I see that much people of the forum were once in time catholics. What can I say about that?, that they were bad catholics, bad enough to abandon the truth faith, many catholics have brought here quotations from many eastern father exalting the church of Rome, and yet, the former catholics are more reckless to turn back to catholicism.
Now, it is also interesting, that if an eventual union between orthodoxy and catholicism, the greatest opponents are those who went out of Catholicism. Pity to see that the converted from Catholicism to orthodoxy are not but the waste of Catholicism, those who never were real catholics, those who never loved their church, and those who were more attracted to ritualistic than to righteousness.
We all know that the sin of Adam was his ego, and many here clime that pope is the product of the same ego, one has to be really idiot to conclude such a thing, one has to be blind by its own ego to see that in the papacy as an institution the ruling is ego. Don’t you see that pope is nothing but a man who was elected by his brothers? Was his egotistical desire the cause of his reaching there? Is his place something that he can heir to his sons? What sons? Papacy is a service, not more, from one who has chosen to give his life to God in the service of his brothers. He will never rest until die.
The Catholicism is the truth faith, the one of those that have understood that the submission of the ego to authority is the real way that Adam never understood. The independency of churches in east, the so called autocephalies, are not but the result of the nationalistic egocentricity of a full people, that has not reach to understand the meaning of the words and desires of our Lord Jesus. May all be one.
Even more, patriarchates are so quoted by theirs flocks that they are democracies, Is God democratic? Once more we see that hellenistic elements are introduced in orthodoxy as the faith of those who were hellenized . It is truth that in the beginning when apostles chose a substitute for Jude, they ask to the members gathered to present three candidates and Holy Spirit would decide. But Who was leading this event? St Peter.
We also see that the council of Jerusalem was discussing about circumcision of gentile, and then after much discussion St Peter took the word and spoke in his name and the name of the Holy Spirit. Then every body agree with him, and obeyed.
Of course there were many who disagree driven by their ego, their selfishness, and then many formed separated communities, apostles knew of them and condemned them. Yet the Lord gave his word to Peter, His Church (the church of the Lord entrusted to Peter) will never fail, will never fall to hell.
We, brothers, the Catholic Church that you have left, is that church founded on the apostles, St Peter and St Paul and is really the result of the union of two churches, The one of Rome, founded by St Peter and St Paul, and the church of Jerusalem, driven as a slave church among the jews taken to Rome by Titus in 70 AD after the predicted destruction of Jerusalem.
We catholics understand that we are the focus of many attacks from all around because of our testimony of our Lord. We are no more than our master, we testify to one who was crucified.
Those who have left Catholicism are followers of their ego, their own desires of intellectual satisfaction. No humbleness in them. No desire of submission to the will of God in them. The same egocentricity that Luther tracked and that all the sects have followed. In fact, we can say that Luther was invited by orthodoxy to meet them, as the proof of the share of the same feeling of nationalistic egocentricity.
Nationalistic egocentricity is the reason of the lack of submission of Moscow patriarchate to Constantinople patriarchate in the diaspora communities. So yet orthodoxy became independent of Catholicism, they haven’t reached a point of managerial unity, of a unified testimony, of a unified church in diaspora.
Finally, Can we say that egocentric nationalism is the way that our Lord Jesus desired by, “May all be one”? Not at all, and yet tht is the fundament of administration in orthodoxy.