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Man dies after watching Avatar
« on: January 19, 2010, 04:59:26 PM »

More depressing news relating to this film.

http://www.news.com.au/entertainment/movies/man-died-after-watching-avatar/story-e6frfmvr-1225821333043



    * Man starts to feel unwell during movie
    * Dies 11 days later
    * "First death linked to Avatar"

A 42-year-old Taiwanese man with a history of high blood pressure has died of a stroke likely triggered by over-excitement from watching the blockbuster Avatar in 3D, a doctor says.

The man, identified only by his surname Kuo, started to feel unwell during the screening earlier this month in the northern city of Hsinchu and was taken to hospital.

Mr Kuo, who suffered from hypertension, was unconscious when he arrived at the Nan Men General Hospital and a scan showed that his brain was haemorrhaging, emergency room doctor Peng Chin-chih said today.

"It's likely that the over-excitement from watching the movie triggered his symptoms,'' the doctor said.

Mr Kuo died 11 days later from the brain haemorrhage, and the China Times newspaper said it was the first death linked to watching James Cameron's science-fiction epic Avatar.

Film blogging sites have reported complaints of headaches, dizziness, nausea and blurry eyesight from viewers of Avatar and other movies rich in 3D imagery.
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Re: Man dies after watching Avatar
« Reply #1 on: January 19, 2010, 05:00:59 PM »
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Re: Man dies after watching Avatar
« Reply #2 on: January 19, 2010, 05:07:22 PM »
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Re: Man dies after watching Avatar
« Reply #3 on: January 19, 2010, 05:13:42 PM »
Sounds to me like he died from complications of an already existing medical condition, not from coincidence.

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Re: Man dies after watching Avatar
« Reply #4 on: January 19, 2010, 05:25:28 PM »
To me like he died from complications of an already existing medical condition, not from coincidence.

True, but (in case it didn't happen) it may have been good to tell him, "Visual over-stimulation may lead to problems," a la those suffering from epilepsy.  If this isn't the case on a routine basis (i.e. if a regular movie, light-show, etc. would not have caused the same effect), then saying the movie directly contributed seems to be accurate - that is what he (Cameron) was going for anyway, pushing the visual envelope, so it shouldn't be surprising if we're discovering that people affected with existing conditions are having new problems when encountering this fresh experience.
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Re: Man dies after watching Avatar
« Reply #5 on: January 19, 2010, 05:43:08 PM »

More depressing news relating to this film.

http://www.news.com.au/entertainment/movies/man-died-after-watching-avatar/story-e6frfmvr-1225821333043



    * Man starts to feel unwell during movie
    * Dies 11 days later
    * "First death linked to Avatar"

A 42-year-old Taiwanese man with a history of high blood pressure has died of a stroke likely triggered by over-excitement from watching the blockbuster Avatar in 3D, a doctor says.

The man, identified only by his surname Kuo, started to feel unwell during the screening earlier this month in the northern city of Hsinchu and was taken to hospital.

Mr Kuo, who suffered from hypertension, was unconscious when he arrived at the Nan Men General Hospital and a scan showed that his brain was haemorrhaging, emergency room doctor Peng Chin-chih said today.

"It's likely that the over-excitement from watching the movie triggered his symptoms,'' the doctor said.

Mr Kuo died 11 days later from the brain haemorrhage, and the China Times newspaper said it was the first death linked to watching James Cameron's science-fiction epic Avatar.

Film blogging sites have reported complaints of headaches, dizziness, nausea and blurry eyesight from viewers of Avatar and other movies rich in 3D imagery.

I feel sorry for the guy, may the Lord have mercy on him.

The reality though as far as attributing his death to avatar seems to me to be baseless connection.  You have several million people watch any movie, or do any activity, there is bound to be one person who dies afterwards.

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Re: Man dies after watching Avatar
« Reply #6 on: January 19, 2010, 09:23:10 PM »
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Re: Man dies after watching Avatar
« Reply #7 on: January 19, 2010, 09:26:38 PM »


I feel sorry for the guy, may the Lord have mercy on him.

The reality though as far as attributing his death to avatar seems to me to be baseless connection.  You have several million people watch any movie, or do any activity, there is bound to be one person who dies afterwards.

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Re: Man dies after watching Avatar
« Reply #8 on: January 19, 2010, 09:33:13 PM »
I hope no one ever dies during one of my sermons!  :o
They can't be that boring, surely....
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« Reply #9 on: January 19, 2010, 10:41:15 PM »
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Re: Man dies after watching Avatar
« Reply #10 on: January 19, 2010, 11:29:59 PM »
I hope no one ever dies during one of my sermons!  :o
They can't be that boring, surely....
No, given the OP I think Fr. Anastasios is implying that his sermons are the exact OPPOSITE of boring. In which case, I really want to visit your parish, Father!

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Re: Man dies after watching Avatar
« Reply #11 on: January 19, 2010, 11:43:36 PM »
I hope no one ever dies during one of my sermons!  :o
They can't be that boring, surely....

If they're about the calendar, then they just might be...  ;)

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Re: Man dies after watching Avatar
« Reply #12 on: January 20, 2010, 07:52:50 PM »
Ha. I have actually never given a sermon about the Church Calendar issue, nor do I plan to. Sermons are really supposed to be about the Gospel and Epistle readings. Topical sermons are kind of sketchy in my mind unless they are outside of the liturgy.  I will often incorporate something else in if appropriate but that is as a second thought and not as the main point of any of my sermons. I did actually give a sermon that was partially against militant vegetarianism once though. It just sort of happened.
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Re: Man dies after watching Avatar
« Reply #13 on: January 20, 2010, 07:55:56 PM »
I will have to say that watching Avatar made me die a little inside.  ;)
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Re: Man dies after watching Avatar
« Reply #14 on: January 20, 2010, 08:26:09 PM »

I did actually give a sermon that was partially against militant vegetarianism once though. It just sort of happened.

What is meant by "militant vegetarianism"?
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« Reply #15 on: January 20, 2010, 08:33:45 PM »

I did actually give a sermon that was partially against militant vegetarianism once though. It just sort of happened.

What is meant by "militant vegetarianism"?

Advocating that eating meat is wrong per se* and trying to encourage others to do so, sometimes by scare tactics.

(* as opposed to refraining from eating meat out of concern for the way meat is processed in the modern world or out of a personal health choice that is not idealogical).
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Re: Man dies after watching Avatar
« Reply #16 on: January 20, 2010, 08:36:30 PM »
I hope no one ever dies during one of my sermons!  :o
They can't be that boring, surely....

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Re: Man dies after watching Avatar
« Reply #17 on: January 20, 2010, 09:02:11 PM »

I did actually give a sermon that was partially against militant vegetarianism once though. It just sort of happened.

What is meant by "militant vegetarianism"?

Advocating that eating meat is wrong per se* and trying to encourage others to do so, sometimes by scare tactics.

(* as opposed to refraining from eating meat out of concern for the way meat is processed in the modern world or out of a personal health choice that is not idealogical).

Oh, ok. I tend to think that it is wrong to eat meat if it is not out of necessity, i.e. when one's nutritional needs cannot be met by any other source.
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Re: Man dies after watching Avatar
« Reply #18 on: January 20, 2010, 10:04:06 PM »
Ha. I have actually never given a sermon about the Church Calendar issue, nor do I plan to. Sermons are really supposed to be about the Gospel and Epistle readings. Topical sermons are kind of sketchy in my mind unless they are outside of the liturgy.  I will often incorporate something else in if appropriate but that is as a second thought and not as the main point of any of my sermons. I did actually give a sermon that was partially against militant vegetarianism once though. It just sort of happened.

Its funny about sermons. I like how the priest at the Romanian church in my city does his sermons. Since the building is pretty small, he kind of walks between where the faithful are and he will ask people questions during the service such as for example (even though its not a direct quote), "what was it that Christ was doing while he was there?" or "why are we fasting?" or something like that and these are not rhetorical questions but he will look for someone to answer it to make sure they know the teachings of the Faith. People pay attention when he preaches because he might call on them to answer haha. I think this might be a Romanian thing since watching videos of Elder Cleopa, he seems to do something similar.

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Re: Man dies after watching Avatar
« Reply #19 on: January 21, 2010, 12:17:47 AM »
Ha. I have actually never given a sermon about the Church Calendar issue, nor do I plan to. Sermons are really supposed to be about the Gospel and Epistle readings. Topical sermons are kind of sketchy in my mind unless they are outside of the liturgy.  I will often incorporate something else in if appropriate but that is as a second thought and not as the main point of any of my sermons. I did actually give a sermon that was partially against militant vegetarianism once though. It just sort of happened.

Its funny about sermons. I like how the priest at the Romanian church in my city does his sermons. Since the building is pretty small, he kind of walks between where the faithful are and he will ask people questions during the service such as for example (even though its not a direct quote), "what was it that Christ was doing while he was there?" or "why are we fasting?" or something like that and these are not rhetorical questions but he will look for someone to answer it to make sure they know the teachings of the Faith. People pay attention when he preaches because he might call on them to answer haha. I think this might be a Romanian thing since watching videos of Elder Cleopa, he seems to do something similar.

I like that!  Very much how I imagine Jesus teaching. 
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Re: Man dies after watching Avatar
« Reply #20 on: January 21, 2010, 05:07:05 PM »
Ha. I have actually never given a sermon about the Church Calendar issue, nor do I plan to. Sermons are really supposed to be about the Gospel and Epistle readings. Topical sermons are kind of sketchy in my mind unless they are outside of the liturgy.  I will often incorporate something else in if appropriate but that is as a second thought and not as the main point of any of my sermons. I did actually give a sermon that was partially against militant vegetarianism once though. It just sort of happened.

Its funny about sermons. I like how the priest at the Romanian church in my city does his sermons. Since the building is pretty small, he kind of walks between where the faithful are and he will ask people questions during the service such as for example (even though its not a direct quote), "what was it that Christ was doing while he was there?" or "why are we fasting?" or something like that and these are not rhetorical questions but he will look for someone to answer it to make sure they know the teachings of the Faith. People pay attention when he preaches because he might call on them to answer haha. I think this might be a Romanian thing since watching videos of Elder Cleopa, he seems to do something similar.

That sounds sort of like the "dialogue" sermons that one hears from time to time at various, liberal RC churches.

  I'm not against what this priest was trying to do but stuff like that can make some people more then a little squeamish and uncomfortable on a Sunday morning.
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Re: Man dies after watching Avatar
« Reply #21 on: January 24, 2010, 03:18:54 AM »
I'm not against what this priest was trying to do but stuff like that can make some people more then a little squeamish and uncomfortable on a Sunday morning.

Its a pretty small and tight nit community and from what I've seen, the people are always eager when he asks. I think it works in a small church but if my priest did that in my church which is pretty large, I don't think it would work out.