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Re: Some Rastafarians ARE Orthodox Christians
« Reply #45 on: November 13, 2010, 02:16:31 PM »
Do the Rastafarians that are Orthodox usually give up marijuana?  (Sorry if that is a silly or offensive question.  I don't know much about Rastafarians or marijuana.  About 15 years ago I thought I talked to an evil spirit while I was under the influence of marijuana and other drugs that I can't remember.  It scared me after I sobered-up, because it seemed like I came close to worshiping or praying to it.  So that is the reason for my curiosity.)
Maybe the "other drugs" were responsible for your bad experience, and not the ganja?
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Re: Some Rastafarians ARE Orthodox Christians
« Reply #46 on: November 13, 2010, 03:08:29 PM »
Do the Rastafarians that are Orthodox usually give up marijuana?  (Sorry if that is a silly or offensive question.  I don't know much about Rastafarians or marijuana.  About 15 years ago I thought I talked to an evil spirit while I was under the influence of marijuana and other drugs that I can't remember.  It scared me after I sobered-up, because it seemed like I came close to worshiping or praying to it.  So that is the reason for my curiosity.)


It depends on the individual. The Church has always frowned upon the usage of Marijuana, but has wisely not made this issue a deal breaker in evangelizing Rastas. In Jamaica, some Rastas will smoke Ganja outside of the Church gates, but never within the Church property. Rastas who have entered into the Tewahedo Faith respect the Church and her Teachings, and do not elevate their individual customs above the Teachings and Traditions of the Church. In areas where the usage of Ganja is legal, a Priest may perhaps "allow" it, but I doubt if any Priest would give their blessing to the use of Ganja. From what I know, most Rastas who have converted to the Tewahedo Faith and continue to use Ganja do not ask their Priest about it, for they know that they will most likely be encouraged to stop.  

For the record, I do not use marijuana, altghough I support its legalization. However, whether legal or illegal, I would encourage all people to follow the Teachings of the Church and the counsel of their Priests when considering its usage.


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Re: Some Rastafarians ARE Orthodox Christians
« Reply #47 on: November 13, 2010, 04:58:50 PM »
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The question of ganja is thorny. The archbishop maintains that it is the main reason his church is seen as a Rasta church and attracts few non-Rastafarians adherents from the Caribbean. He claims that most people cling to old-time fears of Rastas which are somehow symbolized by the ganja smoking. "There are so many people here in New York," he laments. "They want to come into our church. But they see them (Rastas) around the church, in the area, smoking. So it's embarrassing and they don't want to come." A Church Sister, Terseta, agrees that the fear has history. "Lots of people don't come here (to the New York church, in the Bronx)," she says, "because they scared of Rasta. Like they do in the island, too." It comes, she avers, from "the beginning" when Rastas essentially devolved out of the Maroons. "The Maroons was the original Rasta people", and folks, black and white, were afraid of them.

The Archbishop is firm about expelling those Rastas who, by their unabated and flagrant ganja smoking, disturb and intimidate "those people who are trying to work for their own salvation." Since ganja is illegal, he cannot condone its use. "As long as it is illegal, we do not, we can not agree." he explains. "But we are not in control of what people do in their own houses.
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Re: Some Rastafarians ARE Orthodox Christians
« Reply #48 on: July 07, 2012, 02:17:06 PM »
Hmmmm...how did Orthodox clergy deal with prohibition and parishoners who ignored that law?

What about the canons on curling  hair? 
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Re: Some Rastafarians ARE Orthodox Christians
« Reply #49 on: July 07, 2012, 02:29:08 PM »
It is absolutely false to say the Orthodox Church has always frowned on the usage of mariuijna.  One of the great Russian Saints of the 18th century was an expert cultivator of it...and frequently ran naked in the woods....But some Saints do odd things  .... l dont mean to imply encouragement or disvouragement for its usage.   I believe God gives everyone the right of self medication within the power and will of their conscience... Know thyself...and seek wisdom...a fool with his heart are soon departed.
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Re: Some Rastafarians ARE Orthodox Christians
« Reply #50 on: July 07, 2012, 03:46:53 PM »
That's fine, but I choose to get dressed before I go to the park.  :)
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Re: Some Rastafarians ARE Orthodox Christians
« Reply #51 on: July 07, 2012, 08:54:36 PM »
have not seen it or read the thread yet..........BUT. . . . . . . Does this mean its ok to smoke weed now ;D
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Re: Some Rastafarians ARE Orthodox Christians
« Reply #52 on: July 10, 2012, 11:52:14 AM »
It is absolutely false to say the Orthodox Church has always frowned on the usage of mariuijna.  One of the great Russian Saints of the 18th century was an expert cultivator of it...and frequently ran naked in the woods...

Could you elaborate?
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Re: Some Rastafarians ARE Orthodox Christians
« Reply #53 on: July 10, 2012, 11:54:07 AM »
It is absolutely false to say the Orthodox Church has always frowned on the usage of mariuijna.  One of the great Russian Saints of the 18th century was an expert cultivator of it...and frequently ran naked in the woods...

Could you elaborate?

Yeah, I'm curious too... seems very unlikely...

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Re: Some Rastafarians ARE Orthodox Christians
« Reply #54 on: July 10, 2012, 01:00:25 PM »
You can grow pot in Russia?

Oh man, "In Mother Russia" jokes are on the way....

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Re: Some Rastafarians ARE Orthodox Christians
« Reply #55 on: July 17, 2012, 02:11:48 AM »
You can grow pot in Russia?

Oh man, "In Mother Russia" jokes are on the way....

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Russian pot is a little different. Instead of giving you a high, it causes you extreme suffering, which is more spiritually pleasurable.

It's also horseradish.
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Re: Some Rastafarians ARE Orthodox Christians
« Reply #56 on: July 17, 2012, 06:57:41 AM »
You can grow pot in Russia?

Oh man, "In Mother Russia" jokes are on the way....

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Russian pot is a little different. Instead of giving you a high, it causes you extreme suffering, which is more spiritually pleasurable.

It's also horseradish.
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Re: Some Rastafarians ARE Orthodox Christians
« Reply #57 on: July 18, 2012, 03:00:44 AM »
Why is this thread tagged as "false ecumenism"?

If you get down and you quarrel every day,
You're saying prayers to the devils, I say.
Why not help one another on the way?
Make it much easier.
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Re: Some Rastafarians ARE Orthodox Christians
« Reply #58 on: July 18, 2012, 03:19:48 AM »
Why is this thread tagged as "false ecumenism"?

If you get down and you quarrel every day,
You're saying prayers to the devils, I say.
Why not help one another on the way?
Make it much easier.

Positive vibration!  ;)



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