St. John lived in the 5th century... moreover everything he established in the West was borrowed from the Egyptian monks. So in the end, it's not a latin influence but an eastern influence on the Latins. Also St. Bede, who wrote about the tonsures of various monks, lived in the 8/9th centuries. I hope you remember that we were one Church once...
Though at that time we were united there was probably still a difference between us eastern and western in what the clergy wore...
Xenos has more than adequately addressed this topic and done the research for you. He has clearly demonstrated that the origin of the half-mantle is not at Latin. Just because Russian bishops of official Church stopped wearing the half-mantle while Latin bishops continue to wear it, although this is not the norm since Vatican II, does not in anyway make it Latin. Why do Orthodox do this to themselves? Why do we attribute things to the Latins and not do the research?
What you wrote above is really upsetting.
You are making an assumption which is false and not doing the research to even see if you are right! No, the Church for the first several hundred years was not marked by some East vs West split. There were conflicts and differences that emerged during the first millenia but many of these were within Western Europe due to the Germanic peoples. Pope St.Martin the Confessor and St.Maximos are a great example of how East and West were not split during the first millenia of the Church. The differences in Liturgical vestments is something that has evolved over time but even the differences in the Bishops Mitre and the wearing of mantles and half mantles is not an East vs. West split! The Armenian and Coptic Bishops have always worn Mitres that are near identical to the Latin Mitre and the wearing of the Mantle has been adequately shown to originate from early-Christian Monasticism in the Middle East.
Please don't take the Modern state of things and then impose it on history.
Please don't make fun of the clothing worn by St.Joseph of the Far East just because he was an Old Believer bishop that you don't agree with!
The man was so highly regarded that even the local MP bishop went to his funeral and made a prostration.
Stashko, that is how Russian priests and monks dressed before the reforms on Nikon. This was before any Western influences were brought into Russia.
How can that be possable when they got Christianity from costantinople and no Greek Clergy wore anything that resembled that....They must of been influenced by latins some how or by living close to them...
Xenos has already explained the Eastern origin of the half-mantle. Russian Christianity was strongly influenced by Monasticism and faithfully maintained absolute fidelity to the Jerusalem Typikon. The Old Believers still maintain absolute fidelity to the Jerusalem Typicon.
Please don't judge whose Orthodox based on appearances alone.
There have been alot of heretics who looked very Orthodox.
Please just do some reading and learn the history of the Church. Take the time to learn why the Old Believers left the MP so long ago and maybe you will start to see things in a new light?Unwarranted pot shot at recent hierarch of the Church removed from post by moderator. You could have made your point perfectly clear without naming any examples. -PtA