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« on: March 30, 2010, 06:13:29 PM »

what are the differences between the Orthodox Church in America and the Russian Orthodox Church Outside Russia?

didn't they both come from the ROC?
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« Reply #1 on: March 30, 2010, 06:27:28 PM »

They have much in common, like Russian tradition. OCA is mostly New-Calendar, ROCOR is Old-Calendar. ROCOR Churches usually don't have pews and there can be more Church Slavonic. ROCOR Priests and believers can be a bit more conservative (morally, liturgically) than the OCA's ones. Some ROCOR Parishes are allowed to Western or Old-Russian rite. OCA is (or, to not anger anyone: acts as) an autocephalous Church, while ROCOR is a self-ruled Church within Moscow Patriarchate.

They both have Russian Origins but there are a few differences realted to Revolution and all that stuff afterwards. Now they are in communion with  each other (and with the rest of Worldwide Orthodoxy), so enjoy both of them (if you have an opportunity).
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« Reply #2 on: March 30, 2010, 06:27:46 PM »

OCA was affiliated with the Soviet-entangled Moscow Patriarchate, while ROCOR severed all contact as they considered Moscow to be totally corrupted by the communists.
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« Reply #3 on: March 30, 2010, 06:35:45 PM »

OCA was affiliated with the Soviet-entangled Moscow Patriarchate, while ROCOR severed all contact as they considered Moscow to be totally corrupted by the communists.

Most canonical Orthodox churches were in communion with the MP during the Soviet period; ROCOR did not allow concelebration with the MP, but it always recognised the baptisms and marriages of people who had done so in MP churches.
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« Reply #4 on: March 31, 2010, 12:44:27 AM »

I would say that the OCA dosen't have as wide an "array" of services
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« Reply #5 on: March 31, 2010, 01:05:36 AM »

Metropolitan Kallistos of Diokleia, a titular metropolitan in the Greek Orthodox Archdiocese of Great Brittan, while he was Timothy Ware, author of "The Orthodox Church," an excellent contemporary survey of Orthodoxy (which I wish he'd update since the early '90's update that was published), who was in the ROCOR for a time years ago, stated in "The Orthodox Church," that the ROCOR had retained the richness of the most traditional of practices of traditional, historic, Russian Orthodoxy.  For a few years, before its blessed reunion with the Patriarchate of Moscow, the ROCOR was affiliated as a sister church with the moderate Old Calendar Greek Synod in Resistance, Fili, Greece.  He was not comparing it to the OCA with these comments; and I paraphrased the essence of his comments, they are not quoted herein.
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« Reply #6 on: March 31, 2010, 04:34:45 PM »

OCA was affiliated with the Soviet-entangled Moscow Patriarchate, while ROCOR severed all contact as they considered Moscow to be totally corrupted by the communists.

Actually, the Metropolia (what the OCA used to be called) separated itself from Moscow in 1924 and was officially considered in schism with Moscow until Moscow decided to grant it autocephaly in 1970.

For the OP: http://orthodoxwiki.org/ROCOR_and_OCA
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