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Offline Tzimis

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Time for a new calendar or back to the old?
« on: March 02, 2010, 06:25:14 PM »
At this rate we should be back to the julian calendar in 4000 thousand years or so. What do you all say?

http://news.yahoo.com/s/space/20100302/sc_space/chileearthquakemayhaveshorteneddaysonearth
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Re: Time for a new calendar or back to the old?
« Reply #1 on: March 02, 2010, 07:34:32 PM »
At this rate we should be back to the julian calendar in 4000 thousand years or so. What do you all say?

http://news.yahoo.com/s/space/20100302/sc_space/chileearthquakemayhaveshorteneddaysonearth
Somehow, I would never quite have thought of putting that kind of spin on this story.
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Re: Time for a new calendar or back to the old?
« Reply #2 on: March 03, 2010, 09:29:10 AM »
Perhaps someone will post when that happens. LOL

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Re: Time for a new calendar or back to the old?
« Reply #3 on: March 03, 2010, 11:10:45 AM »
I was just noticing how Pascha this year comes on the date is should, the real Sunday after the real Paschal full moon (the one we see in the sky) after the real Equinox (when the real day is equal to the real night).  But the Paschal full moon is too early according to the Julian calendar, so why aren't we having Pascha next month?

Just curious: I prefer when we celebrate Pascha on terra firma with the astronomical equinox and the celestial satellite of said terra firma.
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Re: Time for a new calendar or back to the old?
« Reply #4 on: March 03, 2010, 12:46:15 PM »
At this rate we should be back to the julian calendar in 4000 thousand years or so. What do you all say?

http://news.yahoo.com/s/space/20100302/sc_space/chileearthquakemayhaveshorteneddaysonearth
Somehow, I would never quite have thought of putting that kind of spin on this story.

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Re: Time for a new calendar or back to the old?
« Reply #5 on: March 03, 2010, 01:31:19 PM »
I was just noticing how Pascha this year comes on the date is should, the real Sunday after the real Paschal full moon (the one we see in the sky) after the real Equinox (when the real day is equal to the real night).  But the Paschal full moon is too early according to the Julian calendar, so why aren't we having Pascha next month?

Just curious: I prefer when we celebrate Pascha on terra firma with the astronomical equinox and the celestial satellite of said terra firma.
I think what you'll find is that the date of Pascha is determined from arithmetic (?) tables rather than strict astronomical observances. Full moons and other such things actually happen on two dates on planet Earth. For example, here at my home (EST) I have just finished lunch on Wednesday. Our friends in New Zealand are getting out of bed on Thursday morning. So what day is it now?

So you see, the full moon may be early where you live, but very much on time somewhere else in the world.

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Re: Time for a new calendar or back to the old?
« Reply #6 on: March 03, 2010, 02:12:15 PM »
At this rate we should be back to the julian calendar in 4000 thousand years or so. What do you all say?

http://news.yahoo.com/s/space/20100302/sc_space/chileearthquakemayhaveshorteneddaysonearth

Well, our church is on the old Julian calendar already.  But, if you want to get back to me in 4,000 years, I'll be happy to discuss this with you.   ;D
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Re: Time for a new calendar or back to the old?
« Reply #7 on: March 03, 2010, 02:32:38 PM »
I was just noticing how Pascha this year comes on the date is should, the real Sunday after the real Paschal full moon (the one we see in the sky) after the real Equinox (when the real day is equal to the real night).  But the Paschal full moon is too early according to the Julian calendar, so why aren't we having Pascha next month?

Just curious: I prefer when we celebrate Pascha on terra firma with the astronomical equinox and the celestial satellite of said terra firma.
I think what you'll find is that the date of Pascha is determined from arithmetic (?) tables rather than strict astronomical observances. Full moons and other such things actually happen on two dates on planet Earth. For example, here at my home (EST) I have just finished lunch on Wednesday. Our friends in New Zealand are getting out of bed on Thursday morning. So what day is it now?

So you see, the full moon may be early where you live, but very much on time somewhere else in the world.

Yes, I'm aware of that.  Not that it would make a difference this year, which is nice. That is, according to the calendar as reformed by Milankuvic.  I don't understand how the Julian calendar got the right date this year, unless its computation is farther off then I hereto suspected.
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Re: Time for a new calendar or back to the old?
« Reply #8 on: March 04, 2010, 02:37:03 PM »
Sorry I was a little premature as it seems to have shifted back into place.http://www.cnn.com/2010/WORLD/americas/03/03/taiwan.quake/index.html
I'm certain that heathens aren't safe from whatever Pat Robertson says causes earthquakes though. ;D
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Re: Time for a new calendar or back to the old?
« Reply #9 on: March 04, 2010, 02:57:56 PM »
Sorry I was a little premature as it seems to have shifted back into place.http://www.cnn.com/2010/WORLD/americas/03/03/taiwan.quake/index.html
Nah, Taiwan is much closer to the equator than the epicenter of the Chilean earthquake, and the Taiwanese earthquake was much weaker.  What we would need to get the earth back in place is another monster quake in Alaska, such as they often get there.  (The strongest earthquake ever recorded may have been in Chile, but the second strongest was in Alaska.)
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Re: Time for a new calendar or back to the old?
« Reply #10 on: March 04, 2010, 03:03:52 PM »
I hope that's not a prediction Peter.  :laugh:
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Re: Time for a new calendar or back to the old?
« Reply #11 on: March 04, 2010, 04:39:08 PM »
I hope that's not a prediction Peter.  :laugh:
Earthquakes are just as much a way of life for Alaskans as they are for Chileans.  For instance, since 1899, Alaska got hit by eight earthquakes of magnitude 8.0 or greater, to include the 9.2 monster in 1964 that registered as the second strongest ever recorded anywhere in the world.  (source:  http://earthquake.usgs.gov/earthquakes/states/alaska/history.php)  The same web page also states that Alaska gets more earthquakes per year than the other 49 U.S. states combined, which is saying something when you consider how many earthquakes California gets.
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