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tips on memorizing the creed?
« on: March 22, 2010, 01:15:22 PM »
Hello, All. 

I am home all week, and have alot of time to memorize the creed, which I must do by this Saturday (my chrismation)

may I have some tips on how to memorize it?  my priest said that if I can't remember it, he'll hold up a card that I may read from.  but, I think that this prayer will come in handy during my life, so I might as well memorize it now.

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Re: tips on memorizing the creed?
« Reply #1 on: March 22, 2010, 01:18:41 PM »
Read it 5 times a day, including covering up the text as you go.

If you have a computer with sound, record yourself reading the creed without a text, and compare to the text after you finish to spot omissions.

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Re: tips on memorizing the creed?
« Reply #2 on: March 22, 2010, 01:22:20 PM »
Read/say it out loud about 20 times today. Saying it out loud will engage more of your brain. After the tenth time, try doing it without glancing at the text unless you have to. Repeat every day.
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Re: tips on memorizing the creed?
« Reply #3 on: March 22, 2010, 01:40:10 PM »
I think reading it five times a day as Fr. Anastasios suggested and eventually try saying it without looking at the text unless you really have to. Its easy to memorize and it will come natural in time. It will also help to study the Creed and make sure you understand what it really means and then that will also help with memorization and plus, you will be saying it with understanding and not just saying the words.

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Re: tips on memorizing the creed?
« Reply #4 on: March 22, 2010, 05:00:32 PM »
I think reading it five times a day as Fr. Anastasios suggested and eventually try saying it without looking at the text unless you really have to. Its easy to memorize and it will come natural in time. It will also help to study the Creed and make sure you understand what it really means and then that will also help with memorization and plus, you will be saying it with understanding and not just saying the words.
Wow, to truly understand the Creed...that's quite an undertaking. I still don't feel like I fully understand what it means for Christ to be "God of true God" or for the Holy Spirit to "proceed from the Father," or for that matter, what it means to be part of the "One Holy Catholic and Apostolic Church." But I know what you're saying, that the Creed should not be empty words. They are far from empty; in fact, one could spend a lifetime studying the Creed and still not fully know what it says.

As far as memorization goes, there's nothing like repetition. For me, I repeat it until I can say the passage I am trying to memorize backwards. So, for the Creed,

"Amen.
And the life of the world to come.
I acknowledge One Baptism for the remission of sins,
I believe in the One Holy Catholic and Apostolic Church," etc.
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Re: tips on memorizing the creed?
« Reply #5 on: March 22, 2010, 05:07:10 PM »
I have memorized the Creed by hearing it chanted over and over again, so maybe finding a recording of the Creed being chanted will help.
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Re: tips on memorizing the creed?
« Reply #6 on: March 22, 2010, 05:07:39 PM »
I think reading it five times a day as Fr. Anastasios suggested and eventually try saying it without looking at the text unless you really have to. Its easy to memorize and it will come natural in time. It will also help to study the Creed and make sure you understand what it really means and then that will also help with memorization and plus, you will be saying it with understanding and not just saying the words.
Wow, to truly understand the Creed...that's quite an undertaking. I still don't feel like I fully understand what it means for Christ to be "God of true God" or for the Holy Spirit to "proceed from the Father," or for that matter, what it means to be part of the "One Holy Catholic and Apostolic Church." But I know what you're saying, that the Creed should not be empty words. They are far from empty; in fact, one could spend a lifetime studying the Creed and still not fully know what it says.

As far as memorization goes, there's nothing like repetition. For me, I repeat it until I can say the passage I am trying to memorize backwards. So, for the Creed,

"Amen.
And the life of the world to come.
I acknowledge One Baptism for the remission of sins,
I believe in the One Holy Catholic and Apostolic Church," etc.

Yeah, um, some of that stuff is like M.Div. class-work lol.

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Re: tips on memorizing the creed?
« Reply #7 on: March 22, 2010, 05:09:12 PM »
Read/say it out loud about 20 times today. Saying it out loud will engage more of your brain. After the tenth time, try doing it without glancing at the text unless you have to. Repeat every day.

And then you go to the church up the street and the translation is different.  lol, it happens.

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Re: tips on memorizing the creed?
« Reply #8 on: March 23, 2010, 02:04:43 AM »
It helped me to step back and take a look at / memorize the overall flow.  At the first the Creed speaks of God the Father, and the act of creation.  Then it moves to speaking of Jesus Christ; this is the longest "section." First it covers several things about Him and His being; then moves through His life, death and resurrection.  Finally it addresses the end of the ages in relation to Christ.  Next of course it speaks of the Holy Spirit and a several things about Him. Then it finishes up with statements about the church, baptism, and what we look forward to when time ends. 

With writing this out, I'm not making light of the Creed in any way and hope it did not seem so.  Repeating it a lot helps most, but also having in your head the general flow as you move from topic to topic helps as well. 

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Re: tips on memorizing the creed?
« Reply #9 on: March 23, 2010, 11:54:12 AM »
Singing the creed will help you remember it better if you are anything like me. My parish started out singing the Creed like the OCA (we are Antiochian), but then we were instructed to change over to reciting the creed. I still sing it in my head everytime I recite the creed.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2oMGgOozpXM&feature=related

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(The person that put up the video above is a little weird, but the setting of the creed is nice and clear)
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Re: tips on memorizing the creed?
« Reply #10 on: March 23, 2010, 12:04:51 PM »
They (i.e. priests)  used to beat the kids, in the older days, for not knowing the creed by heart.

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Re: tips on memorizing the creed?
« Reply #11 on: March 23, 2010, 12:44:57 PM »
They (i.e. priests)  used to beat the kids, in the older days, for not knowing the creed by heart.

Same the world over. In the Protestant U.S., kids used to get smacked around for not knowing their Bible, a la Proverbs 23:13-14.
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Re: tips on memorizing the creed?
« Reply #12 on: March 23, 2010, 12:57:08 PM »
They (i.e. priests)  used to beat the kids, in the older days, for not knowing the creed by heart.
Same the world over. In the Protestant U.S., kids used to get smacked around for not knowing their Bible, a la Proverbs 23:13-14.
There's too much smacking of children in the world these days.
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Re: tips on memorizing the creed?
« Reply #13 on: March 23, 2010, 09:24:50 PM »
My vote is with the singers/chanters.  Learn it to one of the simple tunes common in the Church.  Then when you say it, sing it in your head but say it normal with your mouth.

Another thing that might help is to write it out while you sing/practice a few times.  The idea is to engage as many avenues of memory as possible.

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Re: tips on memorizing the creed?
« Reply #14 on: March 23, 2010, 10:30:59 PM »
I have memorized the Creed by hearing it chanted over and over again, so maybe finding a recording of the Creed being chanted will help.

You can download an mp3 from this site.

http://www.orthodoxtwopartmusic.org/otpl.html
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Re: tips on memorizing the creed?
« Reply #15 on: March 23, 2010, 10:43:14 PM »
I think all but the shortest prayer rules I've seen include the Creed. Perhaps including it in your morning/evening prayers would help.

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Re: tips on memorizing the creed?
« Reply #16 on: March 26, 2010, 05:35:20 PM »
Best memorizing tip I've ever heard and used:  start by memorizing the last sentence (or portion, or whatever).  Once mastered, add the sentence before that one, then the one before that, etc.  That way, you're constantly "running into" material you've already mastered, reinforcing it.

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Re: tips on memorizing the creed?
« Reply #17 on: March 30, 2010, 07:47:15 PM »
Is it typical for a parish to require a recitation of the creed from memory upon chrismation? My chrismation is probably 6 months away and I probably have about 25% of the creed memorized just by hearing it and trying to sing it in church, but I wasn't aware that I would have to recite it. I just figured I would be reading it out loud.

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Re: tips on memorizing the creed?
« Reply #18 on: March 30, 2010, 08:06:30 PM »
Is it typical for a parish to require a recitation of the creed from memory upon chrismation? My chrismation is probably 6 months away and I probably have about 25% of the creed memorized just by hearing it and trying to sing it in church, but I wasn't aware that I would have to recite it. I just figured I would be reading it out loud.

I have memorized the Creed over two months. I recite the Creed in my evening prayers, and I would gradually add a new line or two until I memorized the Creed.  I enjoy reciting a Creed that has been spoken by so many, and I feel the Creed is an important part of my prayers.
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Re: tips on memorizing the creed?
« Reply #19 on: March 30, 2010, 11:18:10 PM »
Is it typical for a parish to require a recitation of the creed from memory upon chrismation? My chrismation is probably 6 months away and I probably have about 25% of the creed memorized just by hearing it and trying to sing it in church, but I wasn't aware that I would have to recite it. I just figured I would be reading it out loud.

yes, it is.  Well, I wimped out.  I said it from a card.  Butthe reasin behind it is to profess what you believe, therefor declairing that you believe in the teachings of the Orthodox Church (I Believe in one God the father etc. etc. etc.)

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Re: tips on memorizing the creed?
« Reply #20 on: March 30, 2010, 11:23:09 PM »
I still have to read the creed when reciting it in private and I've been reciting it(In some form) for my entire life! :P
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« Reply #21 on: March 30, 2010, 11:24:57 PM »
I still have to read the creed when reciting it in private and I've been reciting it(In some form) for my entire life! :P

Definitely much easier to remember it when it is being sung rather than just saying it from memory.

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Re: tips on memorizing the creed?
« Reply #22 on: March 30, 2010, 11:25:50 PM »
They (i.e. priests) used to beat the kids, in the older days, for not knowing the creed by heart.

Ah, the good ol' days, in the authentic old world Orthodoxy. How I pine for thee, sacred motherland...

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Re: tips on memorizing the creed?
« Reply #23 on: March 30, 2010, 11:27:07 PM »
I would say that  what your saying is true although I would say that it is easier to remember when said as a community because at my parish we recite the creed rather than chant it. :)
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Re: tips on memorizing the creed?
« Reply #24 on: March 30, 2010, 11:27:38 PM »
I still have to read the creed when reciting it in private and I've been reciting it(In some form) for my entire life! :P

I can do it by heart these days, but I'm like you because of the Roman Catholic upbringing. All I had to do was learn to take out a few crucial words, and presto! Orthodox!

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« Reply #25 on: March 30, 2010, 11:31:29 PM »
I still have to read the creed when reciting it in private and I've been reciting it(In some form) for my entire life! :P

I can do it by heart these days, but I'm like you because of the Roman Catholic upbringing. All I had to do was learn to take out a few crucial words, and presto! Orthodox!

I was so afraid to do it by  heart, because I'd been saying it when I said the rosery.  Glad I used a card after all.

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Re: tips on memorizing the creed?
« Reply #26 on: March 30, 2010, 11:32:48 PM »
I still have to read the creed when reciting it in private and I've been reciting it(In some form) for my entire life! :P

I can do it by heart these days, but I'm like you because of the Roman Catholic upbringing. All I had to do was learn to take out a few crucial words, and presto! Orthodox!
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« Reply #27 on: March 30, 2010, 11:49:30 PM »
I still have to read the creed when reciting it in private and I've been reciting it(In some form) for my entire life! :P

Definitely much easier to remember it when it is being sung rather than just saying it from memory.
Only the Russians sing it-a novel practice, I think.
All other Orthodox recite it. I never had a problem remembering it, even if recited.

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« Reply #28 on: March 30, 2010, 11:50:39 PM »
They (i.e. priests) used to beat the kids, in the older days, for not knowing the creed by heart.

Ah, the good ol' days, in the authentic old world Orthodoxy. How I pine for thee, sacred motherland...
My sentiments, exactly  ::)

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Re: tips on memorizing the creed?
« Reply #29 on: March 30, 2010, 11:51:28 PM »
my parish also sings it, and we are an OCA parish.  but, I guess we came from the Russian church so this makes sence

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Re: tips on memorizing the creed?
« Reply #30 on: March 30, 2010, 11:53:04 PM »
I still have to read the creed when reciting it in private and I've been reciting it(In some form) for my entire life! :P

Definitely much easier to remember it when it is being sung rather than just saying it from memory.
Only the Russians sing it-a novel practice, I think.
All other Orthodox recite it. I never had a problem remembering it, even if recited.
My Parish is OCA so technically russian in heritage so maybe it's just our priest
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Re: tips on memorizing the creed?
« Reply #31 on: March 31, 2010, 12:09:32 AM »
I still have to read the creed when reciting it in private and I've been reciting it(In some form) for my entire life! :P

Definitely much easier to remember it when it is being sung rather than just saying it from memory.
Only the Russians sing it-a novel practice, I think.
All other Orthodox recite it. I never had a problem remembering it, even if recited.
My Parish is OCA so technically russian in heritage so maybe it's just our priest

My parish is under the Patriarchate of Bulgaria and we chant the creed. Although I have not been to other Bulgarian parishes to know if we are different from the others.

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Re: tips on memorizing the creed?
« Reply #32 on: March 31, 2010, 12:16:17 AM »
I still have to read the creed when reciting it in private and I've been reciting it(In some form) for my entire life! :P

Definitely much easier to remember it when it is being sung rather than just saying it from memory.
Only the Russians sing it-a novel practice, I think.
All other Orthodox recite it. I never had a problem remembering it, even if recited.
My Parish is OCA so technically russian in heritage so maybe it's just our priest

My parish is under the Patriarchate of Bulgaria and we chant the creed. Although I have not been to other Bulgarian parishes to know if we are different from the others.

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how interesting!  I didn't know that there was a Bulgarian Orthodox Church.

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Re: tips on memorizing the creed?
« Reply #33 on: March 31, 2010, 12:21:59 AM »
They (i.e. priests) used to beat the kids, in the older days, for not knowing the creed by heart.
Ah, the good ol' days, in the authentic old world Orthodoxy. How I pine for thee, sacred motherland...
My sentiments, exactly  ::)

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Re: tips on memorizing the creed?
« Reply #34 on: March 31, 2010, 09:30:23 AM »
Is it typical for a parish to require a recitation of the creed from memory upon chrismation? My chrismation is probably 6 months away and I probably have about 25% of the creed memorized just by hearing it and trying to sing it in church, but I wasn't aware that I would have to recite it. I just figured I would be reading it out loud.

Required?  I don't think so, but can't say conclusively.  We weren't required to memorize it -- we just had after saying it so often during services and prayers.  If we hadn't known it we would have read it from the prayer book the Deacon was holding. 

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« Reply #35 on: March 31, 2010, 09:43:34 AM »
A Christian is required to know: "Our Father", "Rejoice o Mother of God", The Creed, the ten commandments, the  Beatitudes and the nine commandments of the Church.
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« Reply #36 on: March 31, 2010, 11:42:09 AM »
What are "the nine commandments of the Church"?
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« Reply #37 on: March 31, 2010, 12:14:36 PM »
My first "version" of the creed was the 1962 Canadian Book of Commmon Prayer. That, and the Tridentine Latin (!) are the ones I'm most familiar with. With a few tweaks here and there, I see the Antiochians adhere to the Cranmer text. I think their version comes closest to the BCP, even more so than the Jordanville. Makes it easier to remember, although one can get tripped up over "consubstantial with the father / consubstantialem patri" (Roman Catholic) vs "of one essence with the father" (Antioch, GOA) vs "being of one substance with the father" (BCP).