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« on: February 18, 2010, 02:31:09 AM »

I am from Romania living here in US. I am Orthodox and was lately told by fundamental Baptist I will go to hell if I don't convert. My question is why I need to change religion for others. Also I have been bothered by this other group Mormons who pressure me and they wear odd underwear and have many wives.
Why is it in the US it is so difficult to be what we are, who we are, and to live as we are?
I was told this place was freedom but religious ones ring my doorbell and bother me.
Why do I get no peace here because of those on the doorbell?
I am begin to get very frustrated.
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« Reply #1 on: February 18, 2010, 02:34:30 AM »

Why is it in the US it is so difficult to be what we are, who we are, and to live as we are?

Welcome to the forum.  The reason you can get no peace is because America is a religious free-market, and anything goes here (not that I can complain too loudly, as I've been doing some shopping myself Wink).

All that you can do is pray more and try to learn more about your faith to fight off pernicious heresies.
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« Reply #2 on: February 18, 2010, 02:51:22 AM »

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Also I have been bothered by this other group Mormons who pressure me and they wear odd underwear and have many wives.

You DARE question the holy underwear?  Grin
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« Reply #3 on: February 18, 2010, 03:03:55 AM »

I am from Romania living here in US. I am Orthodox and was lately told by fundamental Baptist I will go to hell if I don't convert. My question is why I need to change religion for others. Also I have been bothered by this other group Mormons who pressure me and they wear odd underwear and have many wives.
Why is it in the US it is so difficult to be what we are, who we are, and to live as we are?
I was told this place was freedom but religious ones ring my doorbell and bother me.
Why do I get no peace here because of those on the doorbell?
I am begin to get very frustrated.
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Welcome to America!  Grin

What you find frustrating about this country is what I actually love about this country! In order to survive in some regions of this country, you have to know what you believe and why. So now is a good time to study up, pray up, and prepare yourself .........for what you find as being  frustrating is here to stay.

It's not going anywhere, and so, if you don't like being seen as red meat......then study up......educate yourself about the Faith. It will do you good in the long run..........either that or stay in the house and Church all day......with no contact with the outside world.

America is a dog eat dog / survival of the fittest type of place.....and so....if you wanna survive....you gotta stay fit.






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« Reply #4 on: February 18, 2010, 03:36:13 AM »

Oh please do not be angry with me but I am firm in belief because love of God has always been with me. I am wondering why people need to change me, the Mormons they are difficult. These other people think because I have a accent and difficulty sometimes with words think I am dumb. I am not dumb. I know who I am and I know my path. My path is religion and love and I must not ever deviate. I want to be a missionary and is why I am in seminary now. But my Orthodox is coming through in every way and sometimes other student in the seminary make fun of me.
Why here in the US do they call us Jews and unfaithful? I was walking my dog and punched in face and they hit my dog. I thought this was a place of freedom I guess not, I hurt, and we have to stay inside now.
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« Reply #5 on: February 18, 2010, 03:57:08 AM »

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You DARE question the holy underwear?  Grin

You should see mine. Then you would understand why we are nervous about nuclear power plants.
Every time I put on a t-shirt FEMA gets an alert, along with our local fire department.
Know what I mean? LOL!
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« Reply #6 on: February 18, 2010, 04:20:33 AM »

Try this.....

YOU, standing in the doorway:  Welcome! Welcome!  My Bible told me you would come.


MORMONS, looking surprised:  It did?!   Where in the Bible did it tell you we are coming?

YOU:  It says in the Bible - in the last days will come many false prophets!

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« Reply #7 on: February 18, 2010, 04:41:51 AM »

Oh please do not be angry with me but I am firm in belief because love of God has always been with me. I am wondering why people need to change me, the Mormons they are difficult. These other people think because I have a accent and difficulty sometimes with words think I am dumb. I am not dumb. I know who I am and I know my path. My path is religion and love and I must not ever deviate. I want to be a missionary and is why I am in seminary now. But my Orthodox is coming through in every way and sometimes other student in the seminary make fun of me.
Why here in the US do they call us Jews and unfaithful? I was walking my dog and punched in face and they hit my dog. I thought this was a place of freedom I guess not, I hurt, and we have to stay inside now.
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That's Horrible!! Do they really do that with non Anglo-Saxon immigrants? Shocked  Sad
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« Reply #8 on: February 18, 2010, 08:57:03 AM »

I am from Romania living here in US. I am Orthodox and was lately told by fundamental Baptist I will go to hell if I don't convert.

They would tell you that in Romania too.  I knew an Orthodox priest at the Romanian Patriarchate here in Chicago: he had gone as a missionary to Romania.  As a good Baptist, we was going to warn the Orthodox Romanians of going to hell.  Things, obviously, didn't go as he had planned.

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« Reply #9 on: February 18, 2010, 09:55:13 AM »

Try this.....

YOU, standing in the doorway:  Welcome! Welcome!  My Bible told me you would come.


MORMONS, looking surprised:  It did?!   Where in the Bible did it tell you we are coming?

YOU:  It says in the Bible - in the last days will come many false prophets!

 laugh Smiley Cheesy

I have to remember that one!
Excellent!

Tatia, welcome to the forum.

Where is it that you live in the U.S, that you are finding such negativity towards Orthodoxy. 
It's very sad.

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« Reply #10 on: February 18, 2010, 10:07:00 AM »

I've always had trouble with fundamental Christians and the Jehovah Witnesses, who always keep harping on the need for us to come over to their faith.  And always saying, "I know I'm saved, but are you?"  Funny, the only group that has left me in peace after I told them I was instructed by my Spiritual Father to have no contact with them was the Hare Krishna.  Odd that pagans would be more understanding and understand an "obedience" than other Christians.  As an aside, I was once with a friend, when I was a Franciscan, we were out having a burger and discussing the music for an upcoming liturgy, when 2 young people came up and asked us if we found Jesus.  My friend wanted to answer, but I held him back and I said, "Found Him?  I never lost Him."  Spaced them out and they left us in peace.  lol
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« Reply #11 on: February 18, 2010, 03:18:22 PM »

Oh please do not be angry with me but I am firm in belief because love of God has always been with me. I am wondering why people need to change me, the Mormons they are difficult. These other people think because I have a accent and difficulty sometimes with words think I am dumb. I am not dumb. I know who I am and I know my path. My path is religion and love and I must not ever deviate. I want to be a missionary and is why I am in seminary now. But my Orthodox is coming through in every way and sometimes other student in the seminary make fun of me.
Why here in the US do they call us Jews and unfaithful? I was walking my dog and punched in face and they hit my dog. I thought this was a place of freedom I guess not, I hurt, and we have to stay inside now.
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You want to be a missionary and preach the Gospel to those who have never heard it.  Mormons and JW's and Fundamentalists are merely driven by the same missionary zeal we deem so praiseworthy among the Orthodox.  They believe the fullness of truth has been revealed to them, and they want to share it with us so we may be saved.  The only difference between them and us is that we know that what they teach is heretical.  But can we blame them for their missionary zeal to preach what they believe is the truth?  If only more Orthodox were like that.

Welcome to the forum, Tatia. Smiley
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« Reply #12 on: March 18, 2010, 10:52:32 PM »

You're in the United States, where 98% of the population feel like it's Protestant. Ignore them.
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« Reply #13 on: March 19, 2010, 12:55:29 AM »

I was walking my dog and punched in face and they hit my dog.

That is absolutely horrific.  What part of the country are you living in? 

Just so you know such actions are illegal in this country and you are within your rights to call the police on your attackers.  As to whether or not the police will do anything, well, I am afraid that depends.

I am afraid such narrow-mindedness is a problem in a lot of places, not just this country.  I remember as a child living in England when the next door neighbors' children would assault me just for having an American accent.  Still, one can almost excuse such behavior in children, but when it's adults it is another matter entirely.

I am saddened to hear you are having such problems as that, and yet joyous that your first complaint was about the religious problems.  Yes, our homegrown crop of fundamentalists can get rather pushy, although some do tend to leave you alone if you show yourself strong in your convictions.  With Mormons and Jehovah's Witnesses the best tactic is actually to invite them in and try to convert them!  It rarely works in that regard, but a pleasant side effect is that once you show yourself strong in belief they rarely come back (it's actually against their rules: their churches are afraid to lose the flock and will mark you down on a "do not call list").

The Baptists will be a constant problem.  But there is hope for them yet (I used to be one).
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