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« on: February 13, 2010, 07:02:53 PM »

I've seen icons of Moses receiving the ten commandment tablets on the mountain, but has anyone ever seen an icon that includes a detailed portrayal of the Hebrews worshiping the Golden Calf?

... and if so, do you have a link?


Any help is much appreciated.  Smiley

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« Reply #1 on: February 13, 2010, 07:50:45 PM »

You wouldn't want to go tipping off people as to the similarity with icons, now would you?  Wink
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« Reply #2 on: February 13, 2010, 08:18:55 PM »

You wouldn't want to go tipping off people as to the similarity with icons, now would you?  Wink
LOL.  No, I've seen one somewhere.

Here's one from an ancient Jewish synagogue c. 245:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/1b/Dura_Europos_fresco_worshipping_gold_calf.jpg
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« Reply #3 on: February 13, 2010, 09:42:00 PM »

You wouldn't want to go tipping off people as to the similarity with icons, now would you?  Wink


Grin  Yeah, it didn't take me very much time researching before I realized that most people who question iconography point to the worship of the Golden Calf as being synonymous with reverence for Christian icons.  I guess I'm just so familiar/comfortable with icons that I never even thought to try and make that (inaccurate) connection.

However, this unrelated issue (at least to me) has unfortunately made my research a little more difficult than usual.
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« Reply #4 on: February 13, 2010, 10:16:57 PM »

You wouldn't want to go tipping off people as to the similarity with icons, now would you?  Wink
LOL.  No, I've seen one somewhere.

Here's one from an ancient Jewish synagogue c. 245:

Yeah, I found that one, and I was really glad... but unfortunately it lacks the direct clarity I'm looking for:
I want it to be blatantly clear to anyone who is even remotely familiar with this story to recognize what they're looking at without any explanation.

Thank you anyway, I appreciate your help.







Something along these lines (but more iconographic and less Sunday-school looking)






If this one included the bottom half it would be great
(too bad its from an article about architecture)






The right elements, but obviously too Renaissance style.
However, I really like the iconic placement of the ray of light from heaven, the commandments, and the calf all being in alignment (but not necessarily in agreement).





Close, but a little too similar to Renaissance style (and not enough emphasis on the Golden Calf)






So far, the first one (Sunday school version) is the closest thing I've found for what I need.  I might have to settle for that one,
but I really wanted to find an iconographic version if possible.

Actually, Moses doesn't even need to be present in the icon at all... the main focus for my project is the Golden Calf.

+St Moses please pray to God for us
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« Reply #5 on: February 13, 2010, 10:24:13 PM »

The last icon I would actually say is closer to Orthodox iconography than Renaissance style, even if it comes from the West. The artist was obviously working in the vein of Byzantine iconography.
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« Reply #6 on: February 13, 2010, 11:18:09 PM »

LOL... why do you want an icon of the golden calf??
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« Reply #7 on: February 13, 2010, 11:35:35 PM »

LOL... why do you want an icon of the golden calf??

To offer it incense, jewelry and a blood sacrifice, of course!  Cheesy
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« Reply #8 on: February 14, 2010, 12:13:45 AM »

Actually, Moses doesn't even need to be present in the icon at all... the main focus for my project is the Golden Calf.

LOL.  That Moses wasn't present was why there was a Golden Calf.

I can swear though that I've seen an icon of the event, from Mt. Athos IIRC.
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« Reply #9 on: February 14, 2010, 02:36:08 AM »

An icon which attracts negative energy? No thank you.
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« Reply #10 on: February 17, 2010, 08:12:36 PM »

LOL... why do you want an icon of the golden calf??

LOL... why do you want an icon of the golden calf??

To offer it incense, jewelry and a blood sacrifice, of course!  Cheesy

An icon which attracts negative energy? No thank you.


It would be really nice if people wouldn't assume that I want an iconic depiction of something evil so as to give it reverence.  Icons, apart from reverence, are also meant to teach us lessons about evil.




You think this icon is for veneration?  Or perhaps to teach us something?
Actually, how is this icon any different from what was happening spiritually as the Hebrews were worshiping the Golden Calf?
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« Reply #11 on: February 17, 2010, 08:14:10 PM »

Actually, Moses doesn't even need to be present in the icon at all... the main focus for my project is the Golden Calf.

LOL.  That Moses wasn't present was why there was a Golden Calf.

I can swear though that I've seen an icon of the event, from Mt. Athos IIRC.


Okay, fair enough. Wink

Let me know if you find that icon from Mt. Athos.
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