever since.
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Re: Anniversary of the martyrdom of St. Gregorios, Ecumenical Patriarch
« Reply #1 on: April 10, 2010, 04:04:16 PM »
Is this His Grace Bishop Savas whose office is in New York?

Also what does he mean by "The gate from which he entered God's presence has been shut ever since."
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Re: Anniversary of the martyrdom of St. Gregorios, Ecumenical Patriarch
« Reply #2 on: April 10, 2010, 04:12:21 PM »
Is this His Grace Bishop Savas whose office is in New York?

Yes. His Grace Bishop Savas of Troas, formerly Chancellor of the Greek Orthodox Archdiocese of America.

Also what does he mean by "The gate from which he entered God's presence has been shut ever since."

The gate itself was sealed shut and has never been opened in honor of the Patriarch who was killed there.
But for I am a man not textueel I wol noght telle of textes neuer a deel. (Chaucer, The Manciple's Tale, 1.131)

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Re: Anniversary of the martyrdom of St. Gregorios, Ecumenical Patriarch
« Reply #3 on: April 10, 2010, 04:23:56 PM »
Christos anesti!
Is this His Grace Bishop Savas whose office is in New York?

Yes. His Grace Bishop Savas of Troas, formerly Chancellor of the Greek Orthodox Archdiocese of America.

Also what does he mean by "The gate from which he entered God's presence has been shut ever since."

The gate itself was sealed shut and has never been opened in honor of the Patriarch who was killed there.

http://www.spraguephoto.com/stock/images/Turkey/tr0451.jpg

His relics are in the Cathedral of Athens.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/ba/Shrine_of_Grigorios_E.JPG

On treatment of the event in the contemporary American press:
http://orthodoxhistory.org/2010/03/the-death-of-patriarch-gregory-v-of-constantinople-1821/#respond
« Last Edit: April 10, 2010, 04:32:37 PM by ialmisry »
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Re: Anniversary of the martyrdom of St. Gregorios, Ecumenical Patriarch
« Reply #4 on: April 10, 2010, 04:42:27 PM »
On my first visit to the Ecumenical Patriarchate I said a brief prayer in front of that gate and took a picture there.

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Re: Anniversary of the martyrdom of St. Gregorios, Ecumenical Patriarch
« Reply #5 on: April 10, 2010, 05:18:12 PM »
On my first visit to the Ecumenical Patriarchate I said a brief prayer in front of that gate and took a picture there.

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I vaguely remember that the gate is referred to kara kapi or siah kapi in Turkish.
« Last Edit: April 10, 2010, 05:19:35 PM by ialmisry »
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Re: Anniversary of the martyrdom of St. Gregorios, Ecumenical Patriarch
« Reply #6 on: April 10, 2010, 06:04:40 PM »

Girildi Mesih!

I vaguely remember that the gate is referred to kara kapi or siah kapi in Turkish.

Mesih Dirildi*    Al Masih Qaam
Ger├žekten Dirildi!   Haqqan Qaam

I have not heard that kind of a designation, but only remember that a nationalist officer called it the gate of spite/grudge.

An interesting detail from political history: The current prime minister went to visit the EP after his first victory in politics as the mayor of Constantinople in 1990s and asked His All Holiness to open this specific gate as a sign of the EP's willingness for peace & forgiveness. Of course, he was turned down.

From time to time some conservative and pro-Ottoman newspapers remind their readers of this tragedy, but praise the slaughter of the Patriarch, whom they consider a traitor.  :'(

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Re: Anniversary of the martyrdom of St. Gregorios, Ecumenical Patriarch
« Reply #7 on: April 11, 2010, 02:45:44 AM »
Did not this same Patriarch condemn the Greek revolution against the Ottomans?  Why then would they hang him as a traitor?

You would think that the Turks would have kept him alive in order to further their political goals of suppressing Greek resistance to their rule?
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