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« on: February 24, 2010, 11:30:19 PM »

What am I to do if I feel drawn to the Oriental Orthodox faith, and believe that it is the only tradition that has purity in doctrinal continuity, but I do not feel drawn to any of the inherently foreign and ethnic churches that do not yet seem interested in catering to "Americans" (like some EO churches are now) and seem to be the sole OO presence in my area?
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« Reply #1 on: February 24, 2010, 11:37:51 PM »

Pray.  Undecided
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« Reply #2 on: February 25, 2010, 12:19:03 AM »

The Ethiopian Orthodox Tewahedo Church will welcome you gladly my brother! His Majesty Haile Selassie sent Abuna Yesehaq to the West in order to teach us the true Faith. So you will be welcomed by our Church.

I rejoice to hear that you are coming close to embracing our Tewahedo Faith. My prayers are with you.

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« Reply #3 on: February 25, 2010, 01:01:05 AM »

The Ethiopan Tewahedo Church is Awesome....the Church blessed with the Holy Ark!!
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« Reply #4 on: February 25, 2010, 01:05:37 AM »

Just give it time.  You may come to like the ethnic expressions of the OO Churches in your area.  (We have the best food, after all.)  Or you may be able to overcome your reservations about Chalcedon and return to the EO.  I've already expressed my opinion that you are in good hands either way. 
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« Reply #5 on: February 25, 2010, 03:46:20 AM »

Pray that they would want to cater to Western Americans more and more.

Keep in contact with all of the priests.

Visit from time to time so that it is known that you are serious.

Many of us pray for you and with you.

I know the Coptic Orthodox Church has just opened two new English language only missions in the US. That doesn't help where you are, and it may never help, but there is a sea-change slowly taking place.

Please join the Coptic Evangelism in North America <Coptic-Evangelism-In-North-America@googlegroups.com> Google group and introduce yourself there. I am finding more and more American and Canadian Coptic Orthodox who are deeply committed to Evangelism and Outrreach.

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« Reply #6 on: February 25, 2010, 08:57:20 AM »

While I obviously do not agree with your conclusions regarding the doctrinal purity of the EO and your reasons for leaving, I would say that Truth is of far greater importance than feeling comfortable. It can be tough initially, but many of us here have done it. If you truly believe that the OO alone are the true Church of Christ, and that the EO are heretics with an invalid Eucharist, then there really is no excuse for you not to join an OO church (although waiting a while to make sure you don't rush into anything is advisable).

Coptic churches tend have great emphasis on involving the youth, who often speak very poor Arabic, and so you often get English Liturgies, English Tasbeha, English Bible studies, etc. even if it's an exclusively Egyptian parish with little focus on wider mission.
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« Reply #7 on: February 25, 2010, 02:28:45 PM »

What am I to do if I feel drawn to the Oriental Orthodox faith, and believe that it is the only tradition that has purity in doctrinal continuity, but I do not feel drawn to any of the inherently foreign and ethnic churches that do not yet seem interested in catering to "Americans" (like some EO churches are now) and seem to be the sole OO presence in my area?

It will depend to a great extent as to how much "catering" you expect. If it is simply a matter of English in the Liturgy, an English sermon on Sunday, and bi-lingual activities, you can already get that in most places, certainly in the Coptic Church. But if you expect a Church which is "American" in culture, language and outlook, well that's unlikely - nor is it desirable in my opinion. Think about why you are attracted to the OO, and consider how it would be without the influence of the "old country".
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« Reply #8 on: February 25, 2010, 06:06:59 PM »

and that the EO are heretics with an invalid Eucharist,

Though this is off topic, I feel it important to address this point. I have never said here that I believe that the beliefs of the EO are currently heretical. I recently posted a thread in the EO/OO private forum where I established that there are essentially three schools of thought with respect to the status of our respective churches, 1st that at one point the other side compromised purity of orthodox doctrine and has continued to some degree heretical since, 2nd that at one point doctrinal purity was compromised but that it has since been "fixed", and 3rd that the other side has always been purely orthodox. I know that with respect to the EO that I do not side with the third school, but I have also never indicated that I side with the first school. Actually, I am probably most inclined to the second. So no, I wouldn't say that the EO are heretics. Just that because of Chalcedon, which I believe was not purely orthodox, that you are lacking consistent doctrinal continuity.
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« Reply #9 on: February 26, 2010, 09:30:47 PM »

When I went to a Coptic church, the people were extremely welcoming. They all made the effort to make me feel welcome. Copts and Ethiopians are very nice people from my experience.
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