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« on: January 11, 2004, 10:51:03 PM »

We just found out today in church that the Antiochian Orthodox Archdiocese in america has been granted
Autonomus status. Is that a good or bad thing? Dont really matter to me, I wont feel the effects of it, what every they will be, at least if I do its nothing bad :-

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« Reply #1 on: January 11, 2004, 11:11:40 PM »

This was granted back in October at the Holy Synod meeting in Damascus, Syria. It came back up this Sunday because this past week the local Synod of Bishops met and decided to go ahead with a plan to have a special Archdiocese Convention this July in Pittsburgh.

Overall I think this is being looked as a good thing. It will mean that the Archdiocese will have more Bishops and smaller areas for the Bishops to minister to. Also the Bishops are now going to be actual Bishops of their own Diocese instead of auxlieries of the Patriarch assigned to assist Archbishop Philip.

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« Reply #2 on: January 12, 2004, 02:37:44 AM »

In a way it troubles me.  How can a church that has NO monastic presence be autonomous?
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« Reply #3 on: January 12, 2004, 03:20:31 AM »

In a way it troubles me.  How can a church that has NO monastic presence be autonomous?  

Good point.
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« Reply #4 on: January 12, 2004, 11:40:09 AM »

I wonder how this can affect its relations with the OCA.
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« Reply #5 on: January 12, 2004, 12:15:50 PM »

In a way it troubles me.  How can a church that has NO monastic presence be autonomous?  

What canon says otherwise? They don't need their own version of Elder Ephraim to exist in order for a pefectly licit ecclesiastical action to happen. Also, the Church of Antioch predates the formal institution of monasticism-they did somehow manage to exist before that happened.
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« Reply #6 on: January 12, 2004, 02:52:43 PM »

There is a monastic presence in the Antiochian Archdiocese. Besides St. Paul's Skete located in Tennesse there are a number of priest and laity who are true monastics. I know of many people who live an asetic life who are active members of parishes in the archdiocese. So in many ways the monastism that is practiced in the Antiochian Archdioces is much more in line with what St. Anthony established.
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« Reply #7 on: January 12, 2004, 08:55:11 PM »

Boswell, in this case the lack of monasticism is an indicator of the extreme modernism that infects the antiochians.  That wasn't an issue before the establishment of formal monasticism.  In many ways the establishment of monasticism was a reaction to the secularizations within the church after the end of the era of imperial persecutions...

Arimethea,  Saint Anthony went out far from the world and lived in the desert so he isn't an apt comparison.
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