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« on: March 12, 2010, 11:22:12 PM »

I am deeply amazed and in love with the greek and russian languages.
Sadly I have to wait until college to get started.
I would go to my parish for greek lessons, but I can't make it every week or even every month due to the distance, anyone speak either languages and english that is willing to help me with a head start?
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« Reply #1 on: March 13, 2010, 01:07:17 AM »

I am deeply amazed and in love with the greek and russian languages.


 I love those languages too, but wait till you discover Romanian! Foarte frumoasa!
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« Reply #2 on: March 13, 2010, 06:06:31 AM »

I can help with Greek.
How much do you know? Do you know the alphabet? Is it mainly vocabulary & grammar you need help with?
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« Reply #3 on: March 13, 2010, 09:17:27 AM »

I am deeply amazed and in love with the greek and russian languages.
Sadly I have to wait until college to get started.
I would go to my parish for greek lessons, but I can't make it every week or even every month due to the distance, anyone speak either languages and english that is willing to help me with a head start?

I can certainly help you with Russian. Ukrainian and Russian are my two equally "first" languages (my parents spoke Russian, while my retired grandfather, with whom I, as a little kid, spent perhaps even more time than with my working parents, spoke Ukrainian). My education, from kindrgarten to graduate school, was entirely in Russian.
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« Reply #4 on: March 13, 2010, 03:25:20 PM »

I can help with Greek.
How much do you know? Do you know the alphabet? Is it mainly vocabulary & grammar you need help with?

I don't even know the alphabet in greek
is it larger than the american one?
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« Reply #5 on: March 13, 2010, 03:38:19 PM »

I can help with Greek.
How much do you know? Do you know the alphabet? Is it mainly vocabulary & grammar you need help with?

I don't even know the alphabet in greek
is it larger than the american one?
You mean, the English one? Wink
Its shorter by 2 letters.

Start with the sounds of the letters, and the dipthongs (blends of two letters which make a different sound, for example, the "au" in your name would produce the sound "av" as a dipthong in Greek). Make sure that you don't learn to pronounce according to "Erasmian" Greek which was a failed attempt at a "scholarly Greek" still popular in English speaking countries.
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« Reply #6 on: March 13, 2010, 08:56:30 PM »

I can help with Greek.
How much do you know? Do you know the alphabet? Is it mainly vocabulary & grammar you need help with?

I don't even know the alphabet in greek
is it larger than the american one?
You mean, the English one? Wink
Its shorter by 2 letters.
Oh? I learned classical Greek, which only contained 22 letters. What are the two additional letters in modern Greek?
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« Reply #7 on: March 13, 2010, 11:32:07 PM »

I can help with Greek.
How much do you know? Do you know the alphabet? Is it mainly vocabulary & grammar you need help with?

I don't even know the alphabet in greek
is it larger than the american one?
You mean, the English one? Wink
Its shorter by 2 letters.
Oh? I learned classical Greek, which only contained 22 letters. What are the two additional letters in modern Greek?

Um...

Α Β Γ Δ Ε Ζ Η Θ Ι Κ Λ Μ Ν Ξ Ο Π Ρ Σ Τ Υ Φ Χ Ψ Ω

That's 24. There used to be the Digamma (Ϝ), but that fell out of use before the Classical era.
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« Reply #8 on: March 13, 2010, 11:43:00 PM »

So are they aligned correctly?
is the F seriously shaped as a Z?
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« Reply #9 on: March 13, 2010, 11:47:29 PM »

So are they aligned correctly?
is the F seriously shaped as a Z?
No. The Z is "Zeta" and is the "z" sound.
The "F" is Φ (21st letter).
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« Reply #10 on: March 14, 2010, 12:06:09 AM »

Here is a website where you can learn the name an pronunciation of each letter and the blended letters (digraphs) which form the dipthongs:
http://www.foundalis.com/lan/grkalpha.htm
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« Reply #11 on: March 15, 2010, 05:05:52 PM »

I can help with Greek.
How much do you know? Do you know the alphabet? Is it mainly vocabulary & grammar you need help with?

I don't even know the alphabet in greek
is it larger than the american one?
You mean, the English one? Wink
Its shorter by 2 letters.
Oh? I learned classical Greek, which only contained 22 letters. What are the two additional letters in modern Greek?

Um...

Α Β Γ Δ Ε Ζ Η Θ Ι Κ Λ Μ Ν Ξ Ο Π Ρ Σ Τ Υ Φ Χ Ψ Ω

That's 24. There used to be the Digamma (Ϝ), but that fell out of use before the Classical era.
You're right; I miscounted.
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« Reply #12 on: March 16, 2010, 12:08:54 AM »

How's it possible to miscount if you learned classical Greek? That's like one of the first things you learn with just about any language. A Professor Emeritus should know this!
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« Reply #13 on: March 16, 2010, 01:17:58 AM »

I can help with Greek.
How much do you know? Do you know the alphabet? Is it mainly vocabulary & grammar you need help with?

I don't even know the alphabet in greek
is it larger than the american one?
You mean, the English one? Wink
Its shorter by 2 letters.
Oh? I learned classical Greek, which only contained 22 letters. What are the two additional letters in modern Greek?

Um...

Α Β Γ Δ Ε Ζ Η Θ Ι Κ Λ Μ Ν Ξ Ο Π Ρ Σ Τ Υ Φ Χ Ψ Ω

That's 24. There used to be the Digamma (Ϝ), but that fell out of use before the Classical era.
You're right; I miscounted.

*chuckles* I hate it when I do that sort of thing. Smiley
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