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Re: Polka Mass
« Reply #45 on: September 23, 2016, 03:47:24 AM »
I'm a Catholic, and although I have heard of Polka Masses, I don't see them as appropiate for worship. To me, the music is a major part of the service, and sacred music seems to add a "dimension" to my worship.

I wouldn't mind having a Polka music time after Mass though.

Heck yeah.  I love a good polka, or (being Arabic) dabke after a Liturgy.  But I agree, it's not really worship music, and music  plays a major role in worship.  There is a "melody to faith", to paraphrase Fr. Schmemann.
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Re: Polka Mass
« Reply #46 on: September 23, 2016, 02:45:54 PM »
While some genres of XIX century secular music (Russian operas) are ok in worship while others (polka) are not?
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Re: Polka Mass
« Reply #47 on: September 23, 2016, 02:51:21 PM »
While some genres of XIX century secular music (Russian operas) are ok in worship while others (polka) are not?
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Re: Polka Mass
« Reply #48 on: September 23, 2016, 02:58:15 PM »
While some genres of XIX century secular music (Russian operas) are ok in worship while others (polka) are not?
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I misstyped. "Why" was supposed to be there.
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Re: Polka Mass
« Reply #49 on: September 23, 2016, 03:02:22 PM »
Do people actually use secular musications like that of Tchaikovsky in worship?
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Re: Polka Mass
« Reply #50 on: September 23, 2016, 03:04:03 PM »
Do people actually use secular musications like that of Tchaikovsky in worship?

Unfortunately, yes.
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Re: Polka Mass
« Reply #51 on: September 23, 2016, 03:06:13 PM »
Do people actually use secular musications like that of Tchaikovsky in worship?

but I don't understand the problem with either of the others.
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Re: Polka Mass
« Reply #52 on: September 23, 2016, 03:30:02 PM »
I didn't see the problem because I thought you were talking about this. I see no problem with that music being written and executed, I actually enjoy it, but it's not appropriate for liturgy. It's secular.
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Re: Polka Mass
« Reply #53 on: September 23, 2016, 04:35:55 PM »
What's the purpose of music in liturgy?
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Re: Polka Mass
« Reply #54 on: September 23, 2016, 05:50:36 PM »
Do people actually use secular musications like that of Tchaikovsky in worship?

Unfortunately, yes.
Didn't Tchaikovsky write music for the Divine Liturgy that was used in Russia?
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Re: Polka Mass
« Reply #55 on: September 23, 2016, 06:02:47 PM »
Do people actually use secular musications like that of Tchaikovsky in worship?

Unfortunately, yes.
Didn't Tchaikovsky write music for the Divine Liturgy that was used in Russia?

His setting is a perennial hit in the concert hall, but I'm not sure it was ever used in worship.
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Re: Polka Mass
« Reply #56 on: September 23, 2016, 06:14:16 PM »
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U0iX7lfp1qc

That I hear in churches. Not often, but I recognize it.
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Re: Polka Mass
« Reply #57 on: September 26, 2016, 11:19:58 AM »
Do people actually use secular musications like that of Tchaikovsky in worship?

Unfortunately, yes.

Why unfortunately? I wish I can locate the source, but I once read that in Antioch some of the melodies came from local folk songs. Also, some of the most sublime (in the sense of aiding and abetting true worship) melodies are found in "secular musications" like those from Bortniansky (Cherubic Hymn No.7) and Kedrov (Lord's Prayer).

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Re: Polka Mass
« Reply #58 on: September 26, 2016, 11:36:38 AM »
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U0iX7lfp1qc

That I hear in churches. Not often, but I recognize it.
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Do people actually use secular musications like that of Tchaikovsky in worship?

Unfortunately, yes.

Why unfortunately? I wish I can locate the source, but I once read that in Antioch some of the melodies came from local folk songs. Also, some of the most sublime (in the sense of aiding and abetting true worship) melodies are found in "secular musications" like those from Bortniansky (Cherubic Hymn No.7) and Kedrov (Lord's Prayer).
In Serbian Church some melodies are also based on folk melodies, or at least inspirated a bit by them. But I see a difference between simple folk melody put into traditional system of Octoechos and a concierto made of Church music and put into Liturgy or other services.
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