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Offline samkim

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Anglican Breviary and Monastic Diurnal
« on: March 21, 2010, 11:32:37 PM »
Anyone here use the Anglican Breviary or the Monastic Diurnal for their daily prayers?
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Re: Anglican Breviary and Monastic Diurnal
« Reply #1 on: March 25, 2010, 12:42:25 AM »
If anyone does, can they tell me what the primary differences are in the texts of the ordinaries? (I am not asking about the general difference btwn breviaries and dirnals; i know diurnals only contain the day offices)
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Re: Anglican Breviary and Monastic Diurnal
« Reply #2 on: March 25, 2010, 10:08:51 AM »
I would be happy to have someone tell me what a Diurnal is, since the mental image that I am getting is not pretty.
I would be happy to agree with you, but then both of us would be wrong.

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Re: Anglican Breviary and Monastic Diurnal
« Reply #3 on: March 25, 2010, 10:36:01 AM »
Here's a link to FAQ on the monastic diurnal:  http://www.westernorthodox.com/stmark/lion/lion2006-05
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Re: Anglican Breviary and Monastic Diurnal
« Reply #4 on: March 25, 2010, 12:27:48 PM »
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If anyone does, can they tell me what the primary differences are in the texts of the ordinaries? (I am not asking about the general difference btwn breviaries and dirnals; i know diurnals only contain the day offices)

The biggest difference is that the Anglican Breviary follows the 1911 reformed Roman usage of the Psalter, so that psalms are chopped up and arranged so that roughly an equal number of verses are said for each day. The Diurnal (and accompanying Matins volume) use the Monastic (i.e. Benedictine) Psalter.

The Benedictine (and, to an extent, the pre-1911 Roman) Psalter more clearly shows the links between the Western divine office and the Byzantine, with things like the little hours and Compline having (mostly) invariable psalms, Lauds beginning with Psalm 50 and ending with Psalms 148-150 (corresponding with the second half of Byzantine Matins), and Matins having two nocturns on feriae (two kathismata at Matins) and three on feasts (two kathismata + Psalm 118 / Polyeleos in the Byzantine).

Other differences in the ordinary are inherent to the variations between Roman and Benedictine usage, e.g. the Benedictine usage replaces the scripture readings at ferial Matins with a short lesson during the summer months, ferial matins has two nocturns rather than one, etc.

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Re: Anglican Breviary and Monastic Diurnal
« Reply #5 on: March 25, 2010, 01:04:17 PM »
I would be happy to have someone tell me what a Diurnal is, since the mental image that I am getting is not pretty.

A Diurnal, from the Latin diurnalis meaning "of the daytime", just has the daytime offices and skips Matins, which is as long and complicated in the Western rites as it is in the Eastern and is technically a "nightime" office.
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