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« on: January 16, 2010, 05:50:54 PM »

I used to be Protestant and I have recently converted over to Orthodoxy (Smartest move I EVER made) and I am wondering. I do support some Protestant charities such as Gospel for Asia and their adopt a child program. I also support the IOCC when I am able. I am thinking about pulling my support from the Protestant charities and putting it towards the IOCC. Wanted your guys thoughts or opinions.

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« Reply #1 on: January 16, 2010, 05:54:31 PM »

Support the efforts of the true Church.
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« Reply #2 on: January 16, 2010, 06:29:05 PM »

I used to be Protestant and I have recently converted over to Orthodoxy (Smartest move I EVER made) and I am wondering. I do support some Protestant charities such as Gospel for Asia and their adopt a child program. I also support the IOCC when I am able. I am thinking about pulling my support from the Protestant charities and putting it towards the IOCC. Wanted your guys thoughts or opinions.


If you have "adopted" a child, I'd stick with them.  Otherwise, yes transfer it to IOCC.

In general, unless it is specifically geared only to preaching, or tied intrinsically to it, support of Protestant charities for humaritarian aid is fine.  But then, when I became Orthodox, we didn't have IOCC.
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« Reply #3 on: January 16, 2010, 06:33:21 PM »

It kinda bothers me supporting Prot charities being Orthodox..... I know the IOCC also has adopt a child program if I remember correctly....
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« Reply #4 on: January 16, 2010, 06:35:33 PM »

Support humanity, regardless if the charity is Protestant, Roman Catholic, Orthodox, or secular.
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« Reply #5 on: January 29, 2010, 04:32:43 PM »

Support humanity, regardless if the charity is Protestant, Roman Catholic, Orthodox, or secular.
I would tend to agree, except that I know from experience that many Protestant charities tie preaching in with their charitable work. I would rather not support the preaching of Protestant Christianity. But yes, if someone is doing charitable work without any preaching, then it doesn't matter who that person is or what they believe--support them. Then you can support Orthodox missionaries for the spiritual needs of people around the world. Our missions work is certainly lacking in both personnel and funding. Anything you can give will help.
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« Reply #6 on: January 29, 2010, 04:41:59 PM »


I would caution about donating via non-Orthodox charities.  Many Protestants use charity as a tool for conversion.  You would be amazed how happily people will join the Baptist church because they gave them a meal and a free Bible.

I would stick with known Orthodox charities - either the IOCC, your own consistory (jurisdictional) charities, or from your own church.

I certainly would not want my effort to follow Christ's instructions to cloth and feed the needy, to be an instrument that will in fact pull them away from the True Church and Him.
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« Reply #7 on: January 29, 2010, 04:52:19 PM »

except that I know from experience that many Protestant charities tie preaching in with their charitable work.
You have to love when strings are attached like that.  That is why I just like to stick with Medecins Sans Frontieres.
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« Reply #8 on: January 29, 2010, 04:55:49 PM »

except that I know from experience that many Protestant charities tie preaching in with their charitable work.
You have to love when strings are attached like that.  That is why I just like to stick with Medecins Sans Frontieres.
That's a great charity. It's great to see highly qualified doctors who could be making a lot of money use their talents to benefit people who can't pay.
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« Reply #9 on: January 29, 2010, 05:02:37 PM »

You have to love when strings are attached like that.  That is why I just like to stick with Medecins Sans Frontieres.
That's a great charity. It's great to see highly qualified doctors who could be making a lot of money use their talents to benefit people who can't pay.
Definitely.  I really would like to see Ecoles Sans Frontieres expand as much as MSF did too. 
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« Reply #10 on: January 30, 2010, 08:28:49 PM »

I cannot with a clear conscience support non Orthodox ministries that tie preaching in with their humanitarian aid. I am going to be supporting the IOCC and the OCMC. I just can't with a clear conscience continue to support non Orthodox charities... Thanks for your input. Much appreciated!!
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« Reply #11 on: January 31, 2010, 01:34:26 AM »


I would caution about donating via non-Orthodox charities.  Many Protestants use charity as a tool for conversion.  You would be amazed how happily people will join the Baptist church because they gave them a meal and a free Bible.

This kind of tactic is being used against Orthodox Christians in the United States. As governor of Alaska, Sarah Palin supported it:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wB5qeZkSkKQ
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« Reply #12 on: March 22, 2010, 07:45:46 AM »

I used to be Protestant and I have recently converted over to Orthodoxy (Smartest move I EVER made) and I am wondering. I do support some Protestant charities such as Gospel for Asia and their adopt a child program. I also support the IOCC when I am able. I am thinking about pulling my support from the Protestant charities and putting it towards the IOCC. Wanted your guys thoughts or opinions.



Why put money into the hands of the heretics? Money is power. Remember,,,Jesus told his disciples to feed my sheep. He was speaking of teaching them the food of inner growth, prayer, deification. He was not speaking of opening up food kitchens. Food kitchens and all the protestant innovations are just that,,,gimmicks because they have no knowledge of the True Faith.
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« Reply #13 on: March 22, 2010, 09:20:12 AM »

I used to be Protestant and I have recently converted over to Orthodoxy (Smartest move I EVER made) and I am wondering. I do support some Protestant charities such as Gospel for Asia and their adopt a child program.

I saw you already said you would be supporting IOCC and OCMC. If you are particularly interested in supporting orphans in North America, then consider donating to St. Innocent Orphanage: http://projectmexico.org/
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« Reply #14 on: March 22, 2010, 01:42:04 PM »

I think supporting reputable secular charities alongside Orthodox charities can help account for a comprehensive approach as one sees fit. For ex. the Red Cross can easily be supported on a local, national, & worldwide basis. On a local basis, I still support a food pantry that is run by the Methodist/Presbyterian church I attended in my youth. I would also like to include FOCUS N.A. as a good Orthodox charity www.focusnorthamerica.org/
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« Reply #15 on: March 22, 2010, 04:54:30 PM »

I used to be Protestant and I have recently converted over to Orthodoxy (Smartest move I EVER made) and I am wondering. I do support some Protestant charities such as Gospel for Asia and their adopt a child program. I also support the IOCC when I am able. I am thinking about pulling my support from the Protestant charities and putting it towards the IOCC. Wanted your guys thoughts or opinions.

Why put money into the hands of the heretics? Money is power. Remember,,,Jesus told his disciples to feed my sheep. He was speaking of teaching them the food of inner growth, prayer, deification. He was not speaking of opening up food kitchens. Food kitchens and all the protestant innovations are just that,,,gimmicks because they have no knowledge of the True Faith.
Our Lord also said, "Woe to you, for I was hungry and you did not feed Me; I was thirsty and you gave Me nothing to drink; I was naked and you did not clothe Me." Seems He cares about the physical needs of His sheep as much as their spiritual needs.
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« Reply #16 on: March 22, 2010, 05:29:09 PM »

Support humanity, regardless if the charity is Protestant, Roman Catholic, Orthodox, or secular.

 While this has a Walton mountain 'feel good' ring to it, everyone has an agenda.  Can't support 'em all.  Wink
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« Reply #17 on: March 22, 2010, 07:40:04 PM »

While this has a Walton mountain 'feel good' ring to it, everyone has an agenda.  Can't support 'em all.  Wink

Then go secular Wink
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« Reply #18 on: March 22, 2010, 07:56:14 PM »

I don't support either.
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« Reply #19 on: March 22, 2010, 08:25:52 PM »

I used to be Protestant and I have recently converted over to Orthodoxy (Smartest move I EVER made) and I am wondering. I do support some Protestant charities such as Gospel for Asia and their adopt a child program. I also support the IOCC when I am able. I am thinking about pulling my support from the Protestant charities and putting it towards the IOCC. Wanted your guys thoughts or opinions.



Why put money into the hands of the heretics? Money is power. Remember,,,Jesus told his disciples to feed my sheep. He was speaking of teaching them the food of inner growth, prayer, deification. He was not speaking of opening up food kitchens. Food kitchens and all the protestant innovations are just that,,,gimmicks because they have no knowledge of the True Faith.

"What does it profit, my brethren, if someone says he has faith but does not have works? Can faith save him? If a brother or sister is naked and destitute of daily food, and one of you says to them, "Depart in peace, be warmed and filled," but you do not give them the things which are needed for the body, what does it profit? Thus also faith by itself, if it does not have works, is dead."

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If you've ever been starving and penniless and all alone in the world, I highly doubt you'd call food kitchens "gimmicks"...
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« Reply #20 on: March 23, 2010, 01:20:46 AM »

If I had the money to give, I'd only be giving it to Orthodox organizations.  I also do not typically give money if I attend a non-Orthodox service (unless it is my former home that was my spiritual home for well over 10 years...)
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