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« on: December 31, 2003, 03:30:44 PM » |
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Hiya
I'm researching for an article. Of course I know the work of Fr John Romanides of blessed memory, but what is the EO opinion of his work? Is he a reputable theologian or was his work eclectic and idiosyncratic?
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« Reply #1 on: January 01, 2004, 11:19:11 AM » |
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Well?
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« Reply #2 on: January 01, 2004, 11:36:22 AM » |
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Sub- deacon Peter - give them a chance - let them sleep off the excesses and then you might get a reply  |
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« Reply #3 on: January 01, 2004, 12:05:06 PM » |
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I've been up since 10 am! Driven to Stansted airport to drop my sister-in-law off and then driven home.
Even been playing on the younger kids new GameCube for a while.
How much longer do I need to wait. I'll be getting some Caffrey's out soon and won't be in a clearp-headed enough state to read their posts.
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« Reply #4 on: January 01, 2004, 12:15:50 PM » |
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argh - it's that time difference thing again  How much longer do I need to wait. I'll be getting some Caffrey's out soon and won't be in a clearp-headed enough state to read their posts. Did you say clearp ?? You've been at it again - Ive just had sherry , a nice bottle of wine [ well 2 of us sharing it ] and some absolutely fantastic venison |
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« Reply #5 on: January 01, 2004, 12:25:30 PM » |
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Where did you get the venison from? Is it a fresh source? Are you in the countryside?
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« Reply #6 on: January 01, 2004, 01:08:17 PM » |
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http://www.carmichael.co.uk/That's my source, first found them at our local Farmers Market - which thanks to a most farseeing Local Council has had to close down. I can get there on the way back from where I go Carriage driving - not far from Dumfries Their stuff is good - I normally buy Venison Burgers and sirloin steaks. This time I also got some lamb and beef from them as well - and if it is as good as the venison [ which was cooked in Green Ginger wine , ginger and garlic and cream - mmmmmmmmmm ] I'll try and get most of my meat from them.
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« Reply #7 on: January 01, 2004, 02:43:45 PM » |
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Hiya
I'm researching for an article. Of course I know the work of Fr John Romanides of blessed memory, but what is the EO opinion of his work? Is he a reputable theologian or was his work eclectic and idiosyncratic?
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OK...Fr. John Romanides was a very conservative, ultra Orthodox theologian, and his work should definitely be revisited. Clear enough even with the Caffrey's, Sub-Deacon Peter? |
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« Reply #8 on: January 01, 2004, 03:28:39 PM » |
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Well, there is some abiguity in your post Vicki, but I have always enjoyed Fr John's work, not always agreed with everything, but if he is considered a conservative Orthodox theologian by his own communion then I may perhaps be allowed to reference his work as having a measure of authority.
Thanks
Anyone else with a comment?
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« Reply #9 on: January 01, 2004, 03:31:17 PM » |
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P'raps the Caffrey's created some ambiguity in your question, Sub-Deacon Peter? :bounce:
Is there something SPECIFIC you would like to know....then I could go ferret it out for you....
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« Reply #10 on: January 01, 2004, 03:50:12 PM » |
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No, no. The thing is that Fr John Romanides has a very balanced view of Church history and rejects the polemical approach which tends to ignore anything that gets in the way of whatever is the received understanding. Such a polemical approach can be found in all groups, not only in respect of Church History.
There are theologians in my own communion who also have a balanced view.
Such a balanced view requires a measure of self-reflection on behalf of ones communion and the received history, and it requires a degree of self-criticism. Fr John Romanides, and Fr V.C. Samuel from my own communion, have such a balanced and refelective perspective.
I am quite able, I believe, to reflect on the understanding of Church History which my own communion presents, but it is not always so easy to find members of the Eastern Orthodox communion who are willing to be equally self-critical. I do know quite a few and they are a real blessing in terms of developing my own understanding of things and in thinking through various opportunities that there may be for the complete reconciliation of our communions.
I am glad that you consider Fr John Romanides conservative and Orthodox because his most interesting and self-reflective writings about the Church History are very important and fill me with hope.
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« Reply #11 on: January 01, 2004, 03:54:52 PM » |
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I understand now....do indeed use his writings.
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