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Is it proper for an Orthodox Christian to get a tattoo?

It's fine, nothing wrong with it.
46 (22.5%)
They can if they want, but I wouldn't.
30 (14.7%)
Only in some circumstances.
28 (13.7%)
I don't think it's proper, no.
40 (19.6%)
It is absolutely, positively sinful!
16 (7.8%)
I'm not sure.
40 (19.6%)
None of the above.
4 (2%)

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Re: Orthodox Christians and Tattoos
« Reply #630 on: September 02, 2018, 06:42:06 PM »
Hmmm, "NOUS" over the heart sounds like an idea.  And the word is the roots of a tree, guarded by two cherubim with flaming swords.

Just make sure you don't ever develop gynecomastia. The Cherubim might crash into each other.
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Re: Orthodox Christians and Tattoos
« Reply #631 on: September 02, 2018, 06:48:17 PM »
Hmmm, "NOUS" over the heart sounds like an idea.  And the word is the roots of a tree, guarded by two cherubim with flaming swords.

Just make sure you don't ever develop gynecomastia. The Cherubim might crash into each other.

No one can make sure of that.  In the event it does happen, I would have the skin cut out and preserved.
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https://www.cvltnation.com/dead-skin-living-art-the-museum-of-tattooed-skin/
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Re: Orthodox Christians and Tattoos
« Reply #632 on: September 10, 2018, 11:48:22 PM »
Happy shall he be, that shall take and dash thy little ones against the rock. Alleluia.

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Re: Orthodox Christians and Tattoos
« Reply #633 on: September 13, 2018, 11:48:36 PM »
Also thinking of the Holy Face icon on the top of my right hand and the Theotokos of Kazan on my left hand.  I'll always have icons for prayer.
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Re: Orthodox Christians and Tattoos
« Reply #634 on: September 14, 2018, 07:47:56 AM »
Not wanting to soung judgemental, but in general I find tattoos a narcissistic, self referential and attention seeking practice that doesn't add too much to someone's life than lifelong mark on the skin, and I find quite concerning how tattoos are becoming so widespread, accepted and even incentivated in several christian circles (not orthodox per se, protestant and catholic too).

I find coptic tattoos from the Razzouk family kinda cool tho.

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Re: Orthodox Christians and Tattoos
« Reply #635 on: September 14, 2018, 08:11:56 AM »
Lol, you didn't want to, but you did.
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Re: Orthodox Christians and Tattoos
« Reply #636 on: September 17, 2018, 12:03:18 AM »
Not made by hands, but a needle.

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Re: Orthodox Christians and Tattoos
« Reply #637 on: September 17, 2018, 12:07:50 AM »
Not made by hands, but a needle.



Ever read Parker's Back by Flannery O'Connor?
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Re: Orthodox Christians and Tattoos
« Reply #638 on: September 17, 2018, 12:09:16 AM »
Not made by hands, but a needle.



Ever read Parker's Back by Flannery O'Connor?
Yup.
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Re: Orthodox Christians and Tattoos
« Reply #639 on: September 17, 2018, 03:21:15 AM »
Not made by hands, but a needle.



What's that strange shape on Jesus Christ's forehead the tattoo would look better without it
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Re: Orthodox Christians and Tattoos
« Reply #640 on: September 17, 2018, 01:31:28 PM »
Not made by hands, but a needle.



What's that strange shape on Jesus Christ's forehead the tattoo would look better without it

So would the body.

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Re: Orthodox Christians and Tattoos
« Reply #641 on: October 15, 2018, 05:07:55 PM »
Thinkin about getting the ark of salvation across my upper back



with all the heretics throughout history spread across my mid-back (I have substantial room available)

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Re: Orthodox Christians and Tattoos
« Reply #642 on: October 15, 2018, 05:10:13 PM »
Full color?  That would be an amazing piece.  Don't be alarmed if an old calendarist venerates your back.
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Re: Orthodox Christians and Tattoos
« Reply #643 on: October 15, 2018, 05:26:24 PM »
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Re: Orthodox Christians and Tattoos
« Reply #644 on: October 15, 2018, 07:42:05 PM »
This is a really cool Orthodox tattoo company:

https://www.facebook.com/RazzoukInk/


From their page:

FOR MORE THAN 700 YEARS, tattooing has been the profession of countless generations of Razzouk family members. This Coptic Christian family originated in Egypt but in the eighteenth century an ancestor named Jersuis, a Coptic priest, brought the art he had learned from his forefathers to Palestine and later Jerusalem about 1750.

In the Coptic and other Eastern Christian communities (Ethiopian, Armenian, Syrian, Maronite, Kildanian, etc.), tattooing has long functioned to mark one’s pilgrimage to the Holy Land, among other things. For example, a small cross placed on the inside of the wrist granted religious pilgrims access to churches and other sacred places. Virgin girls often chose Annunciation designs to increase their chances of bearing children, and in this context these designs worked as fertility symbols rather than devotional marks. But the act of tattooing oneself also brought one closer to God; it was an outpouring of blood and could be identified with the sufferings of Christ on the Cross.

The current custodian of the art and the successor of the family tradition is Wassim Razzouk , the 27th generation.



Here's some of their work:














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Re: Orthodox Christians and Tattoos
« Reply #645 on: October 15, 2018, 07:52:20 PM »
It sure is.
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Re: Orthodox Christians and Tattoos
« Reply #646 on: October 16, 2018, 08:48:01 AM »
Going to get knuckle tattoos.  "SOUL" on the right and "BODY" on the left.

You are not far from the kingdom of God!

It will help with pre-communion prayers and as a reminder to cross my arms right over left when going to receive.

Also, when we get a blessing and kiss the hand of the clergyman, and put our right hand over our left, these tats would serve as an acknowledgement that our soul is within our body, refuting with brilliant simplicty the new-age-y idea of the soul floating around willy nilly. I had thought that my next tattoo would be the word "NOUS" placed at the base of my neck, but you have me rethinking things!

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Re: Orthodox Christians and Tattoos
« Reply #647 on: October 16, 2018, 11:51:30 AM »
The chain for my cross broke.  I feel naked without it.  If only I had a cross tattooed on my chest surrounded by "Let God Arise..." around it.  Then I would feel better.
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